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View Poll Results: Will you vote for the administration bet, Gibo?

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    #101
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    hmmm difficult to reconcile this with the success of olongapo and attitude of its locals. tsk tsk
    Comparing Olongapo with the Philippines is like putting a square peg in a round hole. It doesn't match. Kung success story din lang e di si duterte na lang ang gawin nating presidente. Successful talaga!

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    #102
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Comparing Olongapo with the Philippines is like putting a square peg in a round hole. It doesn't match. Kung success story din lang e di si duterte na lang ang gawin nating presidente. Successful talaga!
    ... hehehe kaso di siya tumatakbo eh.

    btw, no one's comparing Gapo with the whole of Phils. Err... at least, not me. Just saying that it's a big question mark to have a successful area of responsibility with its leader lacking in the basic leadership traits. That is "like putting a square peg in a round hole."

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    #103
    Why focus always with Gapo. Red Cross and the Tourism Dept. are National in Scope. Poor Noynoy he can't even be a good servant to his district.

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    #104
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Comparing Olongapo with the Philippines is like putting a square peg in a round hole. It doesn't match. Kung success story din lang e di si duterte na lang ang gawin nating presidente. Successful talaga!
    From running Davao kaya niya kaya maging president ng bansa?

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    #105
    Quote Originally Posted by mikmik316 View Post
    Why focus always with Gapo. Red Cross and the Tourism Dept. are National in Scope. Poor Noynoy he can't even be a good servant to his district.
    amen. and don't talk about charm and inspiration. because those are ninoy's and cory's. and values? nah. did even have a big responsibility to show his true values. oops! wrong thread.

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    #106
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    The problem with your premise is you're making a false assumption that a person is incompetent. Everyone is competent, it is his values that would be determinative of whether he or she would do good for the country. Gibo has no strong values that would satisfy me as a voter because he himself betrayed the party that led him to the corridors of power. He is a subtle power grabber no different from GMA. As long as opportunity would give him the upperhand, he would abandon those who helped him.
    Erap competent? Yes, he does have competence in so many fields of endeavor, but competencies necessary as president of a republic such as ours, I don't think so. He is a very competent actor (by Philippine standard) maybe competent enough as small town mayor. But unless you find his lamentable 2 year term as President as demonstrative of competence for the highest position in the land, he is obviously not.

    We as a nation deserve and require so much more. Don't settle for less or even the least competent (to follow your logic that all are competent) simply because the guy is charming or is of good pedigree. We're not voting for PBB or choosing a show dog.

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    #107
    Quote Originally Posted by 4wrider View Post
    Erap competent? Yes, he does have competence in so many fields of endeavor, but competencies necessary as president of a republic such as ours, I don't think so. He is a very competent actor (by Philippine standard) maybe competent enough as small town mayor. But unless you find his lamentable 2 year term as President as demonstrative of competence for the highest position in the land, he is obviously not.

    We as a nation deserve and require so much more. Don't settle for less or even the least competent (to follow your logic that all are competent) simply because the guy is charming or is of good pedigree. We're not voting for PBB or choosing a show dog.
    Competence is a relative term. A leader who may be successful in Olongapo or Subic will not necessarily succeed in leading 80 million people. GMA is competent as well as Marcos. But where do you put in the equation the longing of the Filipinos for justice and freedom. hence, in practical terms, one should be guided by his values and sense of being simple and one who can touch the hearts of every citizen across economic status.

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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Competence is a relative term. A leader who may be successful in Olongapo or Subic will not necessarily succeed in leading 80 million people.
    so... a congressman who hasn't done much in his designated district can succeed in leading 80 million people?

    But where do you put in the equation the longing of the Filipinos for justice and freedom.
    supreme court?

    1. Appoint the Cabinet and other executive officials as well as ambassadors and officers of the Armed Forces;
    2. Control all executive departments;
    3. Command the Armed Forces and when necessary call them out to supress lawless violence;
    4. Grant reprieves and commutations;
    5. Submit to Congress the Budget; and
    6. Contract or guarantee foreign loans.
    don't see any judicial functions there
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    so... a congressman who hasn't done much in his designated district can succeed in leading 80 million people?


    supreme court?


    don't see any judicial functions there
    Ha ha ha. It seems you have been living all your life in the comfort of your airconditioned room. You thought that the word justice is always equivalent to supreme court. Well, there are people who are poor and who needs work, that my dear is one aspect called social justice. Giving more to those who have less. There is also justice in education when most of the kids are not given the proper educational skills in elementary and high school to make them productive members of society. There is also labor justice when working class should receive the minimum living wage and not just minimum wage. Writing and reading are two different activities. It is necessary to enhance the second one so that we can decide intelligently and not write meaningless issues and thus waste not our time.

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    #110
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    stuff
    so were any of these addressed with actual results by Noynoy?

    It is necessary to enhance the second one so that we can decide intelligently and not write meaningless issues and thus waste not our time.
    Дa, agreed. glad you mentioned that because you should realize this is a thread about Gibo
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #111
    Quote Originally Posted by safeorigin View Post
    so were any of these addressed with actual results by Noynoy?


