Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[Retz]

sir if i rev up the engine, noise also increases and bumibilis din ang noise nya. possible injector noise din po ba pag ganon? sorry po kung OT..

dalhin mo na lang sa speedyfix sir para ma diagnose and check ng mabuti.

[george69]

MOTOR OIL “WEAR PROTECTION” RANKING LIST 540RAT - Tech Facts, NOT Myths

Top 10

1. 5W30 Pennzoil Ultra, API SM synthetic = 115,612 psi
I have not been able to find this oil with the latest API SN certification. The bottle says, “No leading synthetic oil provides better wear protection”. For once, a product’s hype turns out to be true. And this oil provides MORE THAN TWICE as much wear protection as the lowest ranked oil on this list.
zinc = 806 ppm
phosphorus = 812 ppm
moly = 66 ppm
calcium = 3,011 ppm
TBN = 10.3

2. 5W30 Oil Extreme, API SM conventional = 110,286 psi
The Company claims this oil contains their proprietary formula of calcium petroleum sulfontate EP (Extreme Pressure) technology that is NOT found in any other motor oil. They also claim that it will provide 5 to 7 more HP, 7 to 10% better fuel mileage, cut engine wear in half, and will extend drain intervals two or three times safely. This oil is endorsed and promoted by Tech Author David Vizard. And he was so impressed by this oil’s performance that he also became a share holder in the Company. The “Dynamic Wear Testing Under Load” performed here, supports their claim regarding wear protection. This product’s hype about that, turns out to be true.
zinc = 765 ppm
phosphorus = 624 ppm
moly = 52 ppm
calcium = 7,652 ppm
TBN = 23.2

3. 10W30 Lucas Racing Only synthetic = 106,505 psi
zinc = 2642 ppm
phosphorus = 3489 ppm
moly = 1764 ppm
calcium = 2,929 ppm
TBN = 9.0
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.

4. 5W30 Mobil 1, API SN synthetic = 105,875 psi
zinc = 801 ppm
phosphorus = 842 ppm
moly = 112 ppm
calcium = 799 ppm
TBN = 7.5

5. 0W30 Amsoil Signature Series 25,000 miles, API SN synthetic = 105,008 psi
zinc = 824 ppm
phosphorus = 960 ppm
moly = 161 ppm
calcium = 3,354 ppm
TBN = 11.4

6. 10W30 Valvoline NSL (Not Street Legal) Conventional Racing Oil = 103,846 psi
zinc = 1669 ppm
phosphorus = 1518 ppm
moly = 784 ppm
calcium = 1,607 ppm
TBN = 4.4
NOTE: This oil is suitable for short term racing use only, and is not suitable for street use.

7. 5W50 Motorcraft, API SN synthetic = 103,517 psi
zinc = 606 ppm
phosphorus = 742 ppm
moly = 28 ppm
calcium = 1,710 ppm
TBN = 6.7

8. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Conventional Racing Oil (silver bottle) = 103,505 psi
zinc = 1472 ppm
phosphorus = 1544 ppm
moly = 3 ppm
calcium = 2,707 ppm
TBN = 7.6

9. 10W30 Valvoline VR1 Synthetic Racing Oil, API SL (black bottle) = 101,139 psi
zinc = 1180 ppm
phosphorus = 1112 ppm
moly = 162 ppm
calcium = 2,664 ppm
TBN = 7.4

10. 5W30 Pennzoil, API SN conventional, yellow bottle, with Oil Extreme concentrate added in = 100,252 psi
This oil on its own WITHOUT the “Oil Extreme concentrate” added to it, has a wear protection capability of only 76,989 psi, and is ranked 53rd. But, with the concentrate added, its wear protection capability “WENT UP A WHOPPING 30.2%”. This is the first additive I’ve ever tested that actually worked as advertised.
zinc = 970 ppm
phosphorus = 749 ppm, this value is 91 ppm lower than the basic oil because the concentrate has less phosphorus in it, which dilutes the overall ppm count of the mixture.
moly = 285 ppm
calcium = 4,443 ppm
TBN = 18.8

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[raycor]

salamat mga bossing, ipon mode muna ako sa ngayon. saka ko pa check uli sa shop kung ok na budget. thanks

[trucker111]

meron pa bang pennzoil brand sa PH?

