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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    so he died because his heart stopped beating.
    but what caused the heart to stop beating in the first place?

    sorry, folks.
    my pet peeve...
    Could say contributory ang COVID since he had to be intubated... which means his oxygen level dropped.


    Oriental Mindoro 2nd District Representative Alfonso Umali Jr confirmed in a DZBB interview on Thursday that his brother died of cardiac arrest that morning, but the former congressman also had late-stage liver cancer and had a bout with COVID-19.

    Umali said his brother had a medical checkup before, which revealed that he had fatty liver, but follow-up checkups had to be put on hold because of the pandemic.

    Umali said that when Rey finally had another checkup on December 12, he tested positive for COVID-19, and was found to have Stage 3 liver cancer.

    “Noong December 12, nagpa-checkup siya, doon nakita na may COVID na siya. Tapos nakita na may Stage 3 cancer siya. Tapos ilang days lang na-aggravate naging Stage 4 liver cancer,” Umali said.

    (He had a checkup on December 12, and that's when he tested positive for COVID. It was also discovered that he had Stage 3 cancer. Then after a few days, his condition was aggravated, and he had Stage 4 liver cancer.)

    He said the former congressman was admitted to the intensive care unit (ICU) on December 21, and was intubated on December 26.


    “Kahapon, nakakakita ng bacteria sa kanyang liver. Ngayong umaga, bumaba na ang dugo niya tapos nag-cardiac arrest kaninang umaga,” he added.

    (Bacteria was detected in his liver yesterday. This morning, his blood [pressure] dropped then he went into cardiac arrest.)

    During his last term in Congress, he was chairman of the House committee on justice. He led the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Maria Lourdes Sereno in 2017, as well as the House probe into the alleged drug links of Senator Leila de Lima in 2016. – Rappler.com

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    #19982
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Could say contributory ang COVID since he had to be intubated... which means his oxygen level dropped.
    hard to say.
    the information is sketchy, and one is sorely tempted to fill in the blanks.
    intubation has been a regular procedure even before covid. there are many reasons for intubation. covid just happens to be a popular suspect nowadays.

    but the way the information are presented and interpreted,
    one is tempted to say that each condition contributed to the final exit.
    so, "contributory" does appear acceptable.

    an autopsy may decide to lean on one particular entity over the others, as the most likely major contributor to demise.
    Last edited by dr. d; January 8th, 2021 at 12:32 PM.

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    #19983
    meron political angle re blaming or not blaming covid for the deaths

    sinabi kasi ng media namatay sa cardiac arrest

    tumataas ang kilay ng mga galit sa china

    baket di sinabi ng media namatay sa covid directly?

    meron ba nag kokontrol sa media i-downplay ang cause of death?

    yan ang point ng mga galit sa china

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    #19984
    habang atat na atat mga tao dito para sa Pfizer vaccine...

    etong mga to tinatanggihan pa haha


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    #19985
    Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine appears effective against mutation in new coronavirus variants– study Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine appears effective against mutation in new coronavirus variants– study | ABS-CBN News
    Last edited by 111prez; January 8th, 2021 at 04:26 PM.

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    #19986
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    habang atat na atat mga tao dito para sa Pfizer vaccine...

    etong mga to tinatanggihan pa haha

    Magiging ganyan rin cguro tayo dito pag nauna dumating yung Chinese Vaccine.
    Walang gusto magpabakuna sa China Vaccines.
    Gusto yung mga Western Vaccines.

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    #19987
    Indonesia surges seem to be out of control...


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    #19988
    At a Malaysian makeshift hospital outside Jakarta.



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    #19989
    nit-picking,
    i think the malaysian makeshift hospital, has to be outside of jakarta.
    apologies.
    couldn't resist.

    seriously,
    malaysia sent help to neighbor indonesia?
    Last edited by dr. d; January 8th, 2021 at 10:12 PM.

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    #19990
    so malaysia is now assisting in caring for and reigning in covid 19 infectees in jakarta, indonesia? that's mighty good of them.

    i guess it's just proper to help their neighbor especially since they are kindred spirits in religious beliefs.

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    #19992
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    nit-picking,
    i think the malaysian makeshift hospital, has to be outside of jakarta.
    apologies.
    couldn't resist.

    seriously,
    malaysia sent help to neighbor indonesia?
    Sorry, my bad. It's outside Kuala Lumpur. Not Jakarta. Mixed up my asian capitals. Hehehe

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    #19993
    US 300,000 New Covid-19 Cases In One Day Is Highest Single-Day Total – Deadline

    The U.S. recorded more than 4,000 daily Covid-19 deaths for the first time Thursday, the highest one-day total since the pandemic began.
    Covid live updates: U.K. approves Moderna vaccine, U.S. records over 4,000 deaths in a day
    Last edited by Monseratto; January 9th, 2021 at 11:07 AM.

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    #19994
    COVID-19 virus variants may lead to false negative results with some molecular tests: FDA - CNA


    REUTERS: The US drugs regulator said on Friday (Jan 8) genetic variants of COVID-19, including the one found in the UK, could lead to false negative results from some molecular COVID-19 tests, but the risk of the mutations affecting overall testing accuracy is low.

    The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said it has alerted lab staff and healthcare providers to the possible false negative results and has asked them to consider such results in combination with clinical observations, and use a different test if COVID-19 is still suspected.

    The more contagious variant of COVID-19 that has swept through the United Kingdom has been reported in at least five US states, National Institutes of Health Director Francis Collins said this week.

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    #19995
    Now there is a USA variant of the Wuhan virus...


    White House coronavirus task force warns of 'aggressive community spread' and possible 'USA variant' - CNNPolitics


    The US may have its own version of a more transmissible coronavirus and that might be helping fuel the already aggressive spread of the virus, the White House coronavirus task force said in its latest report to states this week.

    Reports sent by the task force to states dated January 3 warned of the possibility of a "USA variant" of Covid-19.
    "This fall/winter surge has been at nearly twice the rate of rise of cases as the spring and summer surges. This acceleration suggests there may be a USA variant that has evolved here, in addition to the UK variant that is already spreading in our communities and may be 50% more transmissible," reports obtained by CNN said, calling for "aggressive mitigation ... to match a much more aggressive virus."

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    #19996

    S gene tarket failure

    hindi madetect ng PCR ang UK variant dahil meron deletion


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    #19998
    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    i can see it now...

    "the Lord will protect us."
    but then, they get infected, nonetheless.
    "Lord, why did you not protect us?"
    and He answers, "ANUKABAH! I sent you my finest scientists! pinakinggan ba nyo!"

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    #19999
    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    as if pa forward lang ang galawan ng virus no? LOL
    nag social distancing pa sila

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    I completed the 9 day novena mass online. Yung kanina 4:30 am ang mass. I am so groggy from lack of sleep but I asked for the normal test results of my fat lab.

    I also watch the 12:15 pm mass daily, I noticed now nasa 600+ lang nanonood, normally that is never below 1k+,karamihan kaya around the quiapo area?

    Somehow I feel safer as long as 100% of the people around me are wearing their face masks properly.

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