Mitsubishi Pajero Fieldmaster (Gen 2.5) [ARCHIVED]

[JJCarEnthusiast]

test ano ba yang geolander at+II?

ako gamit ko noon maxxis buckshot mt 32" sa front and geolandar a/t 31" (na naka kabit na sa rims nung binili namin) ackward pero bago kc ung maxxis e.

[testament11]

ay sorry jj, geolandar pala, hehehe...

pb, ganun pala yun, kelangan pa ipamachine shop para lang makabit ang bushings? hassle nga yan. kaya din siguro buong arms na ang pinalit para iwasan siguro nila ang trabaho ng machine shop

[jru120]

pano ba ang tama na lagay sa fins, pix 1 or pix 2?


pix 1:






pix 2:

[promdiboy]

jru120, pic 1 ang tama. dapat nakalitaw yung rubber. sa likod yung fins.

[chorizo]

testament, medyo nakakaduda nga na pinapalitan sayo yung upper arm. I dont think na kaya ubusin ng kalawang yan. medyo hassle din kasi sa shop pag bushing lang papalitan kasi kailangan pa nila pa machine shop. para ma press in/out. pag bumili ka ng bago kabit nalang ng kabit.

BFGoodrich AT/KO gamit ko. same kami ni larshell. highly recomended ko to ang gwapo at tagal maubos.

Sir, kamusta performance ng BF AT mo sa ulan? Pinag-iisipan ko rin yang BFGoodrich kasi dunlops ko malapit na maubos. Never again ako kukuha ng dunlops grandtrek, maganada nga ride pero bilis ma-ubos. Mas mura ba yan compared to Bridgestone AT duelers?

Thanks

[JJCarEnthusiast]

ay sorry jj, geolandar pala, hehehe...

pb, ganun pala yun, kelangan pa ipamachine shop para lang makabit ang bushings? hassle nga yan. kaya din siguro buong arms na ang pinalit para iwasan siguro nila ang trabaho ng machine shop

ah sori i mean, bakit a/t+II? bat may +II? yung geolandar na nabili namin yung sinasabi kong 1500 each lang, i/t+II kasi e. ewan ko anong i/t and +II

[RLX555]

mga idol,

binigay na ng casa ang quote nila for my front suspension repair... whopping P40,000 +++ daw. Plus calibration ng injection pump ko P25,000 a total of 65k, originally 79k daw, due to 35% parts and 15% labor discount 65k na lang daw. NO WAY!

nagpaquote ako sa Rapide, same parts to be replaced altho replacement (555) parts daw ang gagamitin ang quotation is P13,950. with 6mos warranty nationwide.

I have yet to look for a shop na gagawa ng calibration ng injection pump ko.

acceptable na ba yung Rapide quote? ok na kaya ang 555 parts, japan ba ito or Taiwan?

[nelany]

PB , magkano kuha mo ng BF Goodrich tires mo?

Testament, yung geolander magkano kuha mo? Ano say mo sa tires mo nayan?

[promdiboy]

pag nakita mo bfg tires mapapa WOW ka pag nakita mo. ang ganda kasi talaga tignan. yung tread niya ang taas mga 3/4 inch high, ganda ng shoulder ng tires may design. unlike sa ibang tires na wala pang 1/4 inch ang tread. naka takbo na ng 65k kms yung tires ko hindi pa ubos. gamit sa gen 2 pajero namin is bridgestone dueller AT d694, ok din pero hindi kasing gwapo ng BFG. ang downside niya is sa tagal ng buhay niya, rubber gets harder habang tumatagal. nabili ko way back 2003 pa kaya medyo matigas na. and feeling ko mas umiingay na. meron pa 1/4 inch na tread sa ngayon, kaya pa ng mga 20k more.

