Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[andrewnathaniel]

Sakin kung ramdam na mahina na humatak yung engine, kahit wala pa sa specified kilometers na natatakbo, pinapalitan ko na yung oil.

BTW, has anyone tried using Bardahl SynPower Fully Synthetic 15W-40? I'm planning to use this on D4D engine. Sa area lang namin ako naghahanap eh so kokonti lang mapapagpilian. Meron din nga palang Top 1 SDO, but currently looking for FS oils. TIA

[andrewnathaniel]

Sakin kung ramdam na mahina na humatak yung engine, kahit wala pa sa specified kilometers na natatakbo, pinapalitan ko na yung oil.

BTW, has anyone tried using Bardahl SynPower Fully Synthetic 15W-40? I'm planning to use this on D4D engine. Sa area lang namin ako naghahanap eh so kokonti lang mapapagpilian. Meron din nga palang Top 1 SDO, but currently looking for FS oils. TIA

[jaggerx3]

Sakin kung ramdam na mahina na humatak yung engine, kahit wala pa sa specified kilometers na natatakbo, pinapalitan ko na yung oil.

BTW, has anyone tried using Bardahl SynPower Fully Synthetic 15W-40? I'm planning to use this on D4D engine. Sa area lang namin ako naghahanap eh so kokonti lang mapapagpilian. Meron din nga palang Top 1 SDO, but currently looking for FS oils. TIA

Okay yang TOP1 SDO.

[Gel999]

Mas maingay ba talaga ang engine kapag fully synthetic gamit kesa sa mineral oil? On newer engines.

[Wh1stl3r]

IMO something else to be concerned about lalo na on modern turbodiesels is fuel dilution. Unlike old school diesels, multiple injections na kasi per stroke, so in theory fuel dilution might occur faster. Out of curiosity I'm going to have synthetic oil samples analyzed at 8Tkms and 10Tkms.

As to which is better, synthetic, semi or mineral it all depends on your maintenance budget and how long you want to keep the car. Even with synthetics the performance of each brand varies. In my experience Motul>Royal Purple>Mobil Delvac. Most of the time the more expensive brand is better. But still to the point of diminishing returns. Some expensive brands are just plain snake oil, like Magna***.

[andrewnathaniel]

Mas maingay ba talaga ang engine kapag fully synthetic gamit kesa sa mineral oil? On newer engines.

Ang pagkakaalam ko mas tahimik nga dapat ang engine sa fully synthetic eh

[SiRbossR]

Same lang ang noise during normal operating temp. Pag cold start, iba. It depends on the viscosity you're using an the engine you're running.

[Lew_Alcindor]

Guys, our Innova d4d currently has Toyota fully synthetic oil in it. It already ran 5,000kms the past 6 months.
Before I decided on using fully synthetic, casa service advisor said we just need to change oil filter after 5k kms if we jse synthetic. But now when I was trying to set a schedule for pms, the rep said I need to change oil since 6 months has passed.
FYI, on mineral oils, I change every 5,000kms and 6 months which fortunately coincide with each other up to now.

Would you recommend extending my synthetic oils for another 5,000kms or 6 months. We live in Laguna and daily car use is around 5-10kms with minimal traffic.



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[benchman]

Guys, our Innova d4d currently has Toyota fully synthetic oil in it. It already ran 5,000kms the past 6 months.
Before I decided on using fully synthetic, casa service advisor said we just need to change oil filter after 5k kms if we jse synthetic. But now when I was trying to set a schedule for pms, the rep said I need to change oil since 6 months has passed.

Would you recommend extending my synthetic oils for another 5,000kms or 6 months. We live in Laguna and daily car use is around 5-10kms with minimal traffic.

that service rep deserves a
you can go up to 10K kms if that's fully synthetic or a year at least. and never heard any such replacing the oil filter * 5K km if the car uses synthetic oil. ireport mo sa supervisor nya yan lekat na service rep na yan sir.

[Lew_Alcindor]

that service rep deserves a
you can go up to 10K kms if that's fully synthetic or a year at least. and never heard any such replacing the oil filter * 5K km if the car uses synthetic oil. ireport mo sa supervisor nya yan lekat na service rep na yan sir.

Actually, I am willing to change my oil filter after 5000kms even if I have fully synthetic oil in the car. So that is not an issue with me me. But to change oil i n exactly the same mileage and period of usage as when I used mineral oil is something hard to swallow considering the cost.

I already ask the one in charge of the email to ask the service advisor about this.

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[benchman]

with your given driving conditions + the protection benefits of your oil, i doubt your filter gone foul * 5K km. waste of time & money or it's just me.

[benchman]

double post

[sirkosero]

Guys, our Innova d4d currently has Toyota fully synthetic oil in it. It already ran 5,000kms the past 6 months.
Before I decided on using fully synthetic, casa service advisor said we just need to change oil filter after 5k kms if we jse synthetic. But now when I was trying to set a schedule for pms, the rep said I need to change oil since 6 months has passed.
FYI, on mineral oils, I change every 5,000kms and 6 months which fortunately coincide with each other up to now.

