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    #2041
    Quote Originally Posted by bugoys View Post
    *jblue, piloski- Wow! Ganda ng reviews niyo ah. Excited tuloy ako i test drive ulit yung unit. Hahahah. Wala kasi ako/kaming comparison sa ibang unit. Walang naka pick up sa village namin (meron xwind at adventure, no contest na yun), even sa mga relatives namin. We're still looking at the dmax and hilux din. But i think dmax din ulit ang bagsak namin. Heheheh.
    Nag narrow down din choice ko between Hilux and Dmax.. Basically, pinili ko yung D-Max kasi mas updated design kaysa Hilux. At hindi ko rin naman mahihintay yung New Strada at Hilux kasi kailangan ko na talaga ng new vehicle..

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    #2042
    *bugoys: Good to know at least tumaas na ang fuel reading mo. Sana hindi na yan bumaba. Have you tried a full tank method? For sure magkaiba yan.

    Here was my trifecta last night.

    Diesel in Unioil is at 23.70/liter. Less than 1100 for a full tank

    Then this is the FC reading on my dash. I couldn't believe that it went up again.

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    I computed via FT method when I got home and I got 12.125 kms/liter. Pataas ng pataas ang FC reading while pababa ng pababa ang price ng diesel.hehe

    Gwapo nga ung bagong Navara, sir. Maganda din ang pricing.


    *tisoy555: Hindi ko naman na experience yang mahirap isara. Siguro dahil nasanay na ako sa force so it would close properly.

    Yes malakas talaga ang pag engage ng aircon clutch. May "tug" sound siya.


    *piloski: Hopefully that would be one of the many good experiences that you will have with your Dmax, sir.

    Regarding the kinda restricted acceleration, just observe after the 1st PMS and see if it changes.

    We have a neighbor na puro pickup ang vehicles nila, T, M, F badges, honestly hindi ko ma determine kung sino ang pinaka tahimik kasi halos magkaka pareho ng tunog.hehe


    *jblue2000: Maybe due to the insulation or sa condition ng engine. Pero pag pinagtabi mo sila, halos magkaka sing ingay lang. I have a Super Grandia and when idle, halos mag kasing tunog lang sila ng Dmax. If ever there is a difference, I think mas maingay ng konti ang Dmax due to the timing gears.

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    #2043
    *rna- Its back at 8.7kms/l. Heheheh. Im sure its the oil. I'll probably try other 15w-40, or revert to 10w-30. Or just stay with Delvac. Bahala na. Hahahah. Pero when I do ft method, its at 8.9-9.23kms/l.

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    #2044
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    I've been there, sir bugoys. Nakaka inis talaga pag ganyan ang FC reading mo. Diyan kami nagtatawan ng SA ko sa Isuzu Commonwealth kasi parang V8 ang FC reading.hehe.

    Ung akin, I can't wait to have it checked. Umiingay na ulit kasi ung dati kong narinig na sound and they found out it was the tensioner.

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    #2045
    Heheheh. It takes some getting used to. But i'll probably revert to 10w-30, or Shell r4x. Lately napansin ko lakas ng vibration sa 2100 rpm, at any gear, basta it passed 2100, but after that smooth na. Weird. Medyo oc kasi ako sa kotse, kaya dami ko napapansin.

    Tensioner bearing ba yung culprit nung sayo? Or its a totally different thing? If its the former, nasa magkano ba yun? Mahirap talaga pag nag kaka edad na ang sasakyan.

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    Heheheh. It takes some getting used to. But i'll probably revert to 10w-30, or Shell r4x. Lately napansin ko lakas ng vibration sa 2100 rpm, at any gear, basta it passed 2100, but after that smooth na. Weird. Medyo oc kasi ako sa kotse, kaya dami ko napapansin.

    Tensioner bearing ba yung culprit nung sayo? Or its a totally different thing? If its the former, nasa magkano ba yun? Mahirap talaga pag nag kaka edad na ang sasakyan.