performance wise nung bago walang problema sobrang kapit kahit sa ulan. May experience ako diyan sa quirino avenue going to roxas. tuloy tuloy na puro green light kaya medyo mabilis na takbo ko, pag dating sa may victoria court biglang may lumabas na pedicab, putek, todo preno, may katabi ako kaya di ako makaiwas, kapit na kapit yung tires hindi siya dumulas agad. feeling ko hindi kinaya ng brakes pigilan kaya hindi nag lock yung brakes agad, nung medyo padulo na tsaka siya umiyak. ngayon luma na mas madulas na siya but hindi kasing dulas ng dunlops digitire. road noise naman sa sctex9 alam niyo yung nasasagasaan na mini mini humps pag malapit na yung toll gate, mas tahimik sa loob bfg compared sa pirellli scorpion AT.
price naman medyo mahal siya than most tires, nung nabili ko 6 yrs ago 6,500 yung 275/70r16. nasa 8k plus each na yata ngayon kung tama alala ko sa sabi ni larshell. super recomended ko tong tires, di na ako bibili ng iba pa. yung dueller HT ko na oem early 40k kms lang super dulas na at na reach na yung tread wear indicator.


rlx555, read ka sa comments dito sa tsikot about rapide, calibration sa central diesel nasa 18k. ok na ang 555 but it wont last as long as oem. balljoints and pitman and idler arm kung kaya oem mas maganda.
sa naalala ko mga dapat palitan are
balljoints upper and lower (oem)
bushings dalawang upper and isang lower (oem)
stabilizer bar U bushing (oem) 150 pesos lang to
stabilink 555
idler and pitman arm (oem sana but pwede narin 555)
tierod end inner and outer (555)

[Bisita]

Greetings po to all FM owners. Im recently on looking for an SUV with 4x4 capabilities,budget around 500 to 600+K, to make the story short, i have my eyes on the Pajero Fieldmaster around 1999 model.

Now i have a lot of questions i hope you could help me with, i have been researching late into the night about the pajero for the past few nights and have been wanting to get more concrete answers from users. BTW, i would not be using it everyday naman, tancha ko 2 to 3 times a week papuntang tanay, may part kasi dun na unpaved and very rocky road na, i dont want pick ups din kasi meron na dad ko. pasensya na kasi personally i own a civic, its my first car and for years its the only thing i know, now kasi diesel engine, ibang brand, SUV pa, plus second hand

1. How much would a pajero 4x4 FM 1999 model be selling nowadays,from direct sellers and those in second hand shops?given its in good condition and no major engine problems?(nakalagay kasi dun negotiable, but i have no idea how much, most probably i would be buying from those shops)

2. What are the most common "sakit" or problems with the FM?

3. Is it true na mahal ang maintenance neto?parts availability from suspension, engine, turbo, power windows etc? ( am just starting to learn about diesel engines palang) Lalo na yung turbo, pag nasira how do you fix it? how much would one cost? are the parts used durable?

4. Naka-inspect ako ng isang unit kanina, sobrang lakas at grabe ang usok from the muffler, iniwasan ko na sya. Given na its a diesel engine, ganun ba talaga ang usok neto? if kung may usok gaano lang dapat kahina at anung klase ang kulay dapat?

5. If mausok na ang engine, kahit ba irepair, overhaul, mawawala yung usok?ang perception ko kasi is that mahirap na mapatino ulit.

6. what to expect from the fieldmaster? i know na mejo underpowered siya pero its alright naman with me as long as it gets me from point A to point B. how bout aircondition system? maingay ba sa loob, like maririnig yung diesel engine, suspension parts etc.? how about the ride?

7.bihira ako makakita ng manual neto, madalas laspag din. konti lang ba talaga mga manual? personally i dont like matics eh, pero kung walang choice, okay ba matic neto? nabasa ko somewhere na sirain daw matic neto? if sirain,mura ba parts? plus is it just me? halos lahat 4x2 nakikita ko, baka may reason for it.

8.lastly, how can i tell na superb or magandang condition pa yung FM? i read here somewhere is to really check the interior especially the driver side area, kung laspag sidings, may scracthes, steering wheel, seats. aside from that anu pa? lalo na sa engine? hayop naman kasi ang detail ng mga shops na second hand, para lang mabulag ka or matago nila yung true condition ng car minsan.