Would you recommend extending my synthetic oils for another 5,000kms or 6 months. We live in Laguna and daily car use is around 5-10kms with minimal traffic.



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naghahabol ng quota st comission yung service advisor kung ganyan... style talaga nila yan

[seymorebutts]

ikaw na magde decide nyan sir, since you know better, option mo na kung gusto mo patulan yung recommnedation or hindi

[andrewnathaniel]

Guys, our Innova d4d currently has Toyota fully synthetic oil in it. It already ran 5,000kms the past 6 months.
Before I decided on using fully synthetic, casa service advisor said we just need to change oil filter after 5k kms if we jse synthetic. But now when I was trying to set a schedule for pms, the rep said I need to change oil since 6 months has passed.
FYI, on mineral oils, I change every 5,000kms and 6 months which fortunately coincide with each other up to now.

Would you recommend extending my synthetic oils for another 5,000kms or 6 months. We live in Laguna and daily car use is around 5-10kms with minimal traffic.



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IMHO, mag semi-synthetic ka na lang then palit oil every 5,000kms since yung car mo having repeated short trips which is considered as severe driving condition. Okay lang sana na fully synthetic then palit ng oil every 10,000kms kung hindi nakakaranas ng severe conditions like repeated short trips and stop and go traffic.

[r_delro]

Yup...service adviser may commission kaya pilitin nila fully synthetic sa yo...

[Lew_Alcindor]

Inaantay ko lang naman reply nila. Pag ininsist nila, papacancel ko PMS ko sa casa. Maybe for good.
Set na kasi isip ko na after 15,000kms, hindi na ako pupunta sa casa.

Kaya ako napadpad sa thread na ito kasi naghahanap ako ng ok na synthetic oil at oil filter pati na din supplier near our area (any suggestions?)

[andrewnathaniel]

We have a Toyota Fort 2.5 D4D filled with Top 1 SDO, coming from semi-synthetic from casa. Sa non-casa na lang ako nagpapaservice ngayon, mas maganda pa ang serbisyo kesa sa casa. Tsinetsek nila ang Air Filter, Aircon Filter at nililinis ang brakes kahit hindi mo sabihin.

BTW, Okay naman ang response ng engine sa Top 1 SDO. May nakasabay ako Fort 3.0 D4D filled with Delo 400. Halos magkasabay lang natapos ng change oil at naobserbahan ko na mas tahimik ang engine sa Delo 400.

Wala ako matibay na basehan kung alin ang mas maganda (SDO vs Delo 400) pero ang pagkakasabi ng mechanic dun, mas maganda pa rin ang langis ng Delo 400 sa 5,000kms compared sa Top 1 SDO. Kaya next time, I'll try Delo 400 and will stick with it.

[andrewnathaniel]

We have a Toyota Fort 2.5 D4D filled with Top 1 SDO, coming from semi-synthetic from casa. Sa non-casa na lang ako nagpapaservice ngayon, mas maganda pa ang serbisyo kesa sa casa. Tsinetsek nila ang Air Filter, Aircon Filter at nililinis ang brakes kahit hindi mo sabihin.

BTW, Okay naman ang response ng engine sa Top 1 SDO. May nakasabay ako Fort 3.0 D4D filled with Delo 400. Halos magkasabay lang natapos ng change oil at naobserbahan ko na mas tahimik ang engine sa Delo 400.

Wala ako matibay na basehan kung alin ang mas maganda (SDO vs Delo 400) pero ang pagkakasabi ng mechanic dun, mas maganda pa rin ang langis ng Delo 400 sa 5,000kms compared sa Top 1 SDO. Kaya next time, I'll try Delo 400 and will stick with it.

[Noel Salisipan]

We have a Toyota Fort 2.5 D4D filled with Top 1 SDO, coming from semi-synthetic from casa. Sa non-casa na lang ako nagpapaservice ngayon, mas maganda pa ang serbisyo kesa sa casa. Tsinetsek nila ang Air Filter, Aircon Filter at nililinis ang brakes kahit hindi mo sabihin.

BTW, Okay naman ang response ng engine sa Top 1 SDO. May nakasabay ako Fort 3.0 D4D filled with Delo 400. Halos magkasabay lang natapos ng change oil at naobserbahan ko na mas tahimik ang engine sa Delo 400.

Wala ako matibay na basehan kung alin ang mas maganda (SDO vs Delo 400) pero ang pagkakasabi ng mechanic dun, mas maganda pa rin ang langis ng Delo 400 sa 5,000kms compared sa Top 1 SDO. Kaya next time, I'll try Delo 400 and will stick with it.

For me, ok lang mga oil na yan. dipende na lang kung paano mo i-maintain ang frequency ng change oil.
Kung mas gusto mong tumagal ang makina, Huwag mo ng paabutin sa 5k, 4.5k is much better lalo na kung majority ng route e sa city. kung synthetic ang gamit, maybe 9k-km is better.