All New 2016 Civic

[jut703]

Hi,

Planning to buy Civic 1.8E this December. Was decided 100% on the Civic until I saw James Deakin’s post on his new Jetta 2.0.

Anyone here who has done a comparo of coth cars? Or who have experience (test) driving both?

Prefers civic because of the looks. But the diesel engine and 15k km PMS schedule on the Jetta are hard to ignore. And German pa pla.

Thanks!

Here's my take on that:

Mazda 3 Skyactive R vs Civic 1.8E

If you're so concerned with fuel consumption, Egan's suggestion of the VW Jetta is a solid choice. It will easily beat both the Civic and Mazda 3 when it comes to efficiency.

The Civic/Mazda 3 does 8 km/L in city driving, while the VW will probably do 9 km/L. Coupled with the cheaper cost of diesel, you will save close to P2,000 a month for fuel.

However, I'm sure you're on the fence with the Jetta just because it's a VW. Being a diesel and being a German car, PMS will definitely be higher than the Civic and moreso the Mazda (free maintenance for 3 yrs), but remember that it has a 15,000 km maintenance interval so you have fewer visits.

Net, maintenance cost shouldn't be a deal breaker and in the long run you will still save on running costs due to the cheaper fuel.

A bigger concern would be long-term parts availability. While personally I don't think premature DPF failure is a big issue in itself, there is still a general difficulty in finding parts for low volume cars. In this aspect, the Jetta is at a disadvantage to the Mazda and Civic. And even between the 3 and Civic, parts are still easier to find for the car that sells more, in this case the Civic.

I have a 13 year old Mazda 3 and parts are a hassle to find compared to my Altis before, not to mention more expensive. Worse, shops in Banawe that you thought were respectable were actually selling fake parts! (I'm looking at you, Mazford!)

I was also considering the Jetta before but went with the Civic simply because it's a simpler car to own for long-term use and because the high tech interior and eyecatching exterior really called to me. If you're willing to take the risk with a VW, you will be rewarded with great efficiency and power, good handling, lots of features, and German engineering all for a very fair price.

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[GLSTrend]

Here's my take on that:

Mazda 3 Skyactive R vs Civic 1.8E



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Before I bought a Civic, I had the same dilemma as yours. My boss has a Jetta and was convincing me to get one then. The car has all the functionalities you would need for a daily driver, plus it is very economical in terms of diesel consumption. And the once-a-year visit to the dealership is very tempting. However, what made me choose the Civic is the feeling I get whenever I'm in the driver's cockpit. It's just different with the Civic! The Jetta is somewhat laid back for me and the overall styling is

Thanks for the inputs!

Went to both VW and Honda this morning, and discovered the ff minor points on the 2:

Civic 1.8E
1. Noticed that the welds on the door are easily seen. Maybe because the car on display was silver(??)
2. Agree that thereÂ’s a different feel inside the cockpit. The modern exterior reverberates to its interior. Modern layout of the center console, instrument cluster etc.
3. Civic feels roomier than the Jetta.
4. The urethane steering wheel is nice to the touch, somewhat resembles the feel of leather due to its design. So steering (and shift lever) not being a leather is not an issue.

Jetta Comfortline
1. Though the seats are not of high end leatherette, the interior feels more luxurious and classier than the civic (except for the door panels).
2. Heavy doors. A good thing? NVH? Or safety beam?
3. Special alignment of the wipers is needed to clean the windshield. Also, the wipers are not of standard sizes so looking for alternative (to casa) could be challenging. Was informed that casaÂ’s price is 4k(??) per pair.
4. No fog lamps. No after market lamps are available (?). Maybe need to buy the casing same as with that of Highline variant
5. Option to install backing sensors could be limited and more expensive. Was advised that Winterpine has to do a bespoke installation.
6. With push start/stop engine (not mentioned in their brochure nor their website). Big plus for me, since IÂ’ve been used to this nice-to-have feature in my other car.
7. Unusually high hump at the back row. Due to the drive shaft??
8. Tail light not LED. I think this should be a standard in this price range and times. Though not sure about this.

After the dealer visits, leaning a bit towards the Jetta mainly due to the powerful but fuel efficient diesel engine. The only downsides I see are the too traditional look and spare parts (un)availability that could lead to very expensive maintenance cost.

Just need to do a test drive of the Jetta to make sure it fits me well. Already test drove a Civic last month but it was the RS variant. So I may have to do one with the 1.8 to have a better apples to apples comparison.

[jut703]

The Jetta today is pretty much the Ford Focus TDCi of 10 years ago.

Outstanding diesel engine, European sensibilities, poor parts availability and more difficult maintenance.

The Focus was a nice novelty when it was new due to its frugality but long term ownership, an FD Civic is a better choice for me.

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[sean-archer]

Hi guys, medyo pahirapan dito sa Central Luzon (Pampanga, Bulacan, Tarlac) yung availability ng units, im eyeing for a Civic 1.8E Modern Steel. Alanganin pa daw if magkaroon this December. Would you know other dealers in Metro Manila or somewhere in south na baka mas mabilis availability ng unit?

[makki08]

Hinde ba talaga pwede lumabas ng bahay kapag wala pang OR from the LTO? Though meron nang conduction sticker yung sasakyan.

Thanks!

[kevindd992002]

Hinde ba talaga pwede lumabas ng bahay kapag wala pang OR from the LTO? Though meron nang conduction sticker yung sasakyan.

Thanks!

Pwede naman, ang risk lang is kapag nagkaroon ng accident na kailangan pakita OR CR mo then may violation ka na worth 10K.

