BEWARE: HYUNDAI's USELESS 5-YEAR warranty!! [MERGED]

[yourman_2nd]

* Black Hornet: SIr saan casa yan inyo and ano po Hyundai vehicle nyo? at ano na po yang na claim nyo under warranty? thanks.

[BKR5]

Sir iceman101 if it's ok I would like to clarify and add some points based from regularly reading the BITOG forums. Regular oil( mineral,Dino) is considered grp 2 base oil and advances in additive tech are of good quality that 10K kms can be achieved depending on the usage( severe=traffic city driving,short distance,towing: regular=long highway driving) Fully Synthetic oil (FS) is considered grp 3,4,5 in the US and only grp 4,5 in germany. Why? Bcos germany's law's do not allow oil companies to call their oil FS if not from grp 4,5 basestock which is PAO for 4 and Ester for 5. 3 is hydrocracked crude( mineral) oil and in the US castrol won a court battle with exxonmobil to call grp 3 hydrocracked basestock which have similar characteristics as grp 4,5 to be called FS. Now which to choose, grp 4,5 oils are generally expensive but have the ability to go the distance, mobil's EP (xtended performance) oils are guaranteed by mobil to go 15K kms. FS oils which are a little more in price than regular oils are to me grp 3

[BKR5]

Sir iceman101 if it's ok I would like to clarify and add some points based from regularly reading the BITOG forums. Regular oil( mineral,Dino) is considered grp 2 base oil and advances in additive tech are of good quality that 10K kms can be achieved depending on the usage( severe=traffic city driving,short distance,towing: regular=long highway driving) Fully Synthetic oil (FS) is considered grp 3,4,5 in the US and only grp 4,5 in germany. Why? Bcos germany's law's do not allow oil companies to call their oil FS if not from grp 4,5 basestock which is PAO for 4 and Ester for 5. 3 is hydrocracked crude( mineral) oil and in the US castrol won a court battle with exxonmobil to call grp 3hydrocracked basestock which have similar characteristics as grp 4,5 to be called FS. Now which to choose, grp 4,5 oils are generally expensive but have the ability to go the distance, mobil's EP (xtended
performance) oils are guaranteed by mobil to go 15K kms. FS oils which are a little more in price than regular oils are to me grp 3. It all boils down to what fits your budget. For more info visit bob is the oil guy forum.

[BKR5]

Sorry for the double post using a itouch must have pressed something.

[sagingsaba]

I visited hyundai pasig. Spoke wd a customer who was xhecking out the new sta fe. Sabi nya by mileage ang service ng pasig svc cntr.hindi by months.

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[Starex_Gold]

I visited hyundai pasig. Spoke wd a customer who was xhecking out the new sta fe. Sabi nya by mileage ang service ng pasig svc cntr.hindi by months.

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Kalokohan naman kasi talaga kung every 3 months ang PMS lalo na kung fully synthetic oil pa ang ginamit. Nasa owner na naman yan kung magpapa-sindak sila sa inutil na service adviser o yung service adviser ang sisindakin nila.

Sabihin niyo lang "Bakit ikaw ba nagbabayad ng PMS ko?"

Sa Hyundai namin, yung Santa Fe lang nakaka-sunod sa 3 months/5000km kasi nilalaspag. Minsan wala pang 3 months eh 5000km na ang tinakbo. Pero yung Tucson every 5 months ang PMS ko, usually natatapat sa March / April at September. May warranty parin naman. May ibang casa kasi na considerate sa owners, basta wag ka lang kakalas sa kanila, sila bahala sa'yo.

Pero yung Laus Group, put*nginang mga yan. Mas matino ang Autohub Group, Citimotors (E. Rod, Manila Bay, Dasma) at Hyundai Alabang Inc. (including Las Pinas).

[numbah5]

Kalokohan naman kasi talaga kung every 3 months ang PMS lalo na kung fully synthetic oil pa ang ginamit. Nasa owner na naman yan kung magpapa-sindak sila sa inutil na service adviser o yung service adviser ang sisindakin nila.

Sabihin niyo lang "Bakit ikaw ba nagbabayad ng PMS ko?"

Sa Hyundai namin, yung Santa Fe lang nakaka-sunod sa 3 months/5000km kasi nilalaspag. Minsan wala pang 3 months eh 5000km na ang tinakbo. Pero yung Tucson every 5 months ang PMS ko, usually natatapat sa March / April at September. May warranty parin naman. May ibang casa kasi na considerate sa owners, basta wag ka lang kakalas sa kanila, sila bahala sa'yo.

