2007 Kia Carens [ARCHIVE]

**niky** · June 20th, 2007 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Even Car&Driver noticed that with the first generation Carnival so they put one up on a lift to see. Turns out Kia achieves good rigidity not by sophisticated computer design or exotic materials but by basically overbuilding things. The Carnival looks just like a two wheel drive SUV from underneath.

The Starex did benefit from Mitsubishi engineering.

Well, don't forget the number of model generations between the two cars.

With new standards of rigidity and NVH reduction, it's a given that many new cars are pretty heavy.

That the new Focus weighs about as much as an old Accord, while the Civic is lighter and the Altis lighter still... but the amount of noise and "tinniness" is inversely proportional to their weights, with the Focus being more refined, the Civic less so, and the Corolla coming in last (but not by much versus the Civic).

Of course, I prefer lighter cars... but there's no direct competitor for the Carens here, yet...

**NightWinger** · June 25th, 2007 08:06 AM

Is this car wieght really a issue? I think heavier car give you more comfort in riding. And minus the car weight you get more speed. Am I right?

**minero** · June 25th, 2007 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by oldblue

Hyundai and Kia cars are nicely built nowadays bec. they have one unified labor country to construct them. unlike in japan na iba iba ang mayari ng brands, therefore iba-iba ang management.

yan ang advantage na nakikita ko sa Korea in the next years to come. they may beat Japanese cars sooner than we think.

And all Kias and Hyundais that come to our shore are CBU's from Korea kaya mas maganda ang built quality.

**pup2** · June 25th, 2007 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by NightWinger

Is this car wieght really a issue? I think heavier car give you more comfort in riding. And minus the car weight you get more speed. Am I right?

I believe you are generally correct, sir.

**niky** · June 26th, 2007 04:23 PM

In emergency handling, a heavier car will tend to understeer earlier (witness the Focus... which has exceptional handling, but suffers from understeer when pushed due to its heavy chassis.) This is not a big problem for people carriers.

In stop and go traffic, a heavier car will tend to use more fuel to accelerate up to cruising speed. This can be mitigated by a good transmission ratio selection and the high torque of a turbodiesel.

**yuichi** · June 26th, 2007 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Horsepower

Kalokohan. You obviously haven't driven sa SantaFe yet. Kahit SiR mo di aabot dun. Kaya nga nun mag 200kph++ ng may 7 passengers e.

+10 bro!

my cousin regards SF is an "Expedition Chaser" even with only 2.2l Diesel engine.

sorry OT.

**NightWinger** · June 26th, 2007 10:28 PM

In stop and go traffic, a heavier car will tend to use more fuel to accelerate up to cruising speed. This can be mitigated by a good transmission ratio selection and the high torque of a turbodiesel.

Did light vehicle with bigger engine = more FC?

**niky** · June 27th, 2007 02:21 PM

Depends on the engine and the vehicle. For example, the difference in terms of fuel consumption between the 2.0 and 2.4 CRVs aren't very big... and the difference between the consumption of the 1.6 and 2.0 Lynx is almost non-existent...

But for other vehicles, as long as the engine has enough power for the body, it'll be operating at good efficiency.

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RE: Santa Fe and SiR... the SiR can do 210 - 220 km/h...