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[Sebastian Bach]

Hinde ba talaga pwede lumabas ng bahay kapag wala pang OR from the LTO? Though meron nang conduction sticker yung sasakyan.

Thanks!

Hindi pwde, but you can risk it, just dont get into an accident or traffic violation, OR ELSE prepare to shell out +10K and the dealer waiver they made you sign (+100K). For me its not worth it, 2 weeks lang naman aantayin mo for or/cr copy.

[makki08]

Hindi pwde, but you can risk it, just dont get into an accident or else prepare to shell out +10K and the dealer waiver they make you sign (+100K). For me its not worth it, 2 weeks lang naman aantayin mo for or/cr copy.

Hi, what do you mean by the dealer waiver? Magbabayad rin ako sa dealership? Yikes! Ang tagal rin kasi ng 2 weeks. Wala na kasi yung previous vehicle ko kasi pinahiram ko muna sya sa sister ko who doesn't live with me since we only have one spot for parking.

Thanks for the replies.

[Sebastian Bach]

Hi, what do you mean by the dealer waiver? Magbabayad rin ako sa dealership? Yikes! Ang tagal rin kasi ng 2 weeks. Wala na kasi yung previous vehicle ko kasi pinahiram ko muna sya sa sister ko who doesn't live with me since we only have one spot for parking.

Thanks for the replies.

It says there that you're waiving any dealer's responsibility sa penalty (+100K) if ever mahuli kang walang or/cr. I didn't read it all but i think thats the bottomline. So if ever man mahuli ka, i dont know how that will be settled. Dba penalties are +10K sa car owner, +100K naman sa dealer.

[AC_23]

Pwede naman, ang risk lang is kapag nagkaroon ng accident na kailangan pakita OR CR mo then may violation ka na worth 10K.

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wahaha! i got into an accident when my unit is just 3 weeks old and I dont have any ORCR at that time. hinanapan ako ng police nun pero sales invoice lang pinakita ko. di naman ako pinenalize. hehe. well, siguro it depends on the enforcer. we went to Traffic Bureau pa in Manila port area. hehe.


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[Raynim999]

wahaha! i got into an accident when my unit is just 3 weeks old and I dont have any ORCR at that time. hinanapan ako ng police nun pero sales invoice lang pinakita ko. di naman ako pinenalize. hehe. well, siguro it depends on the enforcer. we went to Traffic Bureau pa in Manila port area. hehe.


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Swerte mo bro

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[tr1ck5h07]

wahaha! i got into an accident when my unit is just 3 weeks old and I dont have any ORCR at that time. hinanapan ako ng police nun pero sales invoice lang pinakita ko. di naman ako pinenalize. hehe. well, siguro it depends on the enforcer. we went to Traffic Bureau pa in Manila port area. hehe.


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What year was this bro? The LTO has become stricter this year in enforcing the No ORCR, No Travel policy.


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[AC_23]

What year was this bro? The LTO has become stricter this year in enforcing the No ORCR, No Travel policy.


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This happened just this year, July 13 to be exact along Nagtahan going to Lacson. Maybe, it was not an LTO Officer that assisted me during that time. Only Manila Police Officers from Traffic Bureau which is why they are not strict in implementing such policy.

[makki08]

Hi guys, another question. The height of the Civic 1.8E's driver seat can be adjusted manually, right? I tried pushing the lever on the left side of the driver seat but it doesn't do anything. Am I doing it wrong?

Salamat po!

[MamBad]

Hi guys, another question. The height of the Civic 1.8E's driver seat can be adjusted manually, right? I tried pushing the lever on the left side of the driver seat but it doesn't do anything. Am I doing it wrong?

Salamat po!

Either press harder or maxed out na yung height.


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[conquest]

Hi guys, another question. The height of the Civic 1.8E's driver seat can be adjusted manually, right? I tried pushing the lever on the left side of the driver seat but it doesn't do anything. Am I doing it wrong?

Salamat po!

Either press harder or maxed out na yung height.


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yung sa akin naman.. madali itaas pag gagamitin ni misis pero pag ibaba ko na ang hirap.. lagutukan pa.. parang may sumasabit sa handle

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[jut703]

Hi guys, another question. The height of the Civic 1.8E's driver seat can be adjusted manually, right? I tried pushing the lever on the left side of the driver seat but it doesn't do anything. Am I doing it wrong?

Salamat po!

Push it down to lower the seat, pull it up to raise it. Make sure you're adjusting the height adjuster and not the other lever which is the adjustment for the seatback recliner.

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[makki08]

Thanks guys. I love it, ang bibilis nyong sumagot! Apparently, I was doing the opposite (i.e pushing it down when I wanted to raise it). I guess in-assume ko lang na similar sya sa computer chair ko nang pag-adjust.

[sean-archer]

Thanks guys. I love it, ang bibilis nyong sumagot! Apparently, I was doing the opposite (i.e pushing it down when I wanted to raise it). I guess in-assume ko lang na similar sya sa computer chair ko nang pag-adjust.

Kakainggit, yung unit ko wala pa din until now. But that's weird, pushing it down lowers the height sa mga na try ko. Pero tama sila, sa civic and crv na na try ko, you have to push down harder para mag adjust, yung tipong parang abnormally may sumasabit na plastic thing. Just be very careful baka masira naman.

[StockEngine]

Kakainggit, yung unit ko wala pa din until now. But that's weird, pushing it down lowers the height sa mga na try ko. Pero tama sila, sa civic and crv na na try ko, you have to push down harder para mag adjust, yung tipong parang abnormally may sumasabit na plastic thing. Just be very careful baka masira naman.

they designed it with a 270lb gorilla sitting on the driver seat going up and down. kung masisira, napaka bigat ng driver.

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