Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[rna800]

*jblue2000:

Depende yan on how you define a "major problem." Ung iba kasi a 20k peso repair is already a major problem.

With my 4JJ1, it's not perfect and may mga parts na din akong napapaplitan in my more than 6 yrs of ownership that I wasn't expecting of replacing early. Those were the water pump, timing gear/chain, tensioner, brake shoes (when it wasn't that old back then). Plus the check engine light that lit up on my dash.

For me I don't consider them major problems. Why? Kasi wala naman nangyari sa vehicle ko when they started to malfunction. Very functionable parin. Tulad nung water pump. They replaced that due to trial and error. May umiingay kasi sa engine bay and akala nila un, so they replaced it. Hindi naman pala. Eventually they found out it was the timing gear/chain.

As to parts, I just had an issue with my EGR. It was more of a bitter-sweet experience. More than 1 yr ko ng inaantay ung EGR kaso hindi na dumating dating. Kakaantay ko, I found out na pwede naman palang linisin lang. So pinalinis ko nalang kaya naka save pa ako ng malaki. Sa waiting time ng parts, ewan ko lang pag major repairs pero wala pa naman major repair ung sa akin so hindi ko pa alam.

Other than that, wala pa naman akong bad experience with my dealer, Isuzu Commonwealth. Dati sa Q. Ave ako kaso ung waiting area nila doon ay parang prison so I never had my service from them for more than 4 yrs already.

For your reference, my truck is more than 6 yrs old already and has clocked more than 118k kms. Since very identical ang 4JJ1 & 4Jk1 engines, if I would base my answer if someone would ask me kung hindi ba sirain ang 4JJ1 engine and reliable ba, I would, without any hesitation say, "No, hindi siya siran and very reliable." Pero yan ay sa akin experience lang and I am not speaking for the majority. I would hope na ganyan din ang 4JK1.

[bugoys]

What's the engine code of the 2.5 ltr dmax? Is't the same as the engine of the mu-x?

* jblue- Ours is 7 years (if not almost 7 years), major repair was scv. Hahahah. Had a kalampag problem, thought it was the rear wheel bearing, changed it to a new one, but andun pa din, as it turned out it was just the stepboard bracket hitting the chassis when turning/flexing. Apart from that the usual change oil, fuel filter, air cleaner, fr/rr shock absorber, leaf spring bushing. Albeit rack end is soon to be replaced, plus all 5 tires.

In a nutshell, its heck of a reliable car for us ha, and maybe rna800 as well. Heheheh

Just a question pala, when buying a new car, regardless of brand, if on the scheduled day of pick up, you saw some flaws on the car, i.e. a dent, or paint fading, malalim na gasgas, broken interior trim etc, can you request for a new one, given they (dealership) have in stock of the same color/trim? Nag ka kwentuhan kasi kami yesterday, and napag usapan re buying a new car.

Btw, happy holidays pala mga boss!

[jblue2000]

*rna800 - What I would define as a major problems is yung i-stranded ka nga vehicle mo t hindi ka na makakauwi which is a MAJOR BUMMER for a new vehicle or a vehicle that you are owning for less than 5 years.. 100000++ with no major problem is a winner for me. At expected ito dapat sa pickup since pickup ito dapat +1 ito na mas reliable pa sa other vehicle like cars or minivans.. thanks for sharing sa mga naging issues mo at east kung mangyari sssakin yun maalala ko yung naikwento mo at hindi ako mag papanic mode haha.. Mukang sulit na yung pickup nyo since 100000+ na ang mileage.. kung baga sa college.. graduate na. at duon naman kayo sa 10 year reliability test..

*bugoy - Bakit po nakalampag, nalubak po ba kayo ng malakas?. kung ganun at least naman yung kalampag problem is an incident at hindi nangyari on it's own. Thanks din a advice for buying new cars. I'll be strict on that pag dumating yung unit na ibibigay saakin. Glad to know reliable ang D-Max at wala pa naman akong nakikitang usok sa discussion dito regarding it's reliability.

[tisoy555]

mga sir goo day, iam here in mla for the holiday season. saan kaya meron stock ng headlight and tailight cover na carbon fiber finish or black na accessory for dmax 2014. out of stock dun sa mga napag tanongan ko nag ad sa online shops. wala mabilan sa iloilo e. tia sa mga maka tulong.