[Retz]

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Good to see valvoline oil in the list. Magandang oil din un.

[speedyfix]

true value may carry it but i'm not positive.

[Retz]

Has anyone tried using Mag1 FS oil? Gorup base IV din ba ito?

[nivraarvin]

Has anyone tried using Mag1 FS oil? Gorup base IV din ba ito?

Group IV - PAO Based
Group V - Catch-all group (POE, PAG, PFPAE, etc.) Anything that is not G1-G4.

Amsoil (Except OE, XL, Break-in)
Castrol (German made)
Liqui Moly (Lubro Moly)
Mobil 1 0w40
Mobil 1 5W50
Motul (Specific, H-Tech, 6100, 8100, 300v)
Redline (All)
Royal Purple (Except break-in)
Torco (Except TD-1 and break-in)


This is the list of Group 4 and Group 5 based synthetics that I know of. Feel free to edit pag may mali or may ma-add kayo sa list.

[speedyfix]

that list looks about right but i'm not sure about Castrol and mobil. i'm pretty sure group III lang sila but I could be wrong.

[Retz]

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Castrol edge and mobil 1? Those are expensive FS oil, kung Group 3 lang not worth it.

[nivraarvin]

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Castrol edge and mobil 1? Those are expensive FS oil, kung Group 3 lang not worth it.

that list looks about right but i'm not sure about Castrol and mobil. i'm pretty sure group III lang sila but I could be wrong.

Anything from Castrol or Mobil that is labeled fully synthetic for european models is a IV or a V, that's the rule.

From what I read, european oils that have the ACEA approval (API counterpart in europe) tend to lean more on clean emissions. So baka restricted sila sa amount ng additives na pwede ilagay.

Madami din naman group 3 na maganda. Mitsubishi TurboXP is actually a good oil, masyado lang mahal.

[igiwtf]

Anong marerecommend nyong semi synthetic for diesel bukod sa zic up at top1 sdo

[speedyfix]

Anong marerecommend nyong semi synthetic for diesel bukod sa zic up at top1 sdo

just follow the api rating that is recommended for your engine and you should be fine.

[baludoy]

Has anyone tried using Mag1 FS oil? Gorup base IV din ba ito?

i have. i currently use their 5w-30 variant paired w/ a baldwin oik filter. so far so good naman

paano ba malaman kung group 4 or group 5 siya?

ito nga pala specs niya: Product Details - Mag 1

[Retz]

Anything from Castrol or Mobil that is labeled fully synthetic for european models is a IV or a V, that's the rule.

From what I read, european oils that have the ACEA approval (API counterpart in europe) tend to lean more on clean emissions. So baka restricted sila sa amount ng additives na pwede ilagay.

Madami din naman group 3 na maganda. Mitsubishi TurboXP is actually a good oil, masyado lang mahal.

Noted on this Sir. Thanks.

[Retz]

Anong marerecommend nyong semi synthetic for diesel bukod sa zic up at top1 sdo

you could also try Kixx sir.

[nivraarvin]

Anong marerecommend nyong semi synthetic for diesel bukod sa zic up at top1 sdo

Delo 400. It's not semi synthetic but it's a very good oil.

i have. i currently use their 5w-30 variant paired w/ a baldwin oik filter. so far so good naman

paano ba malaman kung group 4 or group 5 siya?

ito nga pala specs niya: Product Details - Mag 1

MSDS nung product. I guess it's a III.

III. COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS Chemical Name
Petroleum distillates, hydrotreated heavy paraffinic
%
30 - 60
CAS #
64742-54-7

[Retz]

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True. I believe it is API rated CI-4+ na. For extended OCI.

[baludoy]

well that sucks. hehe

i was looking forward pa naman to using a bonafide true blue full synthertic lubricant when i bought those. i guess it's back to mobil 1 for me

btw, how about those valvoline 5w-30s? at the very least, group IV na ba iyong mga iyon?

[Retz]

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Valvoline FS should be Gorup IV.