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    #1421
    Congrats sir ChoyJo. Ano po tint and variant ginamit nyo? i like the fit with your black GTV.
    Black din po kasi color preference namin and based on the photo taken inside the MS, eh di gaano compromised yung visibility.

    TIA

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    #1422
    Quote Originally Posted by tc327 View Post
    same this one i have sa Goldrich Banawe 6K-7K petot


    oh if your looking for the new one same as GTV hmmmm ewan kung meron na sa after market

    what do you call the silver plate sa bottom part ng bumper? is that just painted or body kit? where can i get one?

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    #1423
    Quote Originally Posted by QUARTZBRO View Post
    Sir Krinx "it is a little practice that goes in a long, long way". Na-afford easily nga bilhin ng daddy mo ang montero, yong diesel pa kaya? Ever since HINDI AKO NAG-WARM UP SA MGA SASAKYAN KO MAS LALO NA SA MONTERO KO NGAYON. IT IS A WRONG PRACTICE KONG FUEL INJECTED ANG MAKINA.

    Should You Let Your Car Warm Up Before Driving?
    By Dirk Gibson Dirk Gibson
    Level: Platinum
    Dirk Gibson works on cars and loves auto racing.

    Remember those cold mornings when you were a kid? Dad would go out, fire up the station wagon and come inside to drink coffee while the car warmed up. Warming up the car just makes sense, right? Actually, it does not.
    There is an old saying that just because 50 million people say something, it doesn't make it true. This is very much the case with the notion of letting your car warm up. You've heard you are supposed to do it and, logically, it seems to make sense. The only problem, of course, is it is nonsense if your car is fuel injected, which most are these days.

    First things first - your father was not wrong about warming up the old station wagon. Cars used to have carburetors to handle the fuel input into the engine. Carburetors were not precise instruments and they worked better when warmed up. By letting the car idle, the engine would warm up. Heat would rise and the carburetor would get nice and toasty.

    Nearly all modern cars have ditched the carburetor approach. Now, they are designed to use electronic fuel injection systems controlled by computer programs and processing units. These new systems do not need to a warm up period. The programs work right off the bat. When the car is cold, the programs will adjust the fuel flow to come up with the most efficient engine performance solution. As the car warms up, the software program will continue to adjust the fuel mixture.

    Ah, but what about lubrication? Letting the car warm up gets the oil moving around and so on, right? Again, we have to look at how the modern car works and the products that have been tailored to it. Modern oil does not come from the ground directly to your car. It is processed, refined and tweaked to create certain properties. One of them is a "stickiness" that causes the oil to bond at a molecular level with the engine parts. This means that there is effectively a layer of oil on the parts at all time, even before you start the car!
    The desire to fire up your car and let it sit while warming up is one you really have to fight. All you are accomplishing when you do this is wasting gas and kicking out fumes from the tailpipe. Time is money. Get a move on!



    [SIZE=2]Article Source: [/SIZE][SIZE=2]http://EzineArticles.com/?expert=Dirk_Gibson [/SIZE]
    thanks for the informative article... actually, i have a strada (and a tscp member too ) and there is a section in the manual that you should not excessively idle since it is a waste of time and diesel... sabi pa nga eh dapat after starting, go na agad... unfortunately, i browsed through the manual of the montero pero wala akong nakitang ganitong quote... hirap tuloy iconvince ang oldies lalo na at sasabihin niyang "50 years na akong nagdridrive".. hehehehehehe... anyway... thanks again...

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    #1424
    Quote Originally Posted by nick_a_jose View Post
    what do you call the silver plate sa bottom part ng bumper? is that just painted or body kit? where can i get one?
    SKID PLATE i believe...

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    #1425
    Quote Originally Posted by krinkx View Post
    thanks for the informative article... actually, i have a strada (and a tscp member too ) and there is a section in the manual that you should not excessively idle since it is a waste of time and diesel... sabi pa nga eh dapat after starting, go na agad... unfortunately, i browsed through the manual of the montero pero wala akong nakitang ganitong quote... hirap tuloy iconvince ang oldies lalo na at sasabihin niyang "50 years na akong nagdridrive".. hehehehehehe... anyway... thanks again...
    If they insist on warming it up, sabihin mo sabi ng taga-MMC mismo kahit 1 min lang ok na.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #1426
    Ha ha.

