Remote bypass oil filtration

[crazy_boy]

guys, quick question, sorry got a little confused reading about good oils in thus thread.

for a vios, what is the lowest TBN i
should use? I read the spec sheet pf idemitsu eco 10w-30 from an it had only 7.8. I was thinking its kinda low, is it?

is zic oil okay for the vios? What series/type do you recommend? I read its a type-III oil so it must be good. Where can i buy it and how much is it?

im done researching on the oil filters. im now researching on good oils that are relatively low priced with good performance. i plan to use it for about 8k kms only

sirkosero, Idemitsu Extreme Eco din gamit ko before. if gusto mo talaga gamitin yan, i still have .5L left here. bigay ko nalang sayo hehe i only used it once cause the engine performance wasnt as good even compared to Toyota branded 20w50 mineral oil. Probably the weight 30 oil was too thin. after, i switched to using Zic A 10w40. this is group3 oil. ginamit ko na ito sa Gen1 crv (previously using Royal Purple), gas Innova, and vios. so far so good.

*CB

no sir. hehehe! repost lang from the other site. ganda kasi ng pics e. ang linaw. nasasayangan din ako kung cut open ko yung unused BT223 ko. hehehe

* doc

Found it bro
http://www.modot.mo.gov/business/con...rposesONLY.pdf

bayen, which site did you see it?

[bayen]

guys, quick question, sorry got a little confused reading about good oils in thus thread.

for a vios, what is the lowest TBN i
should use? I read the spec sheet pf idemitsu eco 10w-30 from an it had only 7.8. I was thinking its kinda low, is it?

is zic oil okay for the vios? What series/type do you recommend? I read its a type-III oil so it must be good. Where can i buy it and how much is it?

im done researching on the oil filters. im now researching on good oils that are relatively low priced with good performance. i plan to use it for about 8k kms only

for oil selection sir, API rating of CI-4 would be perfect for your Vios, as from my observation, under this API rating Zinc level is 1200 PPM which is safe your catalytic converter. I was also in the lookout for the best oil possible for my ride and here are some of my recommendations for you


1. Mobil Delvav MX 15w40
API Rating: CI-4
TBN:12
Zinc: 1200
Price: 250 per liter at Any Ace Hardware

2. Caltex Delo Gold Ultra 15w40
API Rating: CI-4
TBN: 10.2
Zinc: 1200 Pho: 1100

3. Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w40 - very good oil, a bit pricey though. around 450 per liter (cash and carry makati)

Zic and Bardahl oi okay din sir. basta check mo muna yung product data/technical sheet and watch out for the zinc level. basta hindi lalagpas ng 1200 PPM safe cat con mo.

+ pair it with a good oil filter and you'd be good for 10,000-12,000 KM before your next oil change.

[bayen]

* CB

dito sir.

<http://www.modot.mo.gov/business/contractor_resources/gs_bidding/D2/documents/2010FilterMRPPrecentagePricingSheetBidPurposesONLY .pdf> then go to page 7 of 9. may list ng FGs and its efficiency at 30 microns.

[sirkosero]

sirkosero, Idemitsu Extreme Eco din gamit ko before. if gusto mo talaga gamitin yan, i still have .5L left here. bigay ko nalang sayo hehe i only used it once cause the engine performance wasnt as good even compared to Toyota branded 20w50 mineral oil. Probably the weight 30 oil was too thin. after, i switched to using Zic A 10w40. this is group3 oil. ginamit ko na ito sa Gen1 crv (previously using Royal Purple), gas Innova, and vios. so far so good.



bayen, which site did you see it?

cb, thanks sa offer. actually meron din ako dito 1liter sobra ng oil change ng pinsan ko kahapon hehe

[sirkosero]

for oil selection sir, API rating of CI-4 would be perfect for your Vios, as from my observation, under this API rating Zinc level is 1200 PPM which is safe your catalytic converter. I was also in the lookout for the best oil possible for my ride and here are some of my recommendations for you


1. Mobil Delvav MX 15w40
API Rating: CI-4
TBN:12
Zinc: 1200
Price: 250 per liter at Any Ace Hardware

2. Caltex Delo Gold Ultra 15w40
API Rating: CI-4
TBN: 10.2
Zinc: 1200 Pho: 1100

3. Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w40 - very good oil, a bit pricey though. around 450 per liter (cash and carry makati)

Zic and Bardahl oi okay din sir. basta check mo muna yung product data/technical sheet and watch out for the zinc level. basta hindi lalagpas ng 1200 PPM safe cat con mo.

+ pair it with a good oil filter and you'd be good for 10,000-12,000 KM before your next oil change.

great! thanks! concern ko din kasi yung sludging so i want a good oil and im currently using baldwin bt223.

ok lang ba yung diesel oil for regular use? ang alam ko delo gold pang linis lang ng engine internals and change agad after 1k kms

[crazy_boy]

great! thanks! concern ko din kasi yung sludging so i want a good oil and im currently using baldwin bt223.

ok lang ba yung diesel oil for regular use? ang alam ko delo gold pang linis lang ng engine internals and change agad after 1k kms

multifleet na ang Delo (not all but almost all). meaning API "C" and "S" rated already,

[bayen]

awesome document on oil filter internals comparison

http://www.ford-trucks.com/ford-manu...Comparison.pdf

[tomboy]

chiks, problem kasi with idemitsu eco, weight 30 is not suitable for our weather.

10w30 ginagamit ko sa fd. After ng warranty lipat na ako sa delo ultra.

