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    #171
    Quote Originally Posted by jigsaw23 View Post
    Great Wall Hover 4x2 is P998k.

    Great Wall Hover 4x4 is P1.15m.

    for available colors and updated prices nationwide, check out http://elmerfrancisco.com/greatwall

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    #172
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Yeah, pati FIAT, VOLKSWAGEN, and ALFA ROMEO which are all bigger than GREATWALL, have but dissappeared. They left the car owners hanging out to dry.

    If GREATWALL, a much smaller entity, goes out of business in the country, kawawa sigurado ang mga buyers.

    Kaya buying a car from a newcomer is a BIG RISK.

    About FIAT, tinamaan kami dyan. The problem that we had at the time about FIAT is that we placed it in the people's car category of which the unit itself and the spare parts were too expensive to be labeled as people's car (compared to Kia Pride and Daihatsu Charade back then). That's why we were left with more than a hundred units unsold. What we did instead was to establish a livelihood project with a taxi line 'AFJ Transport' and opened it preferably to unemployed Las Pinas residents na gusto mamasada. Boundary-Hulog system (Their boundary is their installment for the unit). By this, we were able to dispose all the unsold units while giving livelihood to the unemployed heads of families.

    Many previous FIAT Uno clients are still in touch and most of them are still getting spare parts from us. The only problem is that they are very expensive that's why some of them would rather dispose the unit and just get a new car or a second hand newer car. But by now, the cars would almost be 20 years old, it's really time to let them rest. Pwede rin irestore kaya lang, mahal nga sobra. Mas cost efficient pa bumili ng GWPeri than to restore a FIAT.

    Again, we are still here.

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    #173
    EMDFrancisco: Mga sir pasensiya na. medyo OT pero ask ko na din at wala po kasi nag-rereply sa fiat uno thread. Available pa po ba spare parts ng 1.3 diesel fiat uno. Bukas pa po ba parts ng fiat sa francisco motors sa las pinas. ano po ba contact number? thanks a lot sir.

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    #174
    Quote Originally Posted by japong View Post
    EMDFrancisco: Mga sir pasensiya na. medyo OT pero ask ko na din at wala po kasi nag-rereply sa fiat uno thread. Available pa po ba spare parts ng 1.3 diesel fiat uno. Bukas pa po ba parts ng fiat sa francisco motors sa las pinas. ano po ba contact number? thanks a lot sir.
    Yan ang personal experience ng car owner na na-orphan at iniwanan. Scrounging around for parts and egging people for information. Buying whatever is available at a premium price. HEADACHE!

    Buying a car from an newcomer is a BIG RISK. Kawawa talaga ang ORPHAN. Think doubly hard before parting with your hard-earned cash.

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    #175
    Quote Originally Posted by japong View Post
    EMDFrancisco: Mga sir pasensiya na. medyo OT pero ask ko na din at wala po kasi nag-rereply sa fiat uno thread. Available pa po ba spare parts ng 1.3 diesel fiat uno. Bukas pa po ba parts ng fiat sa francisco motors sa las pinas. ano po ba contact number? thanks a lot sir.
    Sir, masyado na rin kasi matanda yung Fiat Uno na model natin dati. Pero depende sa parts, meron parin ibang mga available. Pls try calling Mr. Domeng Ramirez of FCC (FMC's Spare Parts arm) at 8746912 to inquire about the parts that you need. If he can't help you, just send me a private message on the parts that you need coz we might be able to assist in sourcing the necessary parts. Meron din kasing ibang nagrerestore ng Fiat Uno kaya nga lang ay mahal dahil galing pang Italy ang ibang piyesa.

    Paki post link ng Fiat Uno thread so that I could also check. Thanks!

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    #176
    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Yan ang personal experience ng car owner na na-orphan at iniwanan. Scrounging around for parts and egging people for information. Buying whatever is available at a premium price. HEADACHE!

    Buying a car from an newcomer is a BIG RISK. Kawawa talaga ang ORPHAN. Think doubly hard before parting with your hard-earned cash.
    In fairness, that's true. But not ONLY true for new comers as many people, myself included, are having a hard time getting parts for 1988 Mercedes Benz 260E. It's not because MB is no longer there, they are strong and kicking but with new models. It's hard because the parts we are looking for is for a model that is already very old just like the Fiat Uno. The manufacturers no longer produce the parts or some produce only a limited number at a very high price.

    It is still recommended to replace old cars after a couple of years or at least before the car troubles come-in. Again, it's only a personal recommendation. Baka kasi may mag violet reaction. hehe

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    #177
    Quote Originally Posted by EMDFrancisco View Post
    Now, we are getting constructive unlike the previous most recent posts which sound more like accusations than constructive thoughts.

    I am not in any position to speak on behalf of Chery but in my own personal opinion, the problem is that the investment is foreign 'from Hong Kong' kaya wala silang pakialam kung ano ang mangyari after nila mag pull-out. They even terminated the only Filipino top executive in their company that is a real car enthusiast and who really cares about the clients. Same thing with Ford and GM in the 1980's when they pulled out because of the economic crisis back then. Also BMW who just recently pulled out leaving the dealers on their own.

    It may not be the only reason, but the distributor being a foreign investor is a big factor as they really wouldn't give a s**t about us Filipinos who buy their products. All they care about is to cover their own asses.

    Good thing Statemotor, which is the distributor, is a domestic corporation and as far as I know has a 100% Filipino equity. And being in the financial industry since the 1970's, they really know how to conduct credit investigations.

    But investment is just one part of the story. The other major part is the support of the market. If the market will not accept, support and give the new and very promising products a chance to see daylight, it will be useless.

    So let's hope for the best.
    Like I've said before it was not an accusation but only friendly advice. Not all foreign investors only "care about is to cover their own asses", some of our local brethren do that too then pass the blame to their underlings.

    Let's hope Statemotor's credit investigations can weed out the frauds and swindlers when they give out dealerships although I'm having doubts about that. I guess only time will tell since as of this moment there are a total of ZERO showrooms or dealerships for Great Wall Motors.

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    #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenomorph2007 View Post
    Like I've said before it was not an accusation but only friendly advice. Not all foreign investors only "care about is to cover their own asses", some of our local brethren do that too then pass the blame to their underlings.

    Let's hope Statemotor's credit investigations can weed out the frauds and swindlers when they give out dealerships although I'm having doubts about that. I guess only time will tell since as of this moment there are a total of ZERO showrooms or dealerships for Great Wall Motors.
    My friend, that is exactly why to date there are still only 3 accredited dealers (ON PAPER) out of many applicants nationwide coz na-weed out yung mga walang liquid and clean cash na maipakita coz cash basis ang dealership and not credit based para more stable.

    No showrooms yet because Statemotor is finishing up its set-up as well for before, during and after sales. Walang soft opening para pag may bumili, maaalagaan talaga ang clients before, during and after sales. Para masigurado ang continuity ng business. When everything is ready, dealerships will open their doors to the market. Slowly but surely. Be patient.
    Last edited by EMDFrancisco; October 9th, 2009 at 10:38 AM. Reason: typo error

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    #179
    It is always a good news to hear new investments, sana mag prosper kayo! Para mabawasan ang un-employment rate natin! :D

    Sana mag export din kayo... ? The bigger the volume the more cheaper to assemble!

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    #180
    Quote Originally Posted by KCMenteryo View Post
    It is always a good news to hear new investments, sana mag prosper kayo! Para mabawasan ang un-employment rate natin! :D

    Sana mag export din kayo... ? The bigger the volume the more cheaper to assemble!
    Correct. and sana nga they immediately go into assembly to put more local value added to their products...

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