    Sure people still warm up their cars in the cold of winter; but not for the reasons the writer gave.

    The main reason would be to bring the coolant up to temperature in order for you to have the heater working. There would be two reasons why I would want the heater to be hot.
    One being, if you leave your centrally heated house at about 22C and get into a car that is well below freezing it is not a nice experience.
    The second (and most important) reason would be to keep ice and mist off your windscreen.
    Some expensive cars overcome these problems with supplementary electric heater on remote, heated washer nozzles, and even heated windscreens.

    I would never idle my car on startup for any other reasons other than that; but that does not mean I would rev my car up to the red-line immediatly after starting. Of course that reason does not apply here in The Philippines

    As we all know after some heated driving it is good to idle a turbo diesel for a short time before shutting down

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    #1427
    Quote Originally Posted by nick_a_jose View Post
    what do you call the silver plate sa bottom part ng bumper? is that just painted or body kit? where can i get one?

    sir its painted only

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    #1428
    Quote Originally Posted by krinkx View Post
    guys, just wanted to ask... is it necessary to "warm up" monteros? my father warms up his montero for about 5 minutes before leaving... is this necessary or just a waste of diesel...

    thanks...
    sa intrumental panel may parang coil na light sa 2010, pagnawala pwede na start

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    #1429
    Quote Originally Posted by krinkx View Post
    guys, just wanted to ask... is it necessary to "warm up" monteros? my father warms up his montero for about 5 minutes before leaving... is this necessary or just a waste of diesel...

    thanks...
    Quote Originally Posted by krinkx View Post
    thanks for the informative article... actually, i have a strada (and a tscp member too ) and there is a section in the manual that you should not excessively idle since it is a waste of time and diesel... sabi pa nga eh dapat after starting, go na agad... unfortunately, i browsed through the manual of the montero pero wala akong nakitang ganitong quote... hirap tuloy iconvince ang oldies lalo na at sasabihin niyang "50 years na akong nagdridrive".. hehehehehehe... anyway... thanks again...
    The article forgot to mention that metals expands proportional to the increase of heat. That parts fitted together has to receive and retain heat in a gradual manner and of the same rate in order to maintain clearance or in-case of forced fit parts, to maintain tightness of fit.

    Example:
    The dynamic and static duo... called piston and liner.

    Liner is very thin and is surround by engine block and some hollow spaces that contains water.
    When heat from combustion is received by the liner, the heat is almost immediately transferred to the engine block and water around it. Therefore the liner cannot retain heat and any increase of the diameter of the liner will depend on the increase in the diameter of the bore of the engine block. Problem is, the entire engine block has to be heated also in order for the bore diameter to slightly increase.
    It will take some minutes to heat-up the engine block. This is the main reason why in cold countries they have electric heaters for engine block. This is also the main reason why there are aluminum alloy blocks (aluminum is very good heat conductor) which is more widely known for weight reduction.

    Now, piston is aluminum alloy, a very good conductor of heat and since it is like floating inside the liner, it dissipates heat through convection, radiation blah... blah and a very little conduction going to the piston rod via the pin and oil.
    In short, piston retains the heat of combustion and it expands depending on the amount of heat from combustion.

    When piston expands while the liner have not yet, the piston pushes the piston rings harder towards the surface of the liner and it creates abnormal wear or may scratch the liner.



    Next example will be the valve seat and cylinder head... but I think no need to explain for now. The above explanation would be enough to give credit to what your father is doing.

    As long as the smoke coming from the engine does not pollute your home, there is no wrong in idling the engine for a few minutes. But of course don't do it excessively as what the manual says.

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    #1430
    Quote Originally Posted by obek View Post
    Mga sirs,

    I recently underwent change oil for the first 1k, my problem now is that
    after the change oil i noticed that my multi-info display is not functioning properly....

    The gauge for fuel consumption and speed specifically, i tried to reset the 2 but to no avail, when i got it from the casa all are working finely. Is there anyone that knows how to fix this kasi personally ayaw ko iwan ung car ko sa case ng matagal kasi gingmit ko sya.. TIA
    Same here! But mine is the Distance info. It is stuck with the 50km even on full tank. and recently, I can only see ------
    my Altmeter is ZERO even if I go to the bukid and Barometer doesnt change.