THANKS in ADVANCE sa laht ng magtiatiagang sumagot hehehe ang hirap kasi ng walang alam eh.

[dexlirio]

newbie po, i have a pajero 2.8 fm, and it keeps on leaking oil rear side, but not as alarming, kasi patak lng po tska hindi naman po nagbabawas whenever i check on the engine oil, pero nakakairita po, kasi whenever i see my garage meron po spot of oil, ok namn po walang leak sa rocker cover pati sa mga half moons front and rear, i think the culprit is the rear oil seal, any body here had their rear oil seal done, what i heard po kasi eh mejo mahal po ang labor, kasi they have to take off the whole tranny., para maaccess nila ung rear side of the engine...

any input appreciated thank you.

i had been reading the earlier post, dun po sa speedometer problem, change my speed sensor and no luck, check the wiring from the sensor to the gauge no luck, the culprit is the main PCB underneath the speedometer, have it check to your suking electrician, mine eh my binypass lng na connection and naging ok na..

my tires are michellin ltx at.. and nearly 10k na, ok pa din..

[testament11]

hello sir, i'll try my best to answer your questions. for me, i do not have a fieldmaster pajero, jdm lang nga pajero ko pero it has a fieldmaster engine, jdm pajero 2.8L ang ride ko.

here are the answers to your questions:

1. Pajero FM sa ngayon, lowest i've seen na diesel eh around 600k up. newer models, around 900k to 1M, depending on model. there are 2 types of FM, 4x2 at 4x4. ang 4x4 ay makikita sa older models kasi ang new releases, 4x2 lang kung hindi ako nagkakamali.

2. since diesel, eto ang madalas, usok. sa kin, usok lang talaga. others are fine with me

3. ganito kasi, kaya nasabi mahal gawa din na nakakabit ang "pajero" na name. alam mo naman, pag sinabi naka-pajero ka, mayaman. kaya ang tendency, mahal ang piyesa talaga. parts availability, mitsubishi yan kaya hindi mahirap hanapin yan. much better to get oem parts para sigurado.

4. i'm glad to say na almost zero ang usok ng pajero ko kahit i-arangkada ko pa. pina-observe ko sa erpats ko yan dati at sabi niya, walang kausok-usok kahit na luma na ang makina. black smoke is ok pero pag yan puti, baka loose compression na ang makina. pero ang 4m40 engine is one good engine.

5. bro, alaga sa change oil ang kelangan para minimize ang usok ng makina. yan ang susi sa magandang diesel engine.

6. 4m40 engine for me is sluggish sa 0-80kph pero pag nagumpisa na pumalo sa 80kph yan, haharurot na yan ng mabilis. so far nagawa kong top speed is 140kph. now, 4m40 engine is not underpower. kayang kaya niya dalhin ang buong body. aircon system naman kasi, depende yan sa nagmamaintain pero kung ako tatanungin, mga kaklase ko pag nakasakay, kung pwede patayin ko daw ang aircon, lalo na sa gabi. diesel engine yan, expect it to be noisy pero hindi naman ganun kaingay ang 4m40 eh, tahimik pa nga siya dun sa bagong bago na adventure ng kapitbahay namin . also expect on the fieldmaster, syempre status symbol, comfortability, luxury

7. jdm kasi pajero ko pero for me, ok naman ang matic tranny niya. alaga lang naman sa atf change oil yan. pag naramdaman mo na matagal na magpalit ng gear, change oil mo na. pero ok ang a/t. gusto ko sana i-try ang m/t na fieldmaster kung may kilala lang ako para lang mas mafeel ko ang ride mismo.

