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    #1361
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    ^ That is interesting because I can't find MSDS data for Petron products. I am doubtful in their formulation kaya never used it even before.
    So true sir... even I can't find any MSDS data for Petron lubricant products... will not use their oil ever again

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    #1362
    petron doesn't have any available MSDS or even product data sheet... caltex and shell has their PDS available in the internet...

    makes you really wonder why petron doesn't divulge whats in their oil.... for the same price that trekker sells, you can buy a good oil that has a good additive and PDS available...

    i have never been a fan of petron especially their hauler and trekker series...

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    #1363
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    after backreading, i think i bought the wrong oil filter....

    i bought the BT233 instead of BT223 for the 4cy toyota.

    oopps sorry about that bro. napaghalo.ko yata yung bt223 with b33 = bt233.

    but seriously the bt223 is an excellent filter imho. di maitim ang oil even after 3k kms.

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    #1364
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post

    the guy at Volmax gave me an Old New stock of the BD28. he told me that its the last one they have. will post picture of it later.

    at first he didnt want to sell it to me cause he said people from tsikot are "maselan" haha hopefully its not a fake.
    Why that lying s..... :D Well he told me two days ago that they didn't have any more stocks of the B28 bec. the people from the forums cleaned him out.

    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    just a heads up for all people wanting to buy BD28 for their 4D56 powered L300, it will not fit!! cause the filter is 0.5in longer and it is hitting the chassis and cant place it in anymore..
    Well its a good thing he didn't sell it to me. :D

    Now I don't know what filter to use for our fleet of L300 FBs.

    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    after backreading, i think i bought the wrong oil filter....

    i bought the BT233 instead of BT223 for the 4cy toyota.
    Check this : Baldwin Filters E-Catalog

    USDM Yaris only uses 1NZ-FE (1.5) and according to Baldwin's site, B33 is the one you should use.

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    #1365
    ^ sir use the Bosch filter na lang for your 4d56. At least guaranteed better performance than OEM and Vic but almost thrice cheaper.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #1366
    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    Why that lying s..... :D Well he told me two days ago that they didn't have any more stocks of the B28 bec. the people from the forums cleaned him out.



    Well its a good thing he didn't sell it to me. :D

    Now I don't know what filter to use for our fleet of L300 FBs.



    Check this : Baldwin Filters E-Catalog

    USDM Yaris only uses 1NZ-FE (1.5) and according to Baldwin's site, B33 is the one you should use.
    BT223 fits all 4cly toyota gas engines and gives you a bit more filtering surface, cars can use a variety of sizes of filters you can go bigger you can go smaller, it just needs to have the same thread pattern, same bypass valve range, burst pressure, and flow numbers. The BT223 flows more than the B33, is slightly bigger, same bypass valve, same burst pressure so it's the better filter. They do not have the B33 in stock.

    I'm surprised to see the BD28 would not fit the L300's it's to bad you would figure they would have the clearance since it's smaller than the stock filter unless your ride is converted? The Bosch filter for the 4D56 is like 1.5" taller and it's wider so that's out the door for you to.

    The JS catalog also says BD28 for the L300, perhaps your frame has a issue,

    JS Filters :: Application Cross Reference and Image for JS : Oil (Spin-on) : C306J

    The JS filter is 125mm long the BD28 is 136mm, that's only 10mm which is only a 0.39 inch difference.

    * number001 measure your current filters and the space. All you need is 136mm of space.
    Last edited by dvldoc; March 3rd, 2012 at 10:59 PM.

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    #1367
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    just bought a BT233 for my 4cy Toyota and a BD28.

    the guy at Volmax gave me an Old New stock of the BD28. he told me that its the last one they have. will post picture of it later.

    at first he didnt want to sell it to me cause he said people from tsikot are "maselan" haha hopefully its not a fake.


    just a heads up for all people wanting to buy BD28 for their 4D56 powered L300, it will not fit!! cause the filter is 0.5in longer and it is hitting the chassis and cant place it in anymore..
    Kaw pala yung naka bili ng last pieve... hehehe

    sa Pajero mo na lang ilagay..

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    #1368
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post

    I'm surprised to see the BD28 would not fit the L300's it's to bad you would figure they would have the clearance since it's smaller than the stock filter unless your ride is converted? The Bosch filter for the 4D56 is like 1.5" taller and it's wider so that's out the door for you to.

    The JS catalog also says BD28 for the L300, perhaps your frame has a issue,

    JS Filters :: Application Cross Reference and Image for JS : Oil (Spin-on) : C306J

    The JS filter is 125mm long the BD28 is 136mm, that's only 10mm which is only a 0.39 inch difference.

    * number001 measure your current filters and the space. All you need is 136mm of space.



    This is how the original Mitsubishi genuine oil filter MD069782 is positioned in the engine bay of the L300 (when it was new). The filter has long been replaced and discarded.

    Used the Js filter website comparison tool and it does say BD28.

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    #1369
    Looks like you have a good inch to play with there. Best bet would be to try a BD28, Get if from the guy who cannot now use it because it does not fit.