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    #1431
    Quote Originally Posted by arsen View Post

    As long as the smoke coming from the engine does not pollute your home, there is no wrong in idling the engine for a few minutes. But of course don't do it excessively as what the manual says.
    how excessive is excessively?

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    #1432
    Quote Originally Posted by arsen View Post

    As long as the smoke coming from the engine does not pollute your home, there is no wrong in idling the engine for a few minutes. But of course don't do it excessively as what the manual says.
    how excessive is excessively?

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    #1433
    Which dealer would you recommend for service? I've heard horror stories re: Citi and Union Motors

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    #1434
    Quote Originally Posted by md_alcapone View Post
    how excessive is excessively?
    Do you mean how many minutes? It depends on the actual measurement and the location (ambient temperature).

    Since you ask specifically, here it is:

    If the 4d56 diesel engine coolant temperature reaches over 82 degree Celsius.

    Oh no you have to use a laboratory grade mercury thermometer, have to open the radiator cap and dip the thermometer if you want to measure that.

    Take also the time how long it takes to reach that 82 degree temperature.

    Post the time here together with the ambient temperature during the time of measurement .
    By doing so everyone will now know how many minutes is considered excessive specifically for hot country like the Philippines.

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    #1435
    Quote Originally Posted by arsen View Post
    Do you mean how many minutes? It depends on the actual measurement and the location (ambient temperature).

    Since you ask specifically, here it is:

    If the 4d56 diesel engine coolant temperature reaches over 82 degree Celsius.

    Oh no you have to use a laboratory grade mercury thermometer, have to open the radiator cap and dip the thermometer if you want to measure that.

    Take also the time how long it takes to reach that 82 degree temperature.

    Post the time here together with the ambient temperature during the time of measurement .
    By doing so everyone will now know how many minutes is considered excessive specifically for hot country like the Philippines.

    hahaha.... i guess i am not up to it... hehehe

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    #1436
    Quote Originally Posted by md_alcapone View Post
    how excessive is excessively?
    Do you mean how many minutes? It depends on the actual measurement and the location (ambient temperature).

    Since you ask specifically, here it is:

    If the 4d56 diesel engine coolant temperature reaches over 82 degree Celsius.

    Oh no you have to use a laboratory grade mercury thermometer, have to open the radiator cap and dip the thermometer if you want to measure that.

    Take also the time how long it takes to reach that 82 degree temperature.

    Post the time here together with the ambient temperature during the time of measurement .
    By doing so everyone will now know how many minutes is considered excessive specifically for hot country like the Philippines.

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    #1437
    Quote Originally Posted by painkiller View Post
    just wondering with my grand starex VGT AT, at 2000rpm i am already doing 110kph at 2500 rpm my speed is way past 140kph even with aircon on, and the eco drive still indicates economical driving (green light) parang ang laki discrepancy ng rpm reading ng ms vgt?
    My GLS-V a/t is doing 100kph at 2000 rpm also..... 140 kph rpm is below 3000.

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    #1438
    Quote Originally Posted by obek View Post
    Mga sirs,

    I recently underwent change oil for the first 1k, my problem now is that
    after the change oil i noticed that my multi-info display is not functioning properly....

    The gauge for fuel consumption and speed specifically, i tried to reset the 2 but to no avail, when i got it from the casa all are working finely. Is there anyone that knows how to fix this kasi personally ayaw ko iwan ung car ko sa case ng matagal kasi gingmit ko sya.. TIA
    Quote Originally Posted by pogy_uy View Post
    Same here! But mine is the Distance info. It is stuck with the 50km even on full tank. and recently, I can only see ------
    my Altmeter is ZERO even if I go to the bukid and Barometer doesnt change.
    Try to restore to factory setting... it might help... but you'll need to set your radio customization and other personal settings you made before...

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    #1439
    Quote Originally Posted by painkiller View Post
    just wondering with my grand starex VGT AT, at 2000rpm i am already doing 110kph at 2500 rpm my speed is way past 140kph even with aircon on, and the eco drive still indicates economical driving (green light) parang ang laki discrepancy ng rpm reading ng ms vgt?
    same with my GS. maybe due to the extra gear/FGR.

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    #1440
    Quote Originally Posted by rafmac View Post
    Which dealer would you recommend for service? I've heard horror stories re: Citi and Union Motors
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