The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[altec]

any idea what this is? At cold start, I am experiencing rough idling. But after you rev it up for up to 30 sec, the idling becomes normal. What could be the cause? I sent it to Kia, and they just pumped the priming pump, but the rough idling in the morning is still there.

[bonkjonks]

ok sir mintoy noted, kaso medyo malayo pa byahe ko para maipacheck ulit, currently kasi im in the prov and i dont want just any hands to fiddle with the engine, in the case of the strong vibration during idling i also noticed that the rpm is way below normal, rpm stays at 500 instead of the usual 750, really dont know what it is.

[boquito]

it is normal to feel a surge/boost in power because of the turbo when you step on the accelerator pedal. try to observe at what rpm do you feel this surge. it should be between 1k-2k prm.

second, are you also saying that there is a surge of power when you release the accelerator pedal? if so, then you have a problem with the injection pump. have your trusted calibration shop check it.

sir yapoy; sir benchph; and sir mintoy:
thanks for all the feedback. mukhang isa ang common sa mga responses nyo: injection pump. Malamang nga! Ipapaschedule ko na next week sa Betan. First time ko kasi magkadiesel. My engine supports, accelerator cable, CV joints, tranny, fuel filters are all in good working order and almost all newly serviced. I pray na ito na ang sagot.

sir mintoy: yung "reverse surge" naman sa akin parang biglang nagso-slow down kaya mapapasubsub ka ng konti. Nago-occur siya within the first half an inch ng pagrelease at pag tapak sa accelerator kaya wala pang 1500 rpm at hinde pa nag engage ang turbo. siguro ito na yung sinasabi sa mga injector discussions na nag he-"hesitate".

Thanks again mga Sirs. I can always count on this forum.

[yapoy86]

yup the brake pads sticks to the rotor. yun piston ng caliper doesn't go back. kaya the pads sticks to rotor. the culprit is the master cylinder, worn out na ata yun mga rubber loob.

ayun hanap muna ako ng repair kit.

bro, check mo muna yung "free play" ng brake pedal baka tukod... also have your master cylinder checked for worn out rubber seals... worst case is a defective vacuum booster...

yung assembled auv namin dati nag ka ganyan.. tumutukod yung preno kaya hirap tumakbo tapos umiinit yung rotors.. kaya minsan sa gitna ng daan eh nag bleed pa kami ng brakes para lang lumuwag.. yun pala yung vacuum booster ang problema..

[soluna_17]

bro, thats normal. rpm would even reach almost 4,000 if on power mode before shifting.

Oh I see, I thought something is wrong with the shifting.

Btw, although I haven't really tried measuring my FC, I estimate I am doing something like 7 to 8 kms/liter (mixed hiway-city, las pinas via slex to makati & vice versa). Is this ok for an A/T?

thanks

[bonkjonks]

hehehe ok na naman carnival ko, found out that the strong vibration e dahil sa kumalas na screw ng injection pump, na nagcause naman ng sira sa camshaft. diy ko lahat, and found out na tumalon na rocker arm sa position nya, dahil siguro sa lakas ng kalog and yung isang exhaust valve e di na maactuate... kaya nagiging tambutso na rin halos yung ait intake nya. pero ngayon ok na. ganda na naman ng takbo. even the shifting, yun nga lang costs me 2 more days to stay here but anyway, sakit talaga sa ulo.

[boquito]

Mga Sirs: Help! Hinde ko na talaga alam kung saan ko dadalin ang sasakyan ko for the sudden "surge and reverse surge" problem as I accelerate and decelerate. I already took your advice and went to Betan, they spent a lot of time with my Sedonna wala daw problema ang injectors. And then I went to cruven wala din problem sa pangilalim.

Sa "backlash" naman, when I tested it as how sir yapoy instructed, I can nudge it by about one inch only. Parang normal naman yata yon for a M/T.

Nasa casa rin ako last December. After replacing some CV joints wala pa rin. PMS check; the works. Ganoon din.