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    #2046
    I was able to test my Dmax LS AT like sir piloski did, 0 to 100 kph from standstill point. It clocked about 11++sec on AT mode and on MT mode about 10++sec, not bad for a pick up truck. I doing this to check if there is a problem with my turbo coz as i mentioned para malakas sipol nya. But if this is the case, sumipol na lng sya ng sumipol hamgang gusto nya. Hehehehe. So far iam well satisfied with this ute, its ride, fuel efficiency and power when u need it. Planning to change wider tires to 265 to have a more stable ride into curves.

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    #2047
    I really wonder, why they slap on a 245 tire on the dmax, wherein almost all the competition is at 265, except I think the Navara which is the same if not lower.

    *tisoy- Sir, let us know if your fuel mileage, acceleration, 0-100kph change after you change your tire to a larger one.

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    I really wonder, why they slap on a 245 tire on the dmax, wherein almost all the competition is at 265, except I think the Navara which is the same if not lower.

    *tisoy- Sir, let us know if your fuel mileage, acceleration, 0-100kph change after you change your tire to a larger one.

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    #2048
    Have driven straight 450kms, with only wiwi breaks along the route here in southern Negros, bilib talaga ako sa riding comfort nito Dmax LS 2014, wala stress sa katawan. MID fuel avg 12.5klm/ltr.with Petron diesel.

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    #2049
    Its already 2015... Kelan kaya lalabas ang dmax with vgs sa bansa natin? (4jk1-tcx or better yet the 4jj1-tcx). If isuzu ph can do it with the mu-x, bat di kayang gawin sa d-max...

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    #2050
    Most likely after 2016 when Euro IV diesel will be required by law.

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    #2051
    *bugoys: I still haven't had my truck checked. Pero based from the past, most likely tensioner un. If not, it might be the timing chain.

    Ung sa tensioner wala silang pinalitan coz when they changed the oil, nawala ung tunog. Ung sa timing chain assembly, nasa 18k+ ata un if my memory serves me right, nung pinalitan. I don't have any idea on that tensioner bearing.

    Basta ang tunog niya is mag start siya na parang garalgal then swishing and ung sound na, I don't know how to fully explain it pero if you pedal a bike and you free wheel it then pedal backwards, parang ganon ung tunog. Wala namang difference sa takbo pero naririnig mo un.

    Ganyan talaga pag nagkaka edad ang vehicle pero ang maganda naman sa truck natin, or my truck for that matter, up to this day wala padin siyang binibigay na sakit ng ulo sa akin. Wala ngang nasisira, well except doon sa tumutunog na un.hehe

    About a couple of weeks ago, umakyat ang FC reading ko to 10.7 kms/liter. FT method was 12+, close to 13. Kaso nung nag Valentine's day and nag umpisang topakin ang DPWH & Maynilad at nagsira ng mga daan na maayos naman at makinis while causing bottleneck everywhere, nasa 10.4 kms/liter nalang. Hindi ko pa na FT method kasi nagpa gas up na ako before pa maubos when I heard that fuel prices will go up.


    *tisoy555: Glad to know that you are enjoying your truck. For sure mas mataas pa yan sa 12.5 kms/liter if you do the FT method. Sarap ng ganyang reading. I remember when my Dmax was still new. 1k+ kms in 1 full tank. Pero hindi ko na naulit.hehe

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    #2052
    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    *bugoys: I still haven't had my truck checked. Pero based from the past, most likely tensioner un. If not, it might be the timing chain.

    Ung sa tensioner wala silang pinalitan coz when they changed the oil, nawala ung tunog. Ung sa timing chain assembly, nasa 18k+ ata un if my memory serves me right, nung pinalitan. I don't have any idea on that tensioner bearing.

    Basta ang tunog niya is mag start siya na parang garalgal then swishing and ung sound na, I don't know how to fully explain it pero if you pedal a bike and you free wheel it then pedal backwards, parang ganon ung tunog. Wala namang difference sa takbo pero naririnig mo un.

    Ganyan talaga pag nagkaka edad ang vehicle pero ang maganda naman sa truck natin, or my truck for that matter, up to this day wala padin siyang binibigay na sakit ng ulo sa akin. Wala ngang nasisira, well except doon sa tumutunog na un.hehe

    About a couple of weeks ago, umakyat ang FC reading ko to 10.7 kms/liter. FT method was 12+, close to 13. Kaso nung nag Valentine's day and nag umpisang topakin ang DPWH & Maynilad at nagsira ng mga daan na maayos naman at makinis while causing bottleneck everywhere, nasa 10.4 kms/liter nalang. Hindi ko pa na FT method kasi nagpa gas up na ako before pa maubos when I heard that fuel prices will go up.
    I see. Medyo complicated pala. I thought yung simpleng tensioner assembly lang. Heheheh. I hope ma sort out yung sa truck mo.

