The Kia Sedona/Carnival Thread [ARCHIVE]

[utakabo]

Korean pa yung 2 gulong mo? Huwag mo na patagalin yan bro.

Yung sa temp, mas mataas ang compression at init ng diesels kesa sa gas kaya pag nahihirapan ang makina maaaring tumaas ang needle -- but it shouldn't go anywhere near the red zone. Ako dati, pag uminit yung makina, pinapatay ko AC para makatulong. You should probably ask your SA though just to be sure.

second hand lang bro kya walang SA. one of the tires is firestone the other one im not sure kung kapareho. tnx for the reply

[pilot]

Vibrations that appear at expressway speeds are usually caused by unbalanced wheels. The wheels and tires may still be serviceable, but they are not just balanced at the moment.

Try to get them balanced first. Most shops that do alignment and suspension will also have balancing facilities (e.g. Servitek).

Shock absorbers will usually not be guilty of causing vibrations. The shocks themselves may vibrate when the bushings are worn, but they will not cause the vehicle to vibrate.

Sir Otep, thanks for reply.
napa balanced ko na yung mga gulong last saturday. apparently oblong daw yung isang rim, so nilagay nalang nila sa likod yun and they went on with the wheel balancing.

The result, medyo nabawasan naman yung vibration, pero meron parin at about 100kph. ano pa kaya ibang cause nun?

In addition, nag vvibrate din ba talaga yung steering wheel specially on rough road (e.g. parang gravel road condition).

Thanks in advance.

[mikey177]

utakabo:::The normal operating temp for my Sedona is just below the 1/2 mark on the temp gauge.

pilot::: The shop you went to just balanced the four wheels, they didn't perform wheel alignment? Could the oblong rim be contributing to the vehicle vibration, even if it is in the rear position?

[utakabo]

utakabo:::The normal operating temp for my Sedona is just below the 1/2 mark on the temp gauge.

pilot::: The shop you went to just balanced the four wheels, they didn't perform wheel alignment? Could the oblong rim be contributing to the vehicle vibration, even if it is in the rear position?

tnx, i suppose except for some differences, sedona and carnival are basically the same, right? the ride has been great so far, one week ko nang ginagamit.

[benchph1]

Hello guys.

just replaced our carnival's starter solenoid. cost me 2,500 including labor at signet edsa.

di ko nahingi ung replaced part kakamadali. umuulan kasi nung kinuha ko ung van. at least fixed na ung problema.

[mikey177]

Have any of you guys replaced the stock jack with a hydraulic bottle jack? I'm thinking of getting a bottle jack for the Sedona because I think it would be difficult lifting the van with the supplied jack in case I had to change a flat tire. Tanong ko lang kung kasya ang 3 ton jack sa ilalim ng van natin, parang matangkad kasi masyado ang bottle jack para sa Carnival/Sedona.

[SilverShadow]

Korean pa yung 2 gulong mo? Huwag mo na patagalin yan bro.

Yung sa temp, mas mataas ang compression at init ng diesels kesa sa gas kaya pag nahihirapan ang makina maaaring tumaas ang needle -- but it shouldn't go anywhere near the red zone. Ako dati, pag uminit yung makina, pinapatay ko AC para makatulong. You should probably ask your SA though just to be sure.

Sir, what do you mean by your comment "Korean pa yung 2 gulong mo? Huwag mo na patagalin yan bro."? Because I understand it in a negative way.

[pup2]

Sir, what do you mean by your comment "Korean pa yung 2 gulong mo? Huwag mo na patagalin yan bro."? Because I understand it in a negative way.

Yep. Hindi po maganda ang feedback sa orig korean tires dito sa forum. Hindi naman ako namba-bash but a lot of people change/swap them right away -- just search the threads and you'll see.

Medyo may impact sa safety kaya ko binabanggit sa inyo.

[benchph1]

Still using the supplied jack. naflatan ako once sa bahay and i had more workout in changing the tire than 3 hours in the gym

I dont trust bottle jacks. feeling ko kasi ang liit ng base niya at parang hindi stable. mas mabuti siguro kong alligator jacks. murang mura naman sa mga Hardware Shops sa malls. Better make sure lang na 3-ton jack ang kunin mo. kasi yung mga tig-1k kasi ay 2-ton which cannot support the weight of our rigs.

[mikey177]

Thanks, benchph1. I'm currently using an alligator jack, but I was thinking that it was too heavy to lug around everyday (sayang yung diesel fuel), so I was considering changing it with a bottle jack.

