Great Wall Cars Philippines

[EMDFrancisco]

saan nga po ba sa cagayan de oro? parang may nakita ako pero di ko maalala kung saan yun.., hehe

Carmen area. But no signs yet. Dealership will put signages pag dating ng cars dun. Also, sayang ang business permits kung may mga signages na then wala pang display units coz malapit na rin mag end of the year. Doble doble bayad.

[EMDFrancisco]

wow. this is great news. employment for filipinos. especially if you start bringing in CKDs. hopefully it gets to the point that you export to other asean countries as well and you generate more jobs and income to the philippines.

good luck on this venture!

Hopefully. It will also depend of the government regulations. Maski may lack of support, we still have to follow the laws. But hopefully...

Thank you for the support!

[EMDFrancisco]

Agree!

I hope * EMDFrancisco you will immediately focus from just assembly of SKD but go into CKDs with more local parts. This will help in ensuring more Pinoy employment and local value added.

Hi!

We have people working on the KD arrangement with BOI kung ano ang legally possible and most beneficial to our market and to our employees and to the country as a whole. Hopefully mapabilis ng konti.

Thanks!

[jpdm]

Hi!

We have people working on the KD arrangement with BOI kung ano ang legally possible and most beneficial to our market and to our employees and to the country as a whole. Hopefully mapabilis ng konti.

Thanks!

I think Elizabeth Lee, already spelled out her idea of allowing and expanding the membership of CAMPI with the entry of Chinese auto companies. Mr Hernandez of BOI is supporting the same idea.

Sana we can see the return of FMC in CAMPI via Great Wall of China.

I see alot of potential in this company.

Sana, you can arrange with Great wall to put (even SKD)more Philippine made parts from MVPMAP ( Yazaki-Torres, Yokohama,Motolite, Roberts etc.)

[Xenomorph2007]

Hahaha! I don't have a pyramid. Common sense... If I had a pyramid, I should have had the billions as well. It's directly proportional.

And as for your advice, it is well taken, in a positive way, even if sounds like an accusation. However, those minor details don’t usually reach me. That’s why there are two whole departments with competent employees under the Purchasing and Accounting Departments. There is also a Middle Management under the Admin Department that oversee those departments of which are audited quarterly.

Anyway, I take accusations lightly especially if they are not true. But be careful with serious accusations as it disrupts wholesome and constructive forums like this one. And what does it have to do with the Topic, “Great Wall vehicles”? We haven’t even started selling yet.

Minor details? I don't think you can categorize not paying suppliers as a "minor detail". But hey if that's the way you run your business it's none of our concern. It's not an accusation by the way, I'm just giving out free advice. I wish you the best of luck sir.

[EMDFrancisco]

Minor details? I don't think you can categorize not paying suppliers as a "minor detail". But hey if that's the way you run your business it's none of our concern. It's not an accusation by the way, I'm just giving out free advice. I wish you the best of luck sir.

Hi Xenomorph2007!

Yes, suppliers must always be paid. Just as much that we must be paid by our clients.

About the thing "minor detail" ...Everything is relative. A minor thing for someone may not be minor for another. Just like a hero for someone is a terrorist for some at the same time. It really depends on where you're coming from or your point of reference.

Let me give you a bit of information on capitalism from a single point of view of operations.
1. In a small or micro enterprise (whether single proprietorship, partnership, cooperative or corporation), the proprietor/partners/members/stockholders does majority of the business transactions such as sales, basic accounting, purchasing, administration, etc. with a little help from a secretary and other staffs. Some grow from an informal organization into a formal one with departments and middle managements as the business grows and the transactions couldn't be handled by the owner/s alone. But still, the bulk of the burden and hard work is still with the owner/s.
2. In a medium enterprise, the concept is the same but it's just a lot more complicated due to the volume of transactions but a 'business system' keeps everything seem simple. The top management, moreover, the board only receives narrative reports with some illustrations and graphs on how the management team is performing in terms of assets, liabilities, profits and losses. Then orders the management to do better and submit a better report next meeting.
3. In a large enterprise, it's a medium enterprise x100 to infinity in terms of operations and transactions. In a business with this magnitude (medium and large enterprises), this means that a grievance of a single or a handful of dissatisfied supplier/s or client/s does not constitute majority of the total market or operations. You cannot please everybody and there are external factors that affect everything.

That makes it a 'minor detail' when you have more constructive things to focus on rather than to bug yourself down with details when you are paying employees (under the concerned departments) to handle those details.