Bakit naglalabas pa ng w30 sa pinas kung hindi suitable?

bale Zic + baldwin combo gamit ko sa fleet namin. though 5k km OCI parin ako sa mga toyota namin.

Ano OCI?

[dvldoc]

* BAYEN

Filters effiency ratings change all the time thats why I call, even info tWo years old can be out of date, you cann see the differnce on the on link I gave u.

[dvldoc]

* Bayen

Oil filter ratings change all the time due to improvements in design, even something two years ago can be out of date. Always best to call or email for thelatest specs.. The motorcraft link also has a lot of marketing gimmicks in it like the word (may cause) and I notice its showing the old ecore design for the valvoline filter when it was not made by Ashland which is a totally different design with metal end caps and a coil spring.

[dvldoc]

10w30 ginagamit ko sa fd. After ng warranty lipat na ako sa delo ultra.

Bakit naglalabas pa ng w30 sa pinas kung hindi suitable?



Ano OCI?

oil chang interval

[number001]

10w30 ginagamit ko sa fd. After ng warranty lipat na ako sa delo ultra.

Bakit naglalabas pa ng w30 sa pinas kung hindi suitable?

The use of less viscous oil can make the vehicles they are selling, appear to be fuel efficient, which is good for marketing.

For Subaru, the manual recommends 5W-20 and that is what the local casa uses for each OCI (unless otherwise specified by customer) . Definitely unsuitable for our weather conditions.

Ano OCI?

Oil Change Interval.

[trucker111]

chiks, problem kasi with idemitsu eco, weight 30 is not suitable for our weather. im currently using Zic brand oil. it was posted here before na ok itong brand and affordable siya. dvldoc also recommended this brand. its the biggest group3 (semi-syn) oil manufacturer around the world.

bale Zic + baldwin combo gamit ko sa fleet namin. though 5k km OCI parin ako sa mga toyota namin.

saan available ang zic?

[Chikselog]

if you are going to use Caltex Delo I suggest you use Caltex Delo Gold Ultra 15w40 instead of Delo Gold. Gold Ultra has the "safe" amount of Zinc, 1200 PPM. Anything higher than 1200 PPM is not safe for the Catalytic Converter. Mas mura nga lang ng onti yung Gold (215 per liter, i just checked yesterday at a local Caltex shop here in Angeles City. Delo Gold Ultra is at 230 per liter.

Delo Gold - Zinc * 1500 PPM; API Rating CH-4
Delo Gold Ultra - Zinc * 1200 PPM; API Rating CI-4 ( Safe for Cat Con)

Grabe ang bilis umusad ng thread hehe. Thanks for this very informative reply sir. Okay lang ba na hanggang 5k or maybe until 7k bago palitan yung oil na ito? Combined with Baldwin BT223? I'll buy 2 of these na sa Volmax para di pabalik balik hehe. Again thanks po!

[crazy_boy]

Grabe ang bilis umusad ng thread hehe. Thanks for this very informative reply sir. Okay lang ba na hanggang 5k or maybe until 7k bago palitan yung oil na ito? Combined with Baldwin BT223? I'll buy 2 of these na sa Volmax para di pabalik balik hehe. Again thanks po!

chiks, yes BT223 ang pang vios and altis. last time i went there, i bought 6 for our 2 toyota cars. that will last us around 18 months of use na. para hindi din balik ng balik. sayang gas and parking e hehe

as for OCI, i know doing the 5k km OCI for baldwin filter is a waste of money. but wouldnt want to gamble with the toyota engine.

[Chikselog]

Low mileage kasi Vios namin. 5k kilometers will take us at least 6 months. Masama rin naman ata na matagal masyado maabot ang 5k para mag oil change. So in my case I think pwede na yung kada 5k hehe tutal di naman masakit sa bulsa yung Baldwin. Mas mahal pa nga OEM Toyota oil Filter * 315 pesos.

[tomboy]

Tama ba yung pinabili ko na baldwin filter for fd and ek civic. B179 and code number? Nasa box sya pero wala plastic wrapper na nakabalot sa oil filter.

Ngayon ko lang nacheck yung baldwinfilters.com. Ang lumabas sa product search for civic and fit b1402. Tapos sa b179 honda automotive (crv and s2000)

[dvldoc]

* bayen that motorcraft at is also a bit dated, valvoline filters are now made by Ashland and look nothing like the old ecore design which is what the later acdelcos look like also. Also filter effienciencies will change due to product improvements thats why its always best to call or email for the latest values. i prefer independent testing without the marketing gimmicks (may cause) thats a gimmikk not backed by facts.

[bayen]

Grabe ang bilis umusad ng thread hehe. Thanks for this very informative reply sir. Okay lang ba na hanggang 5k or maybe until 7k bago palitan yung oil na ito? Combined with Baldwin BT223? I'll buy 2 of these na sa Volmax para di pabalik balik hehe. Again thanks po!

You can go 10,000KM on mineral oil + Baldwin BT223 (Combo)

12,000KM to 15,000KM on synthetic but will also depends on the API rating.
Oils like Delo 400 are group 2 will go 12,000 on a diesel so in a gas engine even longer.

Diesel oils are more robust and have a higher TBN so they last longer.

- dvdldoc

[bayen]

* bayen that motorcraft at is also a bit dated, valvoline filters are now made by Ashland and look nothing like the old ecore design which is what the later acdelcos look like also. Also filter effienciencies will change due to product improvements thats why its always best to call or email for the latest values. i prefer independent testing without the marketing gimmicks (may cause) thats a gimmikk not backed by facts.

Duly noted doc.