[rna800]

*jblue2000: For me pag umabot na ng at least 100k kms and more than 6 yrs already na walang masyadong issues, yan ang basehan ko na ok yung vehicle. Yan kasing first 3 to 4 yrs, yan ang prime niya. Halos walang problems sa time frame na yan kahit lagi mo pang gamitin. But the more it rakes mileage and the more it ages, diyan mati test kung durable ba. I-keep mo pa yan for 7, 8, 9 yrs, mas lalo mo pang malalaman ang reliability niya.

Nung binili ko Dmax ko way back in 08, wala din akong idea kung ok ba or hindi. Puro sabi sabi lang din ang naririnig ko. The way I see it, I will never know unless I own one. Yun pa ung time na buhay pa ung PATI thread. Sobrang problematic daw ung engine ng Trooper na un. So I didn't know my truck's fate whenever I choose the Dmax. Fast forward to present, I am thankful that I didn't suffer the same fate and my truck is performing very well up to this day. Kaya nga I always share my FIRST HAND experiences with my truck for the benefit of other owners on what their Dmax might possibly encounter in the future. At least yan ay hindi sinabi ni ganito, sinabi ni ganyan, narinig ko kay ganito, narinig ko kay ganyan, ung sa friend ko, etc, kasi yan ay experiences ko talaga.

[bugoys]

*rna800 - What I would define as a major problems is yung i-stranded ka nga vehicle mo t hindi ka na makakauwi which is a MAJOR BUMMER for a new vehicle or a vehicle that you are owning for less than 5 years.. 100000++ with no major problem is a winner for me. At expected ito dapat sa pickup since pickup ito dapat +1 ito na mas reliable pa sa other vehicle like cars or minivans.. thanks for sharing sa mga naging issues mo at east kung mangyari sssakin yun maalala ko yung naikwento mo at hindi ako mag papanic mode haha.. Mukang sulit na yung pickup nyo since 100000+ na ang mileage.. kung baga sa college.. graduate na. at duon naman kayo sa 10 year reliability test..

*bugoy - Bakit po nakalampag, nalubak po ba kayo ng malakas?. kung ganun at least naman yung kalampag problem is an incident at hindi nangyari on it's own. Thanks din a advice for buying new cars. I'll be strict on that pag dumating yung unit na ibibigay saakin. Glad to know reliable ang D-Max at wala pa naman akong nakikitang usok sa discussion dito regarding it's reliability.

* jblue- Shockingly frustrating, it was just a loose bracket of the step board. Probably from frequent stepping, specially pag nililinis yung kotse. With the rack end naman, I guess its due to wear and tear na din. I'm not the one driving this truck for 4 + years, it was my dad (hindi ganon kaingat sa mga lubak, compared to mine). I've only driven it for more than 2 years na, based abroad kasi ako before, and sobrang ingat ko sa lubak, kung pwede lang buhatin nalang yung kotse, wag lang maidaan sa lubak. Hahahah.

Also, we're eyeing din to buy a new truck by next year. We're looking at Hilux, Isuzu and Navara, though the latter would be expensive daw, maybe the most expensive on the segment based from what I've read sa thread nila. So we're down to two, Hilux 3.0 is expensive for us, sa 2.5 naman, baka "mabitin"? Haven't test driven a 2.5 d4d eh. Baka next year na, after the holidays. Isuzu on the other hand is reliable and way cheaper than the 3.0, but priced closely on the 2.5 d4d.

My gripe on both truck is, baka mag full model change na ang Hilux (news is this year), and mag mmc ang dmax (wala pa naman daw as per an agent I spoke to). If ever that would happen, sobrang sayang/sakit naman for the Hilux, and medyo okay lang pag sa Dmax, because minor lang ang changes, unless they'd slap in the vgs engine, ayun ang sobrang ouch din. Hahahah. Sorry ang haba.

[jblue2000]

Thanks for sharing guys. I already got my new D-Max LS. I haven't owned a pickup this big before so I can't really compare it with other brands, but I'm loving it so far. Ginagamay ko pa ang response ng engine at clutch feel. Mataas kasi yung clutch bago mag engage. (I choosed the MT to avoid AT problems in the future although wala pa naman akong nakikitang AT problems ng D-Max dito)... Also, yung brakes naninibago ako kasi malakas (which is good). Also, learning to drive it economically. Malakas ang makina.. more than I need for street driving and close naman ang Top Speeds ng D-max to it's peers so no complaints with the engine.. as long as it's reliable.. not planning to drive excessive speeds baka tumaob lang ako.. dami kong nakikitang tumataob na SUVs and Pickups (t least 3 or 4 times a year.. didn't heared it from news but I actually saw the scene what more yung mga hindi ko nakikita) like these like last Dec 27 may nakita nanaman akong pickup na naka tayo patigilid (I think Navarra) sa kalsada on the way to Laiya Batangas.. makes you think bakit sila tumataob ng ganon on flat road. Ginagawa kasing parang kotse hehe.. I have other means for speeding way faster hehe. So far I'm happy with the consumption at mukang hindi naman fuel guzzler.