8. depende naman yan sa nagbebenta. kung maalaga ang nagbebenta, aba expect na maganda rin ang overall ng tsikot. since jdm yun sa kin, exterior, and interior, satisfied ako sa looks. iisipin mo, 15 up to date na kasi ang pajero ko pero kung makikita mo, well maintained ang interior kahit wala akong leather seats. nasa guamgamit yan bro...

well i hope na nasagot ko kahit papaano ang tanong mo regarding your concerns. sana makabili ka ng FM, i'm sure masasatisfied ka.

TIP: test drive mo ang natitipuhan mong FM tapos dun mo pwede ma-assess kung ano ang problema at feeling ng ride

[promdiboy]

Welcome to tsikot bisita. try ko sagutin some of your questions.

1. dont know, swertehan nalang talaga makahanap ng fresh at mura, take note lang 99 model is already 10 years old kaya normal lang na used na talaga.
2. sakit wala naman ako alam, wear and tear lang siguro ng mga parts.
3. maraming replacement parts ang pajero, kung budget ka no problem ka, halos mga 1/3 lang price ng oem vs replacement. oil filter palang 1,600 oem gamit ko, while vic nasa 500 lang. I would still recomend oem hanggat kaya ng budget.
4. mine hindi mausok, ang pinaka dapat lang naman iwasan yung kumakain na ng langis, kung usok marami pwedeng reasons pwedeng simple air filter change lang to as bad as blow by na. best way to be sure is pa compression test mo.
5. same as no. 4 question
6. no problem sa lamig, ride medyo may magkakaproblem ka kasi you mentioned galing ka sa civic. ingay meron talaga kasi diesel. pag nasa highway ka doing 130 rinig mo talaga yung makina. suspension parts basta papalitan mo lahat sabay sabay it will last a very long time. spend ka mga 25 to 30k dito pwede pa bumaba ng malaki pag replacement 555 parts gamitin.
7. so far wala naman ako problem sa AT ko, basta alagaan lang sa change ATF oil wala naman problem, 99 lang kasi nilabas ang manual pajero
8. pag 99 model expect mo laspag na talaga yung driver side, normal wear and tear na yan.
try to read on your spare time the whole thread, lista mo yung mga napagusapan dito na dapat icheck. for sure mapapadali ka sa pag hahanap ng fresh unit. Goodluck sa hunting,

[badsekktor]

question lang about 4x4, recently parang hirap umarangkada yun rig ko saka kapag paatras while turning, minsan humihinto kapag di ka nakatapak sa silinyador. is this a problem with the 4x4? parang hindi nagdidisengage ng maayos yun 4wd kasi

[promdiboy]

testament, pareho tayo ng mga sagot ah,

dexlirio, sure ba engine oil? kasi di kamo nagbabawas engine oil, di kaya atf or diff oil? is it black (engine oil)? yellow (diff or transfer case) gear oil? red (atf or power steering)?


badsektor, dati na experience ko nung binalik ko sa 2wd from 4wd, hindi pa tapos mag blink yung frony wheels, inatras ko, ayaw din umatras parang naipit yung diff, kaya ianabante ko muna hanggang mawala yung blink tsaka ko inatras. di yata pwede mag reverse unless fully disengaged na yung transfer case.

[dysdamon]

ano kaya probs ng 4m40 pag hindi na umaabot sa red mark yung needle ng rpm kahit pa floor na yung pedal?

[badsekktor]

testament, pareho tayo ng mga sagot ah,

dexlirio, sure ba engine oil? kasi di kamo nagbabawas engine oil, di kaya atf or diff oil? is it black (engine oil)? yellow (diff or transfer case) gear oil? red (atf or power steering)?


badsektor, dati na experience ko nung binalik ko sa 2wd from 4wd, hindi pa tapos mag blink yung frony wheels, inatras ko, ayaw din umatras parang naipit yung diff, kaya ianabante ko muna hanggang mawala yung blink tsaka ko inatras. di yata pwede mag reverse unless fully disengaged na yung transfer case.

