All New 2016 Civic

[mqavila]

Thanks AC_23.

mquavila, brake hold uses the electronic handbrake system to prevent forward creep while stopped in traffic - so that you can rest your right foot.

Thanks! But what I mean is, there's the lever to activate the hand brake and there's a separate button indicated as "brake hold". I can always lift the lever to activate the hand brake but what's the "brake hold" for?

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[desmosedici]

Thanks! But what I mean is, there's the lever to activate the hand brake and there's a separate button indicated as "brake hold". I can always lift the lever to activate the hand brake but what's the "brake hold" for?

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I get you. The difference is with the handbrake button, you will have to activate it every time you stop. With the brake hold, you activate it just once - all succeeding "brake holds" are activated by merely stepping on the brakes. Wala nang finger action .

[mqavila]

I get you. The difference is with the handbrake button, you will have to activate it every time you stop. With the brake hold, you activate it just once - all succeeding "brake holds" are activated by merely stepping on the brakes. Wala nang finger action .

Oh cool. This is what I get for not reading the manual. Thanks!

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[jut703]

The parking brake button activates the electronic parking brake (you'll hear it activate if the area is quiet).

Brake Hold just applies the brakes for you. If you would notice, when Brake Hold is on, the 3rd brake light is also on.

I use Brake Hold for stoplights and intersections, and the Parking Brake when I'm parked.

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[HondaRSTurbo16]

Same tayo ng case, sir. Until now, i'm still figuring out what causes it.

Update:

I was wiping my car last Wednesday. I decided to open the hood to clean it. I was shocked to find a receipt that partially covered the hood lock. On the receipt are some battery diagnostics - 12.7 volts, amps and some other technical data. Since, I had my first PMS check up a couple of weeks ago, I believe someone from the service bay left the receipt there and closed the hood with the receipt stuck inside. I'm not sure this has a direct effect on the remote start, but, when I left the car for 3 days without starting it, I remote started it and it worked like a charm. I did this the second time, leaving it for 2 days, it still works.

I think for the remote start to work properly, you really need to check whether all doors, trunk, hood and windows are properly closed without any obstruction whatsoever. I even checked the gas lid whether something was stuck in there, like a dried leaf or something.

Anyway, I'm very relieved because I've finally solved the problem.

I really should have double checked everything before I left the service center. Lesson learned. Whew!!

[EQAddict]

That type R looks mighty tempting. But the manual for Manila turns me off. 100 units only. Hmmmmmmm

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[Egan101]

That type R looks mighty tempting. But the manual for Manila turns me off. 100 units only. Hmmmmmmm

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2.98M each. You can start reserving tomorrow. Hehehehe

[EQAddict]

Id pribably regret the manual. 2 hr traffic is no joke hehe.

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[desmosedici]

2.98M each. You can start reserving tomorrow. Hehehehe

300T over the STI? Can't see a compelling reason to choose the Type R over the former.

[jut703]

300T over the STI? Can't see a compelling reason to choose the Type R over the former.

100 units only. You're paying for the exclusivity.

For sure, those 100 units will be snapped up very quickly.

The current STi doesn't have as much a cult following as the Type R. In fact, so many ordinary Civic owners are turning their cars into Type R-wannabes, with red badges and aesthetic mods. 😂

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[niky]

Even in the US, they're charging a premium for the Type-R. Some dealers are tacking a 100% mark-up in the US.

Which is godawfully insane.

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Locally, the STi is the only competitor in that price range guaranteed to be in the same ballpark in terms of on-track ability. The Mustang might be quicker on the streets, but it's a nose-heavy car compared to those compacts.

Still... 3m is insane. I would've expected 2.5m for the Type R, but I suppose the huge demand in the US is limiting the supplies they can give to LHD markets like ours.

[luis123]

Update:

I was wiping my car last Wednesday. I decided to open the hood to clean it. I was shocked to find a receipt that partially covered the hood lock. On the receipt are some battery diagnostics - 12.7 volts, amps and some other technical data. Since, I had my first PMS check up a couple of weeks ago, I believe someone from the service bay left the receipt there and closed the hood with the receipt stuck inside. I'm not sure this has a direct effect on the remote start, but, when I left the car for 3 days without starting it, I remote started it and it worked like a charm. I did this the second time, leaving it for 2 days, it still works.