Walang slack ang accelerator cable, bagong mga fuel filters at all engine supports pero andyan pa rin.

Can I take it to one of you guys so you can look at it and you can compare it with yours? Anytime at anyplace in the Makati and neighboring towns sana or Cainta and neighboring towns, too. Wag lang Thursday sa Makati area. I will bring it to any of you who is willing to test drive it. I do not know what to think anymore. Thanks.

[bonkjonks]

sir boquito baka naman mga bushing mo lang sa ilalim, kasi yung kotse ko na lancer parang surge din ang dating pag apak sa accltr, alam ko na bushing sakit nun kasi pinang byahe ko yun sa bundok na roug road rally style ang driving, pero hinahayaan ko lang, lanaman kasi kaso, andar pa rin naman. guess lang po yun.

[celd15b]

guys, gud pm...baka pwede nyo ako matulungan ulit..

just this afternoon nung paalis n kami sa parking lot ng walter mart munoz

nung nag start na ako ng carnival, ung rpm ko biglang umakyat, nag rev mag isa....so i decided to switch the key off...dami tuloy usok sa labas ng parking....anyways, inulit ko ulit, start again, same result, rpm would shoot up....so patay ko ulit susi...then i decided to check the throttle cable, pero ok naman sya at walang slack....tama lang ang kabit....i also check my gas pedal, wala naman ako nakita problema....ilang beses din ako nag try mag start pero same result.....rpm would shoot up..basta umabot na ng around
2.5k rpm pinapatay ko na makina....i was in the parking lot for almost 3hrs...hassle

so nag pa tow na lang ako.....then malapit na ako sa circle, i decided to "kadyot" the car.habang naka tow....(taxi lang pala ang nag tow sa akin).....saying to myself, what the heck try ko paabutin hanggang dulo ung rpm....dahil bwiset na bwiset na ako.......

so i "kadyot" the car...then rpm went up.....1.5k....2k...3k then around 5k rpm...the needle went down and it returned to normal condition.......so i told the taxi to pull over...so ayun normal na ulit...

then dito na sa house....i turned it off, then start again...normal na naman sya.....

guys long story pero, ano kaya cause nito..baka pwede nyo ako matulungan mag detect kung ano problem......hay gastos na naman

tnx guys

[mintoy]

guys, gud pm...baka pwede nyo ako matulungan ulit..

just this afternoon nung paalis n kami sa parking lot ng walter mart munoz

nung nag start na ako ng carnival, ung rpm ko biglang umakyat, nag rev mag isa....so i decided to switch the key off...dami tuloy usok sa labas ng parking....anyways, inulit ko ulit, start again, same result, rpm would shoot up....so patay ko ulit susi...then i decided to check the throttle cable, pero ok naman sya at walang slack....tama lang ang kabit....i also check my gas pedal, wala naman ako nakita problema....ilang beses din ako nag try mag start pero same result.....rpm would shoot up..basta umabot na ng around
2.5k rpm pinapatay ko na makina....i was in the parking lot for almost 3hrs...hassle

so nag pa tow na lang ako.....then malapit na ako sa circle, i decided to "kadyot" the car.habang naka tow....(taxi lang pala ang nag tow sa akin).....saying to myself, what the heck try ko paabutin hanggang dulo ung rpm....dahil bwiset na bwiset na ako.......

so i "kadyot" the car...then rpm went up.....1.5k....2k...3k then around 5k rpm...the needle went down and it returned to normal condition.......so i told the taxi to pull over...so ayun normal na ulit...

then dito na sa house....i turned it off, then start again...normal na naman sya.....

guys long story pero, ano kaya cause nito..baka pwede nyo ako matulungan mag detect kung ano problem......hay gastos na naman

tnx guys

bro. wild rpm happen to our pregio. the culprit was a broken spring behind the rotor head. in my wife fuego. engine won't idle and just die. also due to a broken spring. if it happends again you might need to have your injection pump checked/ overhauled to see for damage.