[leolop]

one of the first things i bought when i got the carnival was a hydraulic floor jack (the long ones with wheels) because the stock jack wasn't included. i got to use it a few weeks back when the front passenger tire got flat at the garage. it was only then i realized that a 1.5 ton jack was barely adequate. the issue was not so much the ability to lift, but i had to max the height just to be able to get the wheel off and barely did so. nice thing about hydraulic is that it's really easy vs those scissor jacks.

since the floor jack has to roll forward when it starts lifting, i realized it would be a problem if i ever got a flat out on the road and had to change on an uneven surface.para remedyo i got a block of wood para makalso next time. not too sure what that will do to the frame though.

BATTERY ISSUE my 2 year warranty on a 3sm outlast battery is just about to end. right now, starting the car in the morning takes an extra "redondo" before the engine starts. through the day it's one click. i know at some point the battery will surprise me by not starting, but my question is: may nasisisra ba kung hayaan ko muna na medyo mahirap i-start sa umaga or dapat bite the bullet and buy a new one now?

mikey: thanks for the info on the break release cable. hope it doesn't happen to me. where is that release lever located? what does it look like?

utakabo: congrats on your new ride! i'm sure your family loves it. my temp gauge is also normally at below half so that's no issue.

[mikey177]

leolop,

Here is what the parking brake release lever looks like when seen from under the dashboard. It's the part inside the red circle.



The photo was taken with the damaged cable already removed. Normally, the ball-type end of the cable fits into the semi-circle at the end of the lever. It was after taking this picture that I installed the makeshift cable made of GI wire, which is always a handy thing to carry in one's toolkit

[leolop]

mikey thanks for the info! hope i never have to use it though, but at least alam natin what to do in case.

[utakabo]

good morning guys!

Leolop: thanks. just had my second fulltank and my computation puts my FC at a little over 8km/l, is that ok for city driving (antipolo-ortigas center)?. Aircon of the carnival is now becoming an issue - sobrang lamig daw

the cd is not working when i bought the unit, i tried cleaning it but it only improve up to reading the number of tracks, it still wouldn't play. what i found out is that the head unit is not really 2-din but rather 2 separate systems and bridged only by some wires. from the looks of it the cd-player seems like using the radio component as an auxilliary. my question is, is it possible to replace the cd-player with another unit - actually my wife has been eyeing a portable dvd player for the kids, and have it connected to the radio component? i don't want to replace the whole head unit because of the controls at the steering wheel.
TIA!

[SilverShadow]

Yep. Hindi po maganda ang feedback sa orig korean tires dito sa forum. Hindi naman ako namba-bash but a lot of people change/swap them right away -- just search the threads and you'll see.

Medyo may impact sa safety kaya ko binabanggit sa inyo.

If you have the right figures, good. If not...

I hope this will not be the impression or mentality of car buyers in our country, because korean made automobiles have improve by leap and bounds as a whole.

[mikey177]

SilverShadow,

I agree with you wholeheartedly that the quality of Korean automobiles has been steadily improving, which is why I bought a new Starex last year and which is also why I have retained my 2002 Kia Sedona.

However, there is also sufficient basis for pup's observation that Korean tires remain one weak point in the whole package.

I am reposting two photos from the Hyundai Starex thread of my stock Hankook tires that came with my van, two of which suffered damage during the first year of their life.



My first tire suffered a hairline crack on its sidewall, which is the reason I had it and the tire opposite it replaced. I follow the casa-recommended 35 psi tire pressure for Philippine roads, and I check my tire pressure weekly since the Starex is driven on the highway every day.



This second photo shows the high-speed blowout that one of the two remaining Hankooks suffered while my driver was driving along MacArthur Highway. It's a good thing that he didn't lose control of the van. I surrended this second tire to Hyundai Dagupan for their evaluation. I never followed up the issue with them, since I had no interest in using Korean tires again for the time being.

It is not the job of automobile owners like myself to compile "numbers" on how many defects or accidents are caused by one brand of tire or another, so if you ask me for figures to back up the perception that Korean tires are not yet up to par with other makes, then I cannot offer you any. What our responsibility as forum members is, however, is to report on our personal experiences with our vehicles so that the buying public will be more aware and will make better decisions regarding the things that they spend their hard-earned money on.

[SilverShadow]

SilverShadow,

I agree with you wholeheartedly that the quality of Korean automobiles has been steadily improving, which is why I bought a new Starex last year and which is also why I have retained my 2002 Kia Sedona.