[Djerms]

The dmax's comfort zone is really in uphill climbs. Lakas ng makina niyan down low revs.

[rna800]

*jblue2000: Congratulations on your Dmax, sir! Hopefully it will serve you well. Maninibago ka talaga sa pickup at the start coz of its length and width lalo kung galing ka sa car pero you will get used to it eventually.

[jblue2000]

Thanks! Went to Nasugbu, Batangas yesterday.. There was a HEAVY traffic in Tagaytay area going there and going home. Thanks to the D-max's comfort, all my passengers are not fatigued with the D-Max's seats. Very comfortable even at journeys that takes long times. Anyway I read the manual sabi duon is every 20000kms or every 2yrs (which ever comes first) ang replacement ng oil and oil filter for our engine (4jj1). I think that's great. Pero may initial replacement ba ng oil? Parang wala akong nakikita sa manual.. Or baka hindi ko pa nakikita?

[bugoys]

Just checked out the new dmax sa showroom. Dami nga improvements over the prior model. Like, the bigger intercooler, relocation of oil filter, front suspension using coilover, a pillar grab handle, 60-40? split rear seats, steering audio controls and leather seats on the ls model only. The instrument panels are still optitron, though yung H20 temp at fuel gauge ay computerized/digital na, plus ang lambot ng clutch! Hahahah. The only negative for me is the relocation of the ecu, its now placed inside the dashboard as per the SA, I spoke with. Hinde na accessible unlike nung previous gen, wherein its located on the engine bay or easy accessibility.

Planning to book a test drive with my father para ma feel din niya yung ride.

*jblue- Does yours come with free back up sensor? I've checked sa display nila its included, don't know if add on or standard. Also, what's the mileage when you got yours?
Also, I dont think its recommended to wait for 20k or 2 years for a oil change, sobrang tagal naman ata nun. Sa pms, every 5k-10k alam ko pinapalitan yun eh.
As per some posts, palit lahat ng fluids on the first 1.5k pms. then every pms, palit oil and oil filter.

Please correct me if I'm wrong ha.

Also to all new dmax owner, did you avail of the rustproof option ng casa? Sabi ng SA, hinde pa daw naka rust proof yun, but I doubt na wala man lang treatment for anti rust ung body, because I think those are standard na ata. Gusto ko kasi makita yung body color sa fr/rr wheel well, ang linis kasi tignan eh.


Thank you! and Enjoy your new ride!

[jblue2000]

Just checked out the new dmax sa showroom. Dami nga improvements over the prior model. Like, the bigger intercooler, relocation of oil filter, front suspension using coilover, a pillar grab handle, 60-40? split rear seats, steering audio controls and leather seats on the ls model only. The instrument panels are still optitron, though yung H20 temp at fuel gauge ay computerized/digital na, plus ang lambot ng clutch! Hahahah. The only negative for me is the relocation of the ecu, its now placed inside the dashboard as per the SA, I spoke with. Hinde na accessible unlike nung previous gen, wherein its located on the engine bay or easy accessibility.

Planning to book a test drive with my father para ma feel din niya yung ride.

*jblue- Does yours come with free back up sensor? I've checked sa display nila its included, don't know if add on or standard. Also, what's the mileage when you got yours?
Also, I dont think its recommended to wait for 20k or 2 years for a oil change, sobrang tagal naman ata nun. Sa pms, every 5k-10k alam ko pinapalitan yun eh.
As per some posts, palit lahat ng fluids on the first 1.5k pms. then every pms, palit oil and oil filter.

Please correct me if I'm wrong ha.

Also to all new dmax owner, did you avail of the rustproof option ng casa? Sabi ng SA, hinde pa daw naka rust proof yun, but I doubt na wala man lang treatment for anti rust ung body, because I think those are standard na ata. Gusto ko kasi makita yung body color sa fr/rr wheel well, ang linis kasi tignan eh.