    Дa, agreed. glad you mentioned that because you should realize this is a thread about Gibo
    You're asking about Noynoy in a Gibo thread? hey admins, better whip the dear!

    That portion you emphasized is an unsolicited advice that you should read before you speak or write. That is why we were given two eyes and to use only one hand while writing. You should read because information is power. So I plead, please read my dear before you write.

    Opps by the way, what happened to the justice that you mentioned?

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    #112
    I did say supreme court right?
    Gibo did mention that judicial functions are reserve there.
    phase 1 check
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    ... hehehe kaso di siya tumatakbo eh.

    btw, no one's comparing Gapo with the whole of Phils. Err... at least, not me. Just saying that it's a big question mark to have a successful area of responsibility with its leader lacking in the basic leadership traits. That is "like putting a square peg in a round hole."
    Leadership is only as good as the governed who would be willing to follow him. Insisting that your candidate is an effective leader will only matter if he wins the election which is a far cry from what is happening right now. Ergo, he is not an effective leader because the people do not want him to lead them. You're right, he is like a square peg in a round hole.

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    #114
    Quote Originally Posted by 4wrider View Post
    Erap competent? Yes, he does have competence in so many fields of endeavor, but competencies necessary as president of a republic such as ours, I don't think so. He is a very competent actor (by Philippine standard) maybe competent enough as small town mayor. But unless you find his lamentable 2 year term as President as demonstrative of competence for the highest position in the land, he is obviously not.

    We as a nation deserve and require so much more. Don't settle for less or even the least competent (to follow your logic that all are competent) simply because the guy is charming or is of good pedigree. We're not voting for PBB or choosing a show dog.
    a competent person is someone who has went from the most powerful man to the most humiliated man then still manage to emerge as a respectable figure in society.

    yan si erap no other leader went thru that ordeal of being arrested, jailed, then acquitted tapos sikat at may poise pa din.

    even marcos hindi nya kinaya ang humiliation na dinanas nya after edsaI, kaya that's why namatay kagad siya years later in exile. sobra sa nagdamdam

    isipin na lang natin sinabi ni Steve Jobs "I'm the only person I know that's lost a quarter of a billion dollars in one year.... It's very character-building." and he said during pre imac iphone days. late 90's ata.

    now that's one competitive person. nun naabswelto si Erap, he deserves my respect even though I went to Edsa 2.

    for me, yan ang dapat i-measure. not all those flowery world like i will beat corruption etc. etc.

    if erap can change his fate from doom to success. imagine if that blessing he can do to the country

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    #115
    Erap was convicted then pardoned. His candidacy is still being questioned before the Comelec because his pardon is not absolute based on the pardon papers signed by GMA and accepted by Erap.

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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Miting View Post
    a competent person is someone who has went from the most powerful man to the most humiliated man then still manage to emerge as a respectable figure in society.

    yan si erap no other leader went thru that ordeal of being arrested, jailed, then acquitted tapos sikat at may poise pa din.

    even marcos hindi nya kinaya ang humiliation na dinanas nya after edsaI, kaya that's why namatay kagad siya years later in exile. sobra sa nagdamdam

    isipin na lang natin sinabi ni Steve Jobs "I'm the only person I know that's lost a quarter of a billion dollars in one year.... It's very character-building." and he said during pre imac iphone days. late 90's ata.

    now that's one competitive person. nun naabswelto si Erap, he deserves my respect even though I went to Edsa 2.

    for me, yan ang dapat i-measure. not all those flowery world like i will beat corruption etc. etc.

    if erap can change his fate from doom to success. imagine if that blessing he can do to the country

    Hindi na abswelto si erap. GMA gave him a pardon.

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    #117
    Tuwing napapanood ko si Gibo sa mga debate, talagang mapapahanga ka, magaling talaga yung mama..Pero pag naalala ko yung mukha at boses ni Mikee na nagsasabi "why does it always have to be my father" tapos maalala mo yung mukha ni FG, tapos yung ZTE deal, yung fertilizer scam yung hello Garci,yung binabara ni Winnie monsod si Mikee re his SAL ang his house in the US...napapa facepalm talaga ko eh

    Kahit sabihing ibang tao siya di mo maiiwasang isiping may koneksiyon parin eh para bang may phobia ka na sa anything that is even remotely connected to these people

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    #118
    So Mr. Oliver kay Abnoy, Money, Dick or Erap ka?

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    #119
    Kung ngayon ang eleksiyon, mapapa toss coin ako, between idealistic vs realistic.

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    #120
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Leadership is only as good as the governed who would be willing to follow him. Insisting that your candidate is an effective leader will only matter if he wins the election which is a far cry from what is happening right now. Ergo, he is not an effective leader because the people do not want him to lead them. You're right, he is like a square peg in a round hole.
    Your logic is really amazing as well as your reading and comprehension skills, man! Seems like you're deliberately misinterpreting a simple straightforward post using a headache-inducing logic and "putting words on other's mouth" which are often way-off.

    No point in attempting to have an intelligent discussion.

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