mukhang yun nga ang culprit eh.... hmmm papacheck ko na lang sa mekaniko

[testament11]

hehehe... oo nga eh, halos pareho tayo ng sagot pb. pero gusto ko talaga malaman pa rin ang difference ng sa kin at ng fm, kung ano ba talaga ang pinagkaibahan ng fm sa jdm 4m40 at functions. one difference palang na nakita ko, air filter. bilog o cylindrical sa inyo, sa kin oval type

[testament11]

hehehe... oo nga eh, halos pareho tayo ng sagot pb. pero gusto ko talaga malaman pa rin ang difference ng sa kin at ng fm, kung ano ba talaga ang pinagkaibahan ng fm sa jdm 4m40 at functions. one difference palang na nakita ko, air filter. bilog o cylindrical sa inyo, sa kin oval type

[badsekktor]

1. How much would a pajero 4x4 FM 1999 model be selling nowadays,from direct sellers and those in second hand shops?given its in good condition and no major engine problems?(nakalagay kasi dun negotiable, but i have no idea how much, most probably i would be buying from those shops)

600+ to 800 it varies depending on the condition of the rig

2. What are the most common "sakit" or problems with the FM?

Mostly wear and tear problems since this is an old car already. expect problems with bushings and front suspension

3. Is it true na mahal ang maintenance neto?parts availability from suspension, engine, turbo, power windows etc? ( am just starting to learn about diesel engines palang) Lalo na yung turbo, pag nasira how do you fix it? how much would one cost? are the parts used durable?

it is actually quite cheap to maintain (except for the tires and oem shocks)

4. Naka-inspect ako ng isang unit kanina, sobrang lakas at grabe ang usok from the muffler, iniwasan ko na sya. Given na its a diesel engine, ganun ba talaga ang usok neto? if kung may usok gaano lang dapat kahina at anung klase ang kulay dapat?

hindi naman sya mausok unless may diperensya yun unit or biglang tatapakan ang gas pedal. it is a heavy rig so yun acceleration nya talaga is not as good as your civic. it takes time to build up speed

5. If mausok na ang engine, kahit ba irepair, overhaul, mawawala yung usok?ang perception ko kasi is that mahirap na mapatino ulit.

kayang-kaya yan ng mga suking mekaniko natin.

6. what to expect from the fieldmaster? i know na mejo underpowered siya pero its alright naman with me as long as it gets me from point A to point B. how bout aircondition system? maingay ba sa loob, like maririnig yung diesel engine, suspension parts etc.? how about the ride?

medyo underpowered siguro kung hanap mo eh acceleration. aircon is good, dual A/C pa sya. maingay..... usually 2nd row seats tend to sqeak. diesel engines are noisy. kung gusto mo padagdagan mo na lang ng padding sa loob.
stock shock absorbers are wobbly so expect na medyo maalog lalo na kung soft ang setting.

7.bihira ako makakita ng manual neto, madalas laspag din. konti lang ba talaga mga manual? personally i dont like matics eh, pero kung walang choice, okay ba matic neto? nabasa ko somewhere na sirain daw matic neto? if sirain,mura ba parts? plus is it just me? halos lahat 4x2 nakikita ko, baka may reason for it.

mahirap maghanap ng manual nito. 4x4 variants are the earlier models while the 4x2 variants are the later models. I prefer the 4x4 since this is an SUV afterall.

8.lastly, how can i tell na superb or magandang condition pa yung FM? i read here somewhere is to really check the interior especially the driver side area, kung laspag sidings, may scracthes, steering wheel, seats. aside from that anu pa? lalo na sa engine? hayop naman kasi ang detail ng mga shops na second hand, para lang mabulag ka or matago nila yung true condition ng car minsan.

check all the switches and electrical. check for vibrations especially from the shifter (kapag may vibration, palit ka transmission support) check if transmission is ok since this is an automatic tranny(check if it is shifting correctly. approx 40 to 45 kph for 3rd gear and 65 to 70 kph 4th gear) check ATF, check for leaks(engine, atf, power steering, gearbox etc) check the engine(start engine, open filling cap, then place your palm. if oil splatters, maybe the engine needs to be overhauled)