    Btw, we ended up getting another dmax! Heheheh. Still practicality trumphs.

    Test driven the NP300 4x2, it was over all a very nice truck, ride is better compared nga sa leaf spring, but the "bareness" of the interior was a bit downside (no biggie though), plus its third brake lamp is curved on the roof and the antenna is on a fixed? position on the rear of the roof. Major problem for us, since we put steel pipes, bars on the roof, thus making it very prone to damage. Power is way better than dmax.

    Test driven the Hilux 3.0 as well, now this one is at par with the dmax in interior features, sans the leather seats, and driver powered seat. One thing that pushed me to the dmax closer was the ride. May katagtagan nga compared sa dmax natin, and I worry that if my parents will ride or drive it, they'd feel stressed due to harshness of the ride. But the nvh is better compared to the dmax. Especially when closing the doors, there's a slight cabin noise, whereas sa dmax, medyo mas malakas, kumbaga sa babae, Heart E. is Hilux and Marian R. is Dmax, you get my point (again no biggie). Power is on a different level. But then again, we'd be getting just the 2.5 not the 3.0 though as per paper, torque is the same.

    As they say, there's no replacement for displacement, kaya mas gusto ng father ko na 3.0 dmax kesa sa 2.5 ng hilux, even if the latter has more torque. Ayaw naman nya ng 3.0 4x4 na hilux, kasi hinde naman namin magagamit yung feature na yun. Plus mas mahal nga. Heheheh

    So ayun, another dmax sa family namin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    *bugoys: I still haven't had my truck checked. Pero based from the past, most likely tensioner un. If not, it might be the timing chain.

    Ung sa tensioner wala silang pinalitan coz when they changed the oil, nawala ung tunog. Ung sa timing chain assembly, nasa 18k+ ata un if my memory serves me right, nung pinalitan. I don't have any idea on that tensioner bearing.

    Basta ang tunog niya is mag start siya na parang garalgal then swishing and ung sound na, I don't know how to fully explain it pero if you pedal a bike and you free wheel it then pedal backwards, parang ganon ung tunog. Wala namang difference sa takbo pero naririnig mo un.

    Ganyan talaga pag nagkaka edad ang vehicle pero ang maganda naman sa truck natin, or my truck for that matter, up to this day wala padin siyang binibigay na sakit ng ulo sa akin. Wala ngang nasisira, well except doon sa tumutunog na un.hehe

    About a couple of weeks ago, umakyat ang FC reading ko to 10.7 kms/liter. FT method was 12+, close to 13. Kaso nung nag Valentine's day and nag umpisang topakin ang DPWH & Maynilad at nagsira ng mga daan na maayos naman at makinis while causing bottleneck everywhere, nasa 10.4 kms/liter nalang. Hindi ko pa na FT method kasi nagpa gas up na ako before pa maubos when I heard that fuel prices will go up.
    I see. Medyo complicated pala. I thought yung simpleng tensioner assembly lang. Heheheh. I hope ma sort out yung sa truck mo.

    Btw, we ended up getting another dmax! Heheheh. Still practicality trumphs.

    Test driven the NP300 4x2, it was over all a very nice truck, ride is better compared nga sa leaf spring, but the "bareness" of the interior was a bit downside (no biggie though), plus its third brake lamp is curved on the roof and the antenna is on a fixed? position on the rear of the roof. Major problem for us, since we put steel pipes, bars on the roof, thus making it very prone to damage. Power is way better than dmax.

    Test driven the Hilux 3.0 as well, now this one is at par with the dmax in interior features, sans the leather seats, and driver powered seat. One thing that pushed me to the dmax closer was the ride. May katagtagan nga compared sa dmax natin, and I worry that if my parents will ride or drive it, they'd feel stressed due to harshness of the ride. But the nvh is better compared to the dmax. Especially when closing the doors, there's a slight cabin noise, whereas sa dmax, medyo mas malakas, kumbaga sa babae, Heart E. is Hilux and Marian R. is Dmax, you get my point (again no biggie). Power is on a different level. But then again, we'd be getting just the 2.5 not the 3.0 though as per paper, torque is the same.

