2008 Hyundai Starex (Gen. 4)

[benchph1]

Kung HARI unit, not worth it. Tapos ung headlights non-projector pa.

If gray market, yes na yes. Saw a facelifted one loading up sa shell the other day. Biglang naluma ung 2017 GS namin. [emoji16]


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[CVT]

I'm having 2nd/3rd/4th thoughts on a new unit. Parang di worth it yung 700k difference between a new facelifted GL unit and a 2nd hand 2016 Gold with low mileage. Is a new nose worth 700k?

I should admit that the new face of the Starex is "stunning"...

Pero, for a 2/3-year old with low mileage and an extra P700K in my pocket[3 years ding tuition or schooling ng bata iyan],- no brainer bro... I'll take the pre-owned one in a heartbeat...

[Wh1stl3r]

If buying brand new I'd wait for and look at the new Hiace before deciding. May nguso na daw yung bago.

[benchph1]

I’m a bit put-off with this so-called “new” hi-ace. Because its not really developed by Toyota. Its really a Citroen/Peugeot van that will be rebadged as a toyota.


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[yebo]

I should admit that the new face of the Starex is "stunning"...

Pero, for a 2/3-year old with low mileage and an extra P700K in my pocket[3 years ding tuition or schooling ng bata iyan],- no brainer bro... I'll take the pre-owned one in a heartbeat...

A case of would have, could have...

The BOSS, a.k.a. the wife, vetoed me. Brand new it is.

[CVT]

A case of would have, could have...

The BOSS, a.k.a. the wife, vetoed me. Brand new it is.

I rest my case bro.

Wifey knows best...

[benchph1]

The BOSS has the final say. Isipin mo na lang happy wife, happy life [emoji16]


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[Wh1stl3r]

I’m a bit put-off with this so-called “new” hi-ace. Because its not really developed by Toyota. Its really a Citroen/Peugeot van that will be rebadged as a toyota.


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So yung Proace based on the Teepee lang talaga ang ilalabas? For me that might be better bro. If they offer it with a Toyota engine. Should be a lot more refined vs the current Hiace.

[benchph1]

Based on the leaked photo of test mules seen in public, looks like the new HiAce is based on the Citroen Jumpy.

The Grand Starex might not have a replacement in the near future because they just did a facelift.


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[glenn_duke]

Bulb Sizes, Heres what i know on a 2017 HARI GS.

Headlight Low- H7
Headlight Hi- H1
Foglights- H11

Park lights- T10
Front door courtesy lights- T10
Map Lights- Festoon 32MM
Dome lights- Festoon 32MM
Sliding door courtesy lights- T10
Reverse lights - T20
Tail Lights: BA20
Signal Lights: BA20


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Anyone tried upgrading the HARI tail lights to leds ?
Any issue?

Or at least to double contact bulbs?

[benchph1]

Anyone tried upgrading the HARI tail lights to leds ?
Any issue?

Or at least to double contact bulbs?

I did. For some reason the stock bulbs are still brighter than LED bulbs. Tried another set of LED bulbs from another supplier, same result.


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[dr. d]

I did. For some reason the stock bulbs are still brighter than LED bulbs. Tried another set of LED bulbs from another supplier, same result.


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my wild guess is, it is perceived so, because of the location of the filaments and/or the LED units inside the bulb.
the filament-type bulb is more in tune with the reflector, and has a more focused beam.
the LED is not in tune with the reflector, and the beam is not as focused.

[benchph1]

There is something with the red that “filters” the bulb brightness. I installed the same LED bulbs on the reverse lights and they seem bright.

Based on what i read on google, there are LED bulbs that can match or exceed the brightness of the stock tail light bulbs, but are expensive. For me not worth it.


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[glenn_duke]

There is something with the red that “filters” the bulb brightness. I installed the same LED bulbs on the reverse lights and they seem bright.

Based on what i read on google, there are LED bulbs that can match or exceed the brightness of the stock tail light bulbs, but are expensive. For me not worth it.


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Anong led bulb ginamit mo?
P21/5w, BA15d ?

Ginamitan mopa ba ng error canceller module/canbus?
Or plug n play?

[benchph1]

Anong led bulb ginamit mo?
P21/5w, BA15d ?

Ginamitan mopa ba ng error canceller module/canbus?
Or plug n play?

BA15S na led bulb. Built-in na canbus module. Mga led bulbs ngayon usually may error / hyper-blinking module na.


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[glenn_duke]

BA15S na led bulb. Built-in na canbus module. Mga led bulbs ngayon usually may error / hyper-blinking module na.


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Ok thanks,
Single contact lang pala yung both brake lights ng HARI units.

[CVT]

Ok thanks,
Single contact lang pala yung both brake lights ng HARI units.

Yes bro. As you said, those are for the HARI units.

However for Hancar units, they had them P21W double contact - 5W/21W. 4park/4brake lights.

I converted all four bulbs to double contacts... Just like Hancar...

[glenn_duke]

Yes bro. As you said, those are for the HARI units.

However for Hancar units, they had them P21W double contact - 5W/21W. 4park/4brake lights.

I converted all four bulbs to double contacts... Just like Hancar...

Na backread ko nga yang conversion to double contact parang gray market starex.
Magandang project sana, tinamad lang akong mag DIY,

So itong mga HARI units, all 4 rear stop/brake lights are P21W single contact?
Or yung upper light lang ang P21W and yung lower red light na parang park light ay 5W lang?

Kung P21W single contact silang lahat, that explains kung bakit parang mas mahina yung kinabit na led ni Bench.
Most led kasi for brake light single contacts are only between 3W-9W.

[CVT]

Na backread ko nga yang conversion to double contact parang gray market starex.
Magandang project sana, tinamad lang akong mag DIY,

So itong mga HARI units, all 4 rear stop/brake lights are P21W single contact?
Or yung upper light lang ang P21W and yung lower red light na parang park light ay 5W lang?

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I did the DIY bro. Note that a pair of original sockets is already for double contact bulbs and you can just use/transfer the wires of the second pair of sockets to make them work for double contact bulbs..

So bottomline you just need to buy a pair of sockets for double contact bulbs...

All of the four original bulbs of the HARI units, which are single contacts are approx 21W, based on the size of their filaments....

Hhhhmmmmm, let me measure their actual wattage...

[glenn_duke]

I did the DIY bro. Note that a pair of original sockets is already for double contact bulbs and you can just use/transfer the wires of the second pair of sockets to make them work for double contact bulbs..

So bottomline you just need to buy a pair of sockets for double contact bulbs...

All of the four original bulbs of the HARI units, which are single contacts are approx 21W, based on the size of their filaments....

Hhhhmmmmm, let me measure their actual wattage...

Thanks for the info, mukha kasing euro model yung gamit ng hari.
Isang double contact P21/5W at isang single na may 21W.
So im assuming na 5w lang yung park light and 21w yung brake light.

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