However, there is also sufficient basis for pup's observation that Korean tires remain one weak point in the whole package.

I am reposting two photos from the Hyundai Starex thread of my stock Hankook tires that came with my van, two of which suffered damage during the first year of their life.



My first tire suffered a hairline crack on its sidewall, which is the reason I had it and the tire opposite it replaced. I follow the casa-recommended 35 psi tire pressure for Philippine roads, and I check my tire pressure weekly since the Starex is driven on the highway every day.



This second photo shows the high-speed blowout that one of the two remaining Hankooks suffered while my driver was driving along MacArthur Highway. It's a good thing that he didn't lose control of the van. I surrended this second tire to Hyundai Dagupan for their evaluation. I never followed up the issue with them, since I had no interest in using Korean tires again for the time being.

It is not the job of automobile owners like myself to compile "numbers" on how many defects or accidents are caused by one brand of tire or another, so if you ask me for figures to back up the perception that Korean tires are not yet up to par with other makes, then I cannot offer you any. What our responsibility as forum members is, however, is to report on our personal experiences with our vehicles so that the buying public will be more aware and will make better decisions regarding the things that they spend their hard-earned money on.

Hi Mikey,

From the looks of the pictures shown, im sorry but it is not the cause by poor manufacturing but due to cut and impact break.

[mikey177]

Hi Mikey,

From the looks of the pictures shown, im sorry but it is not the cause by poor manufacturing but due to cut and impact break.

Sorry, but I am not that familiar with these terms. Could you please elaborate on what cuts and impact breaks are and what causes them? Thanks.

[salonika]

SilverShadow,

I agree with you wholeheartedly that the quality of Korean automobiles has been steadily improving, which is why I bought a new Starex last year and which is also why I have retained my 2002 Kia Sedona.

However, there is also sufficient basis for pup's observation that Korean tires remain one weak point in the whole package.

I am reposting two photos from the Hyundai Starex thread of my stock Hankook tires that came with my van, two of which suffered damage during the first year of their life.



My first tire suffered a hairline crack on its sidewall, which is the reason I had it and the tire opposite it replaced. I follow the casa-recommended 35 psi tire pressure for Philippine roads, and I check my tire pressure weekly since the Starex is driven on the highway every day.


This second photo shows the high-speed blowout that one of the two remaining Hankooks suffered while my driver was driving along MacArthur Highway. It's a good thing that he didn't lose control of the van. I surrended this second tire to Hyundai Dagupan for their evaluation. I never followed up the issue with them, since I had no interest in using Korean tires again for the time being.

It is not the job of automobile owners like myself to compile "numbers" on how many defects or accidents are caused by one brand of tire or another, so if you ask me for figures to back up the perception that Korean tires are not yet up to par with other makes, then I cannot offer you any. What our responsibility as forum members is, however, is to report on our personal experiences with our vehicles so that the buying public will be more aware and will make better decisions regarding the things that they spend their hard-earned money on.

Hi Mikey,

From the looks of the pictures shown, im sorry but it is not the cause by poor manufacturing but due to cut and impact break.

I have to agree with Mikey re the stock Hankook tires. I have a 2001 LS Carnival and experienced a blowout of the right front tire at 20K kms at North Expressway. Good thing the power steering prevented me from swerving out of lane abruptly.

The next blowout came at 30K on the left rear tire at South Expressway naman. Fixing this was harder since the thread came off, broke the mudguard and wrapped around the brake drum.

I assume then that such occurrences, plus that of other members speak the needed numbers on Hankook tires. As for the cut and impact, I have been traveling the same roads on my Subic-made Yokohama tires and no such misfortune ever happened. In fact, I'm on my second set at 139K now.

[SilverShadow]

I have to agree with Mikey re the stock Hankook tires. I have a 2001 LS Carnival and experienced a blowout of the right front tire at 20K kms at North Expressway. Good thing the power steering prevented me from swerving out of lane abruptly.

The next blowout came at 30K on the left rear tire at South Expressway naman. Fixing this was harder since the thread came off, broke the mudguard and wrapped around the brake drum.

I assume then that such occurrences, plus that of other members speak the needed numbers on Hankook tires. As for the cut and impact, I have been traveling the same roads on my Subic-made Yokohama tires and no such misfortune ever happened. In fact, I'm on my second set at 139K now.

I understand how you both feel regarding the stock Hankook tires fitted, base from your unfortunate experiences.

This I promise all of you, we will report all your concern to the manufacturer. So that they can keep on improving the Hankook tires we use here in our country Drive safely.