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View Poll Results: Will you vote for the administration bet, Gibo?

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    46 53.49%
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  1. Join Date
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    #61
    Dami kong nakausap na mga matanda karamihan sa kanila nagagalingan kay Marcos, disiplinado daw dati mga tao. Unlike ngayon puro pasaway. As for being a crook, who aint?

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    What bothers me about gibo is his party, Lakas-Kampi-CMD which is supporting him very much. I do believe that this political party, which they claim they hold 3 out of 4 current government positions, is very corrupt. Examples of which are the hello garci scandal, as well as the Php500million/poltitican bribe exposed by Gov Panlilio. These Lakas-Kampi-CMD members "killed" any effort to investigate GMA against these corruptions.

    Do we really think that they would support gibo as their presidential bet if gibo was really not corrupt and would go after and stop their lavish lifestyles earned from corruption?

    If you look at his time as secretary of dep of nat'l defense, this may explain why they got him. Even before his time, young officers have been complaining about guns and ammunition being sold, for the benefit of corrupt officers and politicians. During gibo's time, this apparently did not change, as per uncovering guns and armaments from the Ampatuans with marking of "DND" and date of manufacture of 2009, during gibo's watch.

    During gibo's time, he did not fire or remove anyone due to these type of corruption. So was he part of the corruption already, or was he just ignorant and incapable of stopping corruption even in his own department?

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    if i become president, i will not go after those who are corrupt. sobrang time-consuming nun kaya nga may ombudsman and other agencies to go after it.

    let's stop thinking that a president will do this do that. ang kailangan lang gawin ng presidente is to make opportunities for all of us. it's not even about money, the mere fact that he can be infectious with his words, that will lead to something far more greater than pinpointing who's to blame or who's to crucify.

    let's take for example, the ZTE deal. dami dito naka-debate ko noon na sana ituloy na lang even it is perceived to be a corrupt deal.

    eh di ngaun, nakikinabanang na sana tayo sa benefits of a 21st century modern communication facilities govt. , asan yun pera na suppose na-ma-cocorrupt sana sa ZTE deal. wala na din, na-corrupt sa ibang paraan. malamang nasa election funds na.

    we filipinos should only be concerned about opportunities not about money - what's lost or what's earned. money is a tool to make opportunities.

    kaya nga either Gibo or Erap ako eh. Erap bec. sobrang charismatic nya na talaga. Gibo bec. at this early, most people are already saying good things about him even though they don't know him nor will vote for him.
    Last edited by Gen. Miting; February 23rd, 2010 at 04:26 PM.

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    #64
    ^tama! that way we will be 17th in terms of GDP by 2050(as predicted in the BRIC) study
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    #65
    don't pay attention to those GDP's and other international set guidelines. they were set by international banks hoping na sana mas mabilis ang bayad natin if we're going to work harder.

    by just just borrowing billions from them, tuwa na sila nun.

    anyways, ganun din naman. we dont work, we work harder. we will still borrow

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    #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Autobeat View Post
    What bothers me about gibo is his party, Lakas-Kampi-CMD which is supporting him very much. I do believe that this political party, which they claim they hold 3 out of 4 current government positions, is very corrupt. Examples of which are the hello garci scandal, as well as the Php500million/poltitican bribe exposed by Gov Panlilio. These Lakas-Kampi-CMD members "killed" any effort to investigate GMA against these corruptions.
    It is but natural to expect partymates to support their presidential candidate, it should be more bothersome if even the partymates are not supporting. Actually, in case of Gibo even some from other parties express their admiration for him since they know how intelligent and competent he is.

    As to the level of corruption of political parties, the same can be said about all the other political groupings, wala naman pagkakaiba yang mga yan. Gibo, however, distinguished himself by remaining clean and untainted by the graft and corruption endemic in the government service.

    It was not only Lakas-Kampi which "killed" the "Hello Garci" investigation, I understand Noynoy, even voted against it. But yes, as mentioned Lakas-Kampi is no different from the other big political parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by Autobeat View Post
    Do we really think that they would support gibo as their presidential bet if gibo was really not corrupt and would go after and stop their lavish lifestyles earned from corruption?
    Corruption is not really just in government, even in the private sectors, purchasing personnel and sales agents are usually in cahoot to bribe and get kickbacks from their transactions to the prejudice of their companies. If you've been in business long enough, you'll know that the same people cursing the government as being corrupt do the same thing in their private transactions. Hypocrisy is condemning others for acts you do yourself. The only difference is that in government it is both immoral and illegal in private it mostly immoral and unethical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Autobeat View Post
    If you look at his time as secretary of dep of nat'l defense, this may explain why they got him. Even before his time, young officers have been complaining about guns and ammunition being sold, for the benefit of corrupt officers and politicians. During gibo's time, this apparently did not change, as per uncovering guns and armaments from the Ampatuans with marking of "DND" and date of manufacture of 2009, during gibo's watch.