Pero yung Laus Group, put*nginang mga yan. Mas matino ang Autohub Group, Citimotors (E. Rod, Manila Bay, Dasma) at Hyundai Alabang Inc. (including Las Pinas).

Laus Group is Hyundai Balintawak and Hyundai Dagupan, which I've never of any horror stories yet.

Autohub group, Hyundai Global City and Hyundai Greenhills, sa Hyundai Global City maraming horror story.

Wheels group is Hyundai E. Rodriguez, Manila Bay and their affiliates Dasmariñas and Abad Santos, Dasma lang ang matinong casa sa grupo na yun.

Sunny Motor Group are Hyundai Quezon Avenue, Commonwealth, Cabanatuan, and Isabela, Commonwealth lang ang sablay na casa grupo na yun.

Hyundai Alabang Inc along with Las Piñas is matinong-matino

[Starex_Gold]

Laus group yung nirereklamo ni yebo na kumukupal sa kanya. Hyundai Balintawak to be exact. Yung Hyundai Pampanga walanghiya rin daw, overpricing ang ginagawa.

[yebo]

overpricing na nga ng 100% over other dealers e shotgun pa kung mag-trouble shoot. palit ito-palit yan-palit lahat baka sakali makuha natin sira.

[skyflakes]

Laus group yung nirereklamo ni yebo na kumukupal sa kanya. Hyundai Balintawak to be exact. Yung Hyundai Pampanga walanghiya rin daw, overpricing ang ginagawa.

yung starex nmin s hyundai baliuag nmin nkuha, member dn ng laus group! ibig sabihin may dealers cla n pangit ang service at sales? sa bagay kmi 50% d.p walang disc...dapat bng i boycott ang ilang dealers ng hyundai n member ng laus?

[Noel Salisipan]

Kalokohan naman kasi talaga kung every 3 months ang PMS lalo na kung fully synthetic oil pa ang ginamit...

Matindi pangangailangan, kailangang langisan ng quadterly para pirmis din langis nila sa mga owner!hehehe

Magaling marketing ng HARI kaya lang nagkukulang yata sila sa customer's satisfaction.

[stavros]

Hate to brake this news to you but HCom and HQA is owned by the same group.

Brake talaga? :D

[iceman101]

Brake talaga? :D

Haha my bad cars pinag uusapan kaya brake instead of break na type ko lolz, pasencia na tao lang po,

[EFFIE]

sir, makatarungan ba na ipilit ng Service advisor na HGMO synthetic lng pwede gamitin sa engine or else ma-void ang warranty mo. Under 1K pa lng sasakyan ( Tucson CRDI ) ng sister ko, gusto sana namin mineral lng hanggang 10K at least para maganda break-in ng pistons/cylinders. Saka ganoon ba talaga sa lahat ng HARI casa na ang owner walang choice na pumili ng mineral or synthetic oil? Sabi kasi ng SA, may choice naman kami mag-mineral oil kaya lng ala na warranty....Ganoon 1K pa lng ala na warranty, ano halaga ng 5 years warranty nila? Sa mahal ng fully synthetic oil, imagine kung gaano kalaki maintenance ni sister for 5 years, dito lng naman sya sa traffic lagi at hindi kailangan ng performance.

[yebo]

sir, makatarungan ba na ipilit ng Service advisor na HGMO synthetic lng pwede gamitin sa engine or else ma-void ang warranty mo. Under 1K pa lng sasakyan ( Tucson CRDI ) ng sister ko, gusto sana namin mineral lng hanggang 10K at least para maganda break-in ng pistons/cylinders. Saka ganoon ba talaga sa lahat ng HARI casa na ang owner walang choice na pumili ng mineral or synthetic oil? Sabi kasi ng SA, may choice naman kami mag-mineral oil kaya lng ala na warranty....Ganoon 1K pa lng ala na warranty, ano halaga ng 5 years warranty nila? Sa mahal ng fully synthetic oil, imagine kung gaano kalaki maintenance ni sister for 5 years, dito lng naman sya sa traffic lagi at hindi kailangan ng performance.

benta mo na lang yang tucson tapos bili ka ng sportage.