Thank you! and Enjoy your new ride!

Thanks!

Nope. No backup sensor. Haven't noted of the initial mileage. But it was not zero when I got it.
Yeah matagal nga ang 20k or 2 years sa change oil. Pero, bakit yun ang nakalagay sa manual.. I mean.. hindi naman sila siguro maglalagay ng hindi totoo sa manual right? But I guess better safe than sorry. But still.. Pero minention nga sakin 1500kms yung unang change oil service .. then next is 5000kms.

Hindi ko in-avail yung Rustproof option. Wasn't mentioned to me at hindi ko rin naalala haha..

[Djerms]

Bro you might have read the manual wrong. Your first (all fluids except radiator and brake) is at 1500kms. Next is 5k and every thereafter.

[rna800]

*jblue: 20k kms OR 2 yrs, whichever comes first ang change oil and oil filter!?! I will never do that with mine. Masyadong matagal yan sa sobrang harsh ng condition sa Pinas. Even with FS oil, 8.5k kms ko nga pinapalitan, mineral every 5k. Kung hindi masyadong gamit, kahit 1x a yr manlang mapalitan.

[rna800]

*bugoys: May medyo nananalo na ba na pickup in your hearts?hehe Antayin niyo nalang maglabasan ang lahat ng all new bago kayo mag decide. Mukhang magaganda din ang design ng iba. Ung Hilux lang ang mukhang wala pang all new. Ung all new Strada hindi ko alam kung maganda or hindi. At first glance hindi ako nagagandahan then as I gaze at it, gumaganda siya.hehe Medyo off lang ung design ng bed. Ung all new Navara gwaping din. Ung facelifted na Ranger mukhang maganda din.

[jblue2000]

*Djerms & rna800 - I flipped some pages over.. meron duon "Under Extreme conditions".. like "Driving on Dusty Roads, Repeated /short Trips and Driving in Extreme Cold Weather. 5000kms. I guess 20000kms is for relaxed long highway drives. I would have to fall sa 10000kms since I will not drive this everyday and for out of town use for City and Highway driving. Not on bumpy mountain grounds.. This is for the 4JJ1 engine.

[bugoys]

*rna800- Hahahah. Actually if ako lang masusunod, hihintayin ko talaga mag silabasan ang mga new models and test drive it, kaso kailangan na talga bumili eh. Though 2 lang talaga ang nasa list ko, Isuzu and Toyota, the latter have yet to come out if yung new model ang kukunin. Pang negosyo kasi namin ang pick up at hinde ito lifestyle vehicle for us, thus we need a work horse talaga. I'm sure all of the truck in the segment can be quite a work horse if needed.

*jblue- Thanks man! Baka sinama na ng dealer yung rustproof? Did you get yours from Ayala owned dealership, or sa Inteco?

*Djerms- Did you avail of the rustproof, when you got your new dmax? Thank you.

[tisoy555]

baka meron interested na naka Dmax LT na i-swap grill and hood lining nya na black to chrome ng LS ko, no additional cost. sa Panay island nga lng.

meron ako nakita naka LT sa Kalibo tapos nak dress up ng chrome ang head and tailights niya, bagay na bagay chrome grill dun.

[rna800]

*bugoys: Di Hilux naman para brother from another dealer ng Dmax mo.hehe

Ang alam ko yang rustproof is done before the vehicle is released. Wala pa akong pina rustproof na vehicle namin. Baka undercoat ang iniisip mo kasi yan ung pinapa spray at an added cost. Or baka naman "extra" rustproof yan na pampadami sa "freebies". Yun tipong kunwari ipapa rustproof pero hindi naman pala kasi rustproofed na.hehe

[rna800]

*jblue: 10k change oil interval is ok if you use a quality oil and quality oil filter. Pag OEM lang, it's up to you pero ako since OEM gamit ko, hanggang 8.5k kms lang. Meron Engine and Fuel System Talk/Mineral, semi synthetic or fully synthetic thread that you can read for more info on oil and oil filter.

Mas maganda talaga pag FS oil ang gamitin vs mineral kasi commonrail na ang 4JJ1 engine. Na explain na ni sir dmac aka hinDmaxsiado yan noon kung bakit.

Ito wala sa manual pero I have practiced changing my fuel filter every 10k kms knowing the fuel quality in our country even if I use Unioil. Kahit sinasabi ng SA na pwede pa, I always insist. Mura lang naman un.