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    #2801
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnubla View Post
    I replaced the spark plugs this morning and the drive significantly improved!

    Acceleration is better and more responsive.

    However there are times.that i feel its still a little sluggish.

    Not sure if im getting paranoid but normally should the RPM reach 2000 or should it only play around 1500? Sometimes during breaks or slow down i need to step on the gas more. The idling also moves, i mean i can see the needle shaking from time to time.
    At least, it is better now. The plugs may have been fowled already. Try doing an idle learn to put the idle rpm at is normal state. Check online on how to do it for the Ford Ecoboost 2.0L engines.

    On a different note, you have to consider that you are driving a big SUV with a gas engine. Even though it is a turbocharged engine for which the peak torque starts below 2k rpm, you have to consider turbo lag. You need to rev it a bit (2k to 3k rpm) to get the feel of that pull from the turbocharged engine. Also, peak power of the engine is achieved only at 6k rpm.

    If you are driving with the tachometer only within 2k rpm, you will be surely disappointed with the response of the engine. Ford's Ecoboost engines or any other turbo engines love to be revved high.
    Last edited by Egan101; May 18th, 2018 at 08:24 AM.

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    #2802
    Strange why the dealer did not diagnose properly considering it's just spark plugs ... they rely too much on the computer? ...

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    #2803
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Strange why the dealer did not diagnose properly considering it's just spark plugs ... they rely too much on the computer? ...
    The spark plugs used on Ecoboost engines are of the long-life type and rated up to 100k miles.

    Some local dealers insists on replacing them every 2 years or 40k km. My suggestion is to check them every 20k km after the first two years of use and replace them once they are found to be fouled-up already. The stock plugs on my Ecoboost 1.0L engine are still good at more than 50k km of use.


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    #2804
    So after going back to Ford to complain about the high mileage, they still don't see and cant find any problem.

    Have already changed the oil 2x, replaced the oil and air filters, replaced the spark plugs, inspected the MAF, and inspected the cooling system. They said the fuel injection is also fine.

    Basically the power is there but have to push the accelerator to 2000 - 3000 RPM to get the power, thus consuming more fuel.

    Any other thoughts on the probable cause?

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    #2805
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnubla View Post

    Basically the power is there but have to push the accelerator to 2000 - 3000 RPM to get the power, thus consuming more fuel.
    As mentioned before, you are driving a gas engine and you need to rev it a bit to get it going in a faster pace. You are lucky to have a turbo engine on that big truck so you only need to rev it at its turbo spool rpm range (2k-3k rpm) to have the peak torque available.

    If you are driving a 4-banger NA engine, you need to rev it past 4k rpm to get the peak torque. It is a different story though if you are driving a big V6 or V8 engine as you have ample torque available at low rpms.

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    #2806
    Did you check the turbo? ...

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    #2807
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Did you check the turbo? ...
    Not yet.

    Now i think its either the turbo or the throttle body.

    How do i check if turbo is the problem?

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    #2808
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnubla View Post
    Not yet.

    Now i think its either the turbo or the throttle body.

    How do i check if turbo is the problem?

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    Please have someone check the hoses and clamps going to the turbocharger. A loose clamp or broken hose causes a vacuum leak that impacts engine response at low rpms.


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    #2809
    Thanks for the suggestion. Will bring it to AutoCity this weekend. Crossing my fingers!

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    #2810
    Finally was able to fix the problem today of the high RPM.

    Apparently Ford Alabang didnt reset the PCM despite bringing it there twice.

    Brought it to Autocity in Makati and the lead technician, Andie who came from Ford EDSA, did the diagnostics.

    Now my RPM doesnt even reach 2000 and the engine is alot lighter.

    Galing!!!

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    #2811
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnubla View Post
    Finally was able to fix the problem today of the high RPM.

    Apparently Ford Alabang didnt reset the PCM despite bringing it there twice.

    Brought it to Autocity in Makati and the lead technician, Andie who came from Ford EDSA, did the diagnostics.

    Now my RPM doesnt even reach 2000 and the engine is alot lighter.

    Galing!!!

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    how was your experience with Autocity Makati? I'm also looking for a go to shop for out of warranty repairs of my Explorer. Are they able to source parts?

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    hi!, im thinking of buying explorer 2014-15, im choosing between 2.0L or 3.5L V6, but im concern with the gas consumption and maintenance, what will be the practical choice in your opinion, appreciate your feedback on this, thank you.

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    #2813
    Quote Originally Posted by fdlover View Post
    hi!, im thinking of buying explorer 2014-15, im choosing between 2.0L or 3.5L V6, but im concern with the gas consumption and maintenance, what will be the practical choice in your opinion, appreciate your feedback on this, thank you.
    you can decide...




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    You should consider another vehicle (maybe diesel) if you're concerned with fuel consumption and maintenance costs ... Also, it's not something one considers when thinking of a practical vehicle ...

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    #2815
    Quote Originally Posted by fdlover View Post
    hi!, im thinking of buying explorer 2014-15, im choosing between 2.0L or 3.5L V6, but im concern with the gas consumption and maintenance, what will be the practical choice in your opinion, appreciate your feedback on this, thank you.
    A big gas-powered SUV is not for those who are concerned with gas consumption. You are looking at around 5 km/L in either powerplant for the Explorer.

    A Santa Fe or Sorento CRDi would be a consideration if you are concerned with fuel expense.

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    #2816
    Quote Originally Posted by fdlover View Post
    hi!, im thinking of buying explorer 2014-15, im choosing between 2.0L or 3.5L V6, but im concern with the gas consumption and maintenance, what will be the practical choice in your opinion, appreciate your feedback on this, thank you.
    when you think of buying a gas engine like an Explorer, fuel consumption should be the least of your concern. either of the two variants you mentioned are not efficient in terms of fuel eco. but ride comfort is top of its class, big and roomy interior, nice infotainment, good safety features.

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    #2817
    Quote Originally Posted by fdlover View Post
    hi!, im thinking of buying explorer 2014-15, im choosing between 2.0L or 3.5L V6, but im concern with the gas consumption and maintenance, what will be the practical choice in your opinion, appreciate your feedback on this, thank you.
    Both are impractical. Get a Fortuner/Everest/Montero if fuel bills scare you.

    The Explorer will consume more than twice as much fuel per month than any of the diesel PPVs.

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    True story yan.
    If fuel bills are top priority, get a diesel ppv.
    Maintenance are kinda similar.

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    #2820
    Gusto ko sana bumili ng second hand Explorer na 2012 totoo ba issue sa ang transmission ng mga Ford ? Sobrang bilis kase bumaba ng Value kaya nanghihinayang ako bumili noon ngayon may nakikita ako 800k to 900k na lang.

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