    As they say, there's no replacement for displacement, kaya mas gusto ng father ko na 3.0 dmax kesa sa 2.5 ng hilux, even if the latter has more torque. Ayaw naman nya ng 3.0 4x4 na hilux, kasi hinde naman namin magagamit yung feature na yun. Plus mas mahal nga. Heheheh

    So ayun, another dmax sa family namin.

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    Very nice, sir bugoys. Now you have another Dmax is your stable. You know what is the best for you, so you followed your heart. Baka mas mahal mo na ang bago mong kabayo.hehe

    Nasa dealer yung Dmax ko for 120k PMS.

    Hindi naman complicated ung problem na un or maybe because I have been there before and I know that despite that, the truck is still very able to perform and it will not fail me wherever and whenever. In fact January ko pa ata narinig un and some 2k+ kms after, ngayon ko lang dinala kasi isinabay ko sa PMS. Nasa 121k+ kms na siya ngayon. Kung hindi lang ung PMS, hindi ko pa idadala.hehe

    Im gonna update kung ano ang nag cause but as per the mechanic who has heard it before, he said baka nag loose ung tensioner. We'll see...

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    #2054
    Thanks. Though hinde pa namin nakukuha sa dealer, wala pang oras eh.

    Ours has this slight vibration everytime it hits 2100 rpm, past that hinde na masyado ramdam. Is't the turbo kaya? Or just plain engine support or just the oil? Can't remember I had that issue before cleaning the egr, if not, baka sa pagkakalinins ko ng egr, last move was that procedure. Hahahah. Tsk. I'll have it check sa suking auto shop or sa casa, when schedule permits. Hinde kasi masyado gamitin lately ung truck, panay ang commute ko, kakatamad kasi mag drive.

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    Thanks. Though hinde pa namin nakukuha sa dealer, wala pang oras eh.

    Ours has this slight vibration everytime it hits 2100 rpm, past that hinde na masyado ramdam. Is't the turbo kaya? Or just plain engine support or just the oil? Can't remember I had that issue before cleaning the egr, if not, baka sa pagkakalinins ko ng egr, last move was that procedure. Hahahah. Tsk. I'll have it check sa suking auto shop or sa casa, when schedule permits. Hinde kasi masyado gamitin lately ung truck, panay ang commute ko, kakatamad kasi mag drive.

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    #2055
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    Paanong vibration when it hits 2.1k rpm? Bigla nalang siyang magba vibrate? Baka it has something to do the the timing gear or chains too kasi sa tingin ko kaya mas ramdam ang vibration sa Dmax, even the clatter sound, is because of those. I don't think it's turbo kasi pag turbo siya, it would go into a limp mode and uusok ng husto kasi hindi na maka takbo ang truck mo. Mas possible pa na injectors (ouch!).hehe Sa EGR naman, I don't see any connection on how it can make it vibrate. It's more of a restricted acceleration feel when the valve gets clogged but at that point, the CEL would lit up.

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    #2056
    Actually, its not more of a vibration, its kind of rattle inside the cabin, I can feel the steering column/wheel rattle a little when it pass by 2100rpm. Maybe its due to higher rpm na kaya nag rarattle, I don't know. Or baka engine support. Ka oc-han ko lang kasi eh. Heheheh.

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    I'd be damned, sir.

    Kakakuha ko lang ng Dmax ko from its 120k PMS. Nawala naman ung sound and wala naman silang ginawa other than the usual stuff like change oil, filter, fuel filter, transmission oil, etc. Less than 13k ang inabot.

    But after reading your post, nahawa ata ako.hehe Napansin ko medyo mas malakas ang vibration or rattle niya after ng service. Ipapa check ko nga sa Monday at baka engine support. Sana hindi something pricey ang sira like those tranny and injectors.