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    #1370
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    just bought a BT233 for my 4cy Toyota and a BD28.

    the guy at Volmax gave me an Old New stock of the BD28. he told me that its the last one they have. will post picture of it later.

    at first he didnt want to sell it to me cause he said people from tsikot are "maselan" haha hopefully its not a fake.


    just a heads up for all people wanting to buy BD28 for their 4D56 powered L300, it will not fit!! cause the filter is 0.5in longer and it is hitting the chassis and cant place it in anymore..
    That's a sweet deal getting 1 for free. All their Baldwins are real.

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    #1371
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    That's a sweet deal getting 1 for free. All their Baldwins are real.
    dvldoc, i bought the B233 by mistake. I should have bought BT223 for the Toyota 4cy engine. would i encounter any problem?

    thanks

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    #1372
    What to do with the spare 2 micron filters..

    Made a dialysis machine for the generator's sub tank


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    #1373
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    dvldoc, i bought the B233 by mistake. I should have bought BT223 for the Toyota 4cy engine. would i encounter any problem?

    thanks
    Bro, the thread would fit but im not sure with the OD and length.. Though the gaskets are almost the same, it would depend on how flat is the spin-on filter-base.. Some base have lid that makes it impossible to go beyond the OD.. But you may try it.. Im using BT233 in my corolla and camry but never crossed my mind to use B233(im using for the Nav). What i noticed with the Toyota is that the spin on base plate is Flat that makes room for more OD..

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    #1374
    Well if it does fit that is a big fat bonus, because you now have a much larger filter.

    Almost all Nissans have that stupid lip on them so you cannot put on a larger diameter filter but if the surface is flat it will work just fine. The gaskets as 12vDC stated are pretty much the same.

    Here is a example, the B34 has the same gasket as the B233. and is just a little shorter than the B233.



    2002 Corolla oil filter mount, There appears to be no lip and a little bit of space.



    The BT223 is what the V6 engines run and is what is a direct fit on all the 4cly gas engines with no clearance issues.



    I know you can go longer but wider you would have to check for clearance, I would go ahead and get the proper size because it the B233 does not fit your not without a vehicle waiting on the part.
    Last edited by dvldoc; March 4th, 2012 at 04:58 AM.

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    #1375
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    What to do with the spare 2 micron filters..

    Made a dialysis machine for the generator's sub tank

    Hmm know I wonder. Since there filter media is essentially the same and so are the burst pressures for fuel and oil filters you might be able to use this for a bypass set up. with a Oil cooler adapter. I could always call FG for the specs on that one.

    To bad the Navara does not have space for one of these and a filter. I got a extra one sitting at my house in the Philippines. With this and some high TBN oil you could go without changing it for around 25000klms or more. Not to mention it would stay pretty damm clean. Hell I'd let you have it if you could find a shorter stock filter to make it work. You seem pretty Mcgiver anyways.


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    #1376
    Doc, Since i used a Fully synthetic oil and fleetguard LF3644 for my gasoline engine, even most of the time drive it hard and long, it took the oil 2 months or almost 4000kms to even turn slight brown...

    Quality filters really prolong the life the of oil... good for the environment and pocket...
    Sadly Vic is the preferred choice of many people...

    dapat kasi magtinda Volmax at pacer sa banawe..hahaha.

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    #1377
    That's why I have been pushing this, you save so much money in oil changes, and engine maintenance down the road. It's extremely wasteful to change your oil at 5000klm . No reason a good oil with a good filter can't go 10000klm or more. Especially on a gas engine.

    It's a smart move for a taxi fleet or a person with a daily driver to a fleet of trucks.

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    #1378
    Quote Originally Posted by dvldoc View Post
    Well if it does fit that is a big fat bonus, because you now have a much larger filter.

    Almost all Nissans have that stupid lip on them so you cannot put on a larger diameter filter but if the surface is flat it will work just fine. The gaskets as 12vDC stated are pretty much the same.

    Here is a example, the B34 has the same gasket as the B233. and is just a little shorter than the B233.



    2002 Corolla oil filter mount, There appears to be no lip and a little bit of space.



    The BT223 is what the V6 engines run and is what is a direct fit on all the 4cly gas engines with no clearance issues.



    I know you can go longer but wider you would have to check for clearance, I would go ahead and get the proper size because it the B233 does not fit your not without a vehicle waiting on the part.
    doc, it was already installed by the mechanic in our innova. he said its ok and it doesnt leak. so im guessing that there are no fitment issues there. but just to be sure, i might ask the mechanic or my driver to double check it again.

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    #1379
    Gas or diesel Innova? I was wondering since if it fits that it will defiantly fit the fortuner as well. May not work for smaller cars though like the corolla.

    Looks like a tight squeeze on a D4D engine.



    If you can snap a pic.
    Last edited by dvldoc; March 4th, 2012 at 12:36 PM.

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    #1380
    i kept on thinking why is it that VIC filters has a bad filtration system... so i destroy one of vic filter i used for 12000kms using mobil delvac 1 FS oil...

    and here it is by layer:














Remote bypass oil filtration