[iceman101]

sir, makatarungan ba na ipilit ng Service advisor na HGMO synthetic lng pwede gamitin sa engine or else ma-void ang warranty mo. Under 1K pa lng sasakyan ( Tucson CRDI ) ng sister ko, gusto sana namin mineral lng hanggang 10K at least para maganda break-in ng pistons/cylinders. Saka ganoon ba talaga sa lahat ng HARI casa na ang owner walang choice na pumili ng mineral or synthetic oil? Sabi kasi ng SA, may choice naman kami mag-mineral oil kaya lng ala na warranty....Ganoon 1K pa lng ala na warranty, ano halaga ng 5 years warranty nila? Sa mahal ng fully synthetic oil, imagine kung gaano kalaki maintenance ni sister for 5 years, dito lng naman sya sa traffic lagi at hindi kailangan ng performance.

Mag member ka sa Team Hyundai Philippines para malaman mo sang Casa pwede mag pa PMS using your own oil. Me corkage charge pero not as expensive compared to using their HGMO fully syn.

[kisshmet]

sir, makatarungan ba na ipilit ng Service advisor na HGMO synthetic lng pwede gamitin sa engine or else ma-void ang warranty mo. Under 1K pa lng sasakyan ( Tucson CRDI ) ng sister ko, gusto sana namin mineral lng hanggang 10K at least para maganda break-in ng pistons/cylinders. Saka ganoon ba talaga sa lahat ng HARI casa na ang owner walang choice na pumili ng mineral or synthetic oil? Sabi kasi ng SA, may choice naman kami mag-mineral oil kaya lng ala na warranty....Ganoon 1K pa lng ala na warranty, ano halaga ng 5 years warranty nila? Sa mahal ng fully synthetic oil, imagine kung gaano kalaki maintenance ni sister for 5 years, dito lng naman sya sa traffic lagi at hindi kailangan ng performance.

call up the different dealerships, each one have their own style in fleecing gullible customers

[Starex_Gold]

sir, makatarungan ba na ipilit ng Service advisor na HGMO synthetic lng pwede gamitin sa engine or else ma-void ang warranty mo. Under 1K pa lng sasakyan ( Tucson CRDI ) ng sister ko, gusto sana namin mineral lng hanggang 10K at least para maganda break-in ng pistons/cylinders. Saka ganoon ba talaga sa lahat ng HARI casa na ang owner walang choice na pumili ng mineral or synthetic oil? Sabi kasi ng SA, may choice naman kami mag-mineral oil kaya lng ala na warranty....Ganoon 1K pa lng ala na warranty, ano halaga ng 5 years warranty nila? Sa mahal ng fully synthetic oil, imagine kung gaano kalaki maintenance ni sister for 5 years, dito lng naman sya sa traffic lagi at hindi kailangan ng performance.

May note naman kasi from HARI na gumamit na ng Fully Synthetic oil sa mga CRDi engine especially sa R series engine. Kaya ipipilit ng casa na gumamit ka ng FS sa first PMS palang.

Tsaka sobrang viscous ng mineral oil, gumamit ako ng semi synthetic dati na medyo mataas ang viscosity, ako na nagsasabi sa'yo di ka matutuwa sa performance ng Tucson.

Sa Semi Synthetic ang choice mo lang is Kixx Turbo RV, di ako sure kung ano yung counterpart nyan sa Zic. Alam ko okay din yun ELF semi synthetic na gamit ng HQA.

Pwede mag semi ka muna. 5W-30 / 5W-40 / 10W-30 / 10W-40 ang viscosity.

Ngayon Motul CRDi specific gamit ko sa CRDi R tapos Motul H Tech 100 sa Theta II, gusto ko performance.

[EFFIE]

Maraming salamat mga sir sa advice ninyo . Ok lng naman sana sa amin yong hyundai kaso yong system na from 1st pms kailangan synthetic oil lng ang gagamitin, hindi namin matanggap. Alam naman natin na mahal ang synthetic compare to mineral oil. Every 4K naman normally change oil interval ng lahat ng sasakyan namin na diesel, so sana naman may choices ang owner na pumili. Para kasing sinabi nila na kung wala kayo 6tho plus every 3 months, void na warranty nyo. Sad to say wala kami iba option na casa kasi dito kami province at isa lng hyundai casa dito. Dati naman, pwde kami magdala ng shell helix oil kasi yon din ginagamit ng Casa pero ngyon pilitan at takutan na. Kawawa naman kami kasi 3 hyundai cars namin sa ngyon panay crdi pa.

[HondaWay]

Either follow HARI's term on PMS or lose the warranty.