    Pero ung akin hindi cruising speed. It's more on low speed/low rpm. Let's say when I reverse, the rattle is more than the usual instead of a smooth movement. Another is when deceleration say from 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd and from the there to 1st, I could hear it rattle, even if I put it in neutral and mawawala lang siya once the vehicle has come to a full stop. If from 1st to 2nd to 3rd and so on, hindi naman siya nagra rattle. Tuwing deceleration lang.

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    #2058
    my 4jh1 malapit na mg 300kms takbo..normal ata vibration..lol akin din meron..pero ramdam ko siya mag biglang apak ng gas biglang bilis,,so iniisip ko sliding clutch na..hehehe ipon muna..doas anyone here nag install na ng boost gauge and boost controller??dmax pa rin talaga sobra tibay..mga boss member din ba kayo sa fb ng dmax club?parang konti na lang active dito ah..hahaha

    *tisoy555 normal yan sa aircon paps..ganyan din reklamo ko before..pinalitan lahat sa akin ganun pa rin..kinocontest ko lang now is hl and tunog sa pinto pag umabot na ako ng 160..sali kayo sa fb page mga paps..andun pinost ko lahat ng problem ng rt50 ride height problem din

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    #2059
    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    I'd be damned, sir.

    Kakakuha ko lang ng Dmax ko from its 120k PMS. Nawala naman ung sound and wala naman silang ginawa other than the usual stuff like change oil, filter, fuel filter, transmission oil, etc. Less than 13k ang inabot.

    But after reading your post, nahawa ata ako.hehe Napansin ko medyo mas malakas ang vibration or rattle niya after ng service. Ipapa check ko nga sa Monday at baka engine support. Sana hindi something pricey ang sira like those tranny and injectors.

    Pero ung akin hindi cruising speed. It's more on low speed/low rpm. Let's say when I reverse, the rattle is more than the usual instead of a smooth movement. Another is when deceleration say from 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd and from the there to 1st, I could hear it rattle, even if I put it in neutral and mawawala lang siya once the vehicle has come to a full stop. If from 1st to 2nd to 3rd and so on, hindi naman siya nagra rattle. Tuwing deceleration lang.
    Hahahah. Sobra kasi ang alaga sa sasakyan, kaya it pains me to hear anything unusual from her. Heheheh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rna800 View Post
    I'd be damned, sir.

    Kakakuha ko lang ng Dmax ko from its 120k PMS. Nawala naman ung sound and wala naman silang ginawa other than the usual stuff like change oil, filter, fuel filter, transmission oil, etc. Less than 13k ang inabot.

    But after reading your post, nahawa ata ako.hehe Napansin ko medyo mas malakas ang vibration or rattle niya after ng service. Ipapa check ko nga sa Monday at baka engine support. Sana hindi something pricey ang sira like those tranny and injectors.

    Pero ung akin hindi cruising speed. It's more on low speed/low rpm. Let's say when I reverse, the rattle is more than the usual instead of a smooth movement. Another is when deceleration say from 5th, 4th, 3rd, 2nd and from the there to 1st, I could hear it rattle, even if I put it in neutral and mawawala lang siya once the vehicle has come to a full stop. If from 1st to 2nd to 3rd and so on, hindi naman siya nagra rattle. Tuwing deceleration lang.
    Hahahah. Sobra kasi ang alaga sa sasakyan, kaya it pains me to hear anything unusual from her. Heheheh.

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    #2060
    Yes, if you are the one using the vehicle, alam mo agad pag may mga ibang tunog.

    Brought the truck to the dealer last Sat kasi iba talaga ung rattle na naririnig ko. Good thing the mechanic whom I always call in that dealer heard it when he did the test drive. Kasi I don't know how I will explain it kung paano lumalabas. Pati siya puzzled kung saan exactly so he said that I should leave it there on Mon so he can further check kung saan and paano lumalabas ung sound.

    Initially he thought the release bearing. Then after the test drive and narinig niya, akala niya ung cover ng engine. Then he checked for loose screws and the grille, meron pa siyang inaalog sa ilalim. So talagang puzzled na siya kung saan nanggagaling ung sound.

    Hopefully it's not something pricey. Haay gastos ulit.hehe If there is any consolation, more than 1 yr naman ata siyang PMS lang ang pinaka gastos kasi walang nasisira.

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