    During gibo's time, he did not fire or remove anyone due to these type of corruption. So was he part of the corruption already, or was he just ignorant and incapable of stopping corruption even in his own department?
    You must take things in their proper context. Remember that DND's procurement was one of the most corrupt in government, what with the likes of Gen. Carlos Garcia as AFP's Comptroller, pocketing hundreds of millions in kickbacks and his well educated family appeared to be completely unaware that it was wrong. Gibo was able to get rid of much of this kind of corruption by instituting rigorous procurement procedures. Morale of the soldiers soared during his time, which unfortunately was brief.

    Contrary to what you say, Gibo is a topnotch lawyer mentored no less by one of the best trial lawyers our country ever had. He knows his law well enough to follow proper investigation and due process. Again remember that even with the apparent overwhelming "evidence" against Gen. Garcia, after several years he still remains unconvicted of any of the bigger crimes charged. Gibo knows that the rule of law must be applied with great patience and not just go for instant vigilante type justice.

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    #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Gen. Miting View Post
    if i become president, i will not go after those who are corrupt. sobrang time-consuming nun kaya nga may ombudsman and other agencies to go after it.

    let's stop thinking that a president will do this do that. ang kailangan lang gawin ng presidente is to make opportunities for all of us. it's not even about money, the mere fact that he can be infectious with his words, that will lead to something far more greater than pinpointing who's to blame or who's to crucify.

    we filipinos should only be concerned about opportunities not about money - what's lost or what's earned. money is a tool to make opportunities.

    .
    I agree with you on this one, Sir

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    #68
    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...ays-Lakas-exec

    [SIZE=3]Gibo’s P400-M political ads fail to connect with poor, says Lakas exec [/SIZE]

    By TJ Burgonio
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 21:46:00 02/24/2010

    Filed Under: Politics, Eleksyon 2010, Elections

    MANILA, Philippines—An administration party official is blaming Lakas-Kampi-CMD standard-bearer Gilbert Teodoro’s P400-million infomercials for his poor showing in surveys.

    The infomercials, which show Teodoro switching on the controls of a plane to prepare for takeoff, have failed to connect with the poor, Lakas-Kampi-CMD vice president Prospero Pichay said Wednesday.

    “We’re not satisfied with the ratings. That is a signal that you have to double-time as far as campaign is concerned so the ratings will improve by the end of March,” Pichay said by phone.

    But in Pichay’s view, Teodoro’s poor ratings have more to do with the message that he’s trying to get across to the voters than with his ties to the Arroyo administration.

    “That’s not part of a stigma of the administration. I believe we’re not delivering the right message to the people as far as TV ad is concerned,” said the former Surigao del Sur lawmaker, who lost in the senatorial race in 2007.

    Pichay said the infomercials, which try to deliver the message of an economic takeoff in a Teodoro administration, appealed more to the ABC class than to the D and E classes.

    “The message has to be understood by ordinary Filipinos. They don’t understand what an airplane taking off is all about,” he said, noting that the poor could relate more to ads tackling gut issues like education, hunger and nutrition.

    Teodoro has spent P407 million on ads, next to Villar’s P1 billion, according to the AGB Nielsen Media Research.

    In the Taylor Nelson Sofres survey, conducted from Jan. 28 to Feb. 3, Teodoro slightly improved to 5.21 percent, but still lagged behind Senators Benigno Aquino III, Manuel Villar Jr. and deposed President Joseph Estrada.

    Observers have attributed Teodoro’s poor showing to his ties to unpopular President Macapagal-Arroyo.

    Mike Toledo conceded that the main criticism against the infomercials was that it appealed to the ABC crowd, and agreed that future ads should be “tweaked” to appeal to the other classes.

    The spokesperson for Teodoro disagreed with the observation that the infomercials had failed to connect with the poor.

    The poor are not dumb, Toledo said. “They are attuned to the times. It’s our responsibility to treat them equally as the AB class,” he said.

    Besides, the infomercials’ message was clear. “It sends a message that we can [take off] with him,” he said.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8inkv2FNgM0&feature=related"]YouTube- Gibo Teodoro TV Ad - "Sulong Gibo"[/ame]

    Gibo should learn from Estrada's "Jeep ni Erap" campaign.

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    #69
    Teodoro has spent P407 million on ads, next to Villar’s P1 billion, according to the AGB Nielsen Media Research.
    I find it hard to believe Teodoro has spent almost half of Villar's costs. 4 folds or more ata si villiar sa ads tv, radio and posters.

    and 3 years ago, naririnig ko na sa radyo yung programang tungkol sa buhay ni villiar na parang maalala mo kaya.
    Last edited by rion; March 2nd, 2010 at 02:04 AM.

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    #70
    Gibo will be an ideal president, in six to twelve years.
    He just has to polish his resume, perfect his skills in disaster coordination and align himself to respected personalities.

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