I think for the remote start to work properly, you really need to check whether all doors, trunk, hood and windows are properly closed without any obstruction whatsoever. I even checked the gas lid whether something was stuck in there, like a dried leaf or something.

Anyway, I'm very relieved because I've finally solved the problem.

I really should have double checked everything before I left the service center. Lesson learned. Whew!!

Nice. Good for you, sir! I've also checked CivicX.com and found out that several other members in the US are experiencing the same issue. What some did was to reset the remote start feature, while others had to press the lock button first each time before pressing and holding the remote start button for five seconds. The rest simply had dead/weak batteries when checked by the dealership.

[HondaRSTurbo16]

Nice. Good for you, sir! I've also checked CivicX.com and found out that several other members in the US are experiencing the same issue. What some did was to reset the remote start feature, while others had to press the lock button first each time before pressing and holding the remote start button for five seconds. The rest simply had dead/weak batteries when checked by the dealership.

I've also visited that forum to check for solutions. I think it is best to periodically check and clean all locks of accumulated dirt and debris as I think the remote start sensor is very sensitive.

[jut703]

My old rims have found a new home:



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[arvs18]

^

Unang tingin akala ko yung Car mo.

Then nakita ko na Chrome parin yung Grille hehe.

[Walter]

mquavila, brake hold uses the electronic handbrake system to prevent forward creep while stopped in traffic

You should read your operating manual first so you don't give out false information ...

[desmosedici]

That's a wise policy Walter. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. Haba kasi ng manual, nasa safety portion pa lang.

But don't just tell me off and stop there, enlighten me and mqavila please. Am I that far wrong?

You should read your operating manual first so you don't give out false information ...

[desmosedici]

So I just read the manual on brake hold and parking brake but it's all about operating the systems and what one needs to know when using them. How they work from a mechanical POV isn't covered. Also I checked the car and there is no separate/smaller caliper on the rear disc, which if I were to guess means main brakes and the park brakes are separate mechanisms that activate the same caliper albeit zero hydra vac assist for the latter.

My question is what mechanical system does the brake hold use? The one for the main brakes (with vacuum assist) or the one for the park brakes? jut703 earlier indicated the brake hold uses the main brake system. I honestly don't know which, based on reading the manual alone. I think its reasonable to assume the brake hold is the parking brake with a different control algorithm. You don't need hydro-vac assist to stop an already stopped car from creeping. But that's what makes tsikot worthwhile for me - well intentioned people who just want to help, who may know the answer with certainty or who just want to take an informed jab at it.

[jut703]

You should read your operating manual first so you don't give out false information ...

I read the manual from cover to cover and there's nothing there describing how the EPB differs from Brake Hold in terms of how they work.

So I just read the manual on brake hold and parking brake but it's all about operating the systems and what one needs to know when using them. How they work from a mechanical POV isn't covered. Also I checked the car and there is no separate/smaller caliper on the rear disc, which if I were to guess means main brakes and the park brakes are separate mechanisms that activate the same caliper albeit zero hydra vac assist for the latter.

My question is what mechanical system does the brake hold use? The one for the main brakes (with vacuum assist) or the one for the park brakes? jut703 earlier indicated the brake hold uses the main brake system. I honestly don't know which, based on reading the manual alone. I think its reasonable to assume the brake hold is the parking brake with a different control algorithm. You don't need hydro-vac assist to stop an already stopped car from creeping. But that's what makes tsikot worthwhile for me - well intentioned people who just want to help, who may know the answer with certainty or who just want to take an informed jab at it.

The surest indicator that the EPB and Brake Hold are 2 different systems is the way that they engage. Brake Hold keeps the brakes on when you step on it (and applies it for you when you slow to a complete stop). The EPB locks the rear brakes altogether, as you'll hear when you pull the lever. Since the Civic doesn't seem to have a drum-in-disc setup like in older cars, it's safe to assume that it does this by applying the calipers of the disc brakes themselves as its parking brake.

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[jut703]

My FC after a trip down from Baguio: 34.6 km/L 😁😁😁



Barely used the gas and brake pedals, just gravity and engine braking. 👌

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