But since you said that it's not an accusation, well then, thank you for your free advice and wish of luck! Can we now move on to the real topic at hand?

[uls]

haha

in short, Mr. Francisco is saying -- it isnt the fault of the people who own the "large enterprise" if the company fails to pay suppliers

it's the fault of the purchasing department

[Xenomorph2007]

Hi Xenomorph2007!

Yes, suppliers must always be paid. Just as much that we must be paid by our clients.

About the thing "minor detail" ...Everything is relative. A minor thing for someone may not be minor for another. Just like a hero for someone is a terrorist for some at the same time. It really depends on where you're coming from or your point of reference.

Let me give you a bit of information on capitalism from a single point of view of operations.
1. In a small or micro enterprise (whether single proprietorship, partnership, cooperative or corporation), the proprietor/partners/members/stockholders does majority of the business transactions such as sales, basic accounting, purchasing, administration, etc. with a little help from a secretary and other staffs. Some grow from an informal organization into a formal one with departments and middle managements as the business grows and the transactions couldn't be handled by the owner/s alone. But still, the bulk of the burden and hard work is still with the owner/s.
2. In a medium enterprise, the concept is the same but it's just a lot more complicated due to the volume of transactions but a 'business system' keeps everything seem simple. The top management, moreover, the board only receives narrative reports with some illustrations and graphs on how the management team is performing in terms of assets, liabilities, profits and losses. Then orders the management to do better and submit a better report next meeting.
3. In a large enterprise, it's a medium enterprise x100 to infinity in terms of operations and transactions. In a business with this magnitude (medium and large enterprises), this means that a grievance of a single or a handful of dissatisfied supplier/s or client/s does not constitute majority of the total market or operations. You cannot please everybody and there are external factors that affect everything.

That makes it a 'minor detail' when you have more constructive things to focus on rather than to bug yourself down with details when you are paying employees (under the concerned departments) to handle those details.

But since you said that it's not an accusation, well then, thank you for your free advice and wish of luck! Can we now move on to the real topic at hand?

Wow...that's a very long explanation for basically blaming your employees for the "top managements" fault/s . That's awesome of you sir.

Para hindi tayo OT. I'm excited about new cars be it China made or Vietnam made. The important thing is the support of the dealers and the distributor. Dapat credible at reliable yung kunin nilang tao. Wag lang takbuhan yung suppliers at customers.

[nitrox]

Wow too, I hope the non-payment of suppliers will not jeopardize the company's credit rating and impact its production. Anyway, I hope Great Wall vehicles will somehow diminish the negative bias against Chinese-made cars. Probably this can be done with exceptional after-sales support.

[EMDFrancisco]

haha

in short, Mr. Francisco is saying -- it isnt the fault of the people who own the "large enterprise" if the company fails to pay suppliers

it's the fault of the purchasing department

Hindi naman sa ganon and wala tayong sinisisi. It is still our command responsibility. Ang meaning ko lang is that hindi lahat ng details ay umaabot pa sa amin at may mga ganyang detalye na hindi na kami aware dahil nareresolve din yan usually sa department level. I'm confident na kung meron man ganyang nangyari sa amin before, it must have already been resolved by now. Wala namang perfect and lahat ng bagay ay nadadaan sa magandang usapan.

[jpdm]

*EMDFrancisco

Im hoping FMC will be back with the help of Great Wall Motors of China. Its because judging from the photos of their models, they look really good. maybe putting some OEM parts made in the Philippines will make them alot better

[EMDFrancisco]

*EMDFrancisco

Im hoping FMC will be back with the help of Great Wall Motors of China. Its because judging from the photos of their models, they look really good. maybe putting some OEM parts made in the Philippines will make them alot better

Thank you for your inputs. Hopefully maayos na ang mga necessary permits for our KD department so we could already implement programs that you are suggesting.

[EMDFrancisco]

I think Elizabeth Lee, already spelled out her idea of allowing and expanding the membership of CAMPI with the entry of Chinese auto companies. Mr Hernandez of BOI is supporting the same idea.

Sana we can see the return of FMC in CAMPI via Great Wall of China.

I see alot of potential in this company.

Sana, you can arrange with Great wall to put (even SKD)more Philippine made parts from MVPMAP ( Yazaki-Torres, Yokohama,Motolite, Roberts etc.)

Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the return of FMC in CAMPI but more on the entry of Statemotor Corporation in CAMPI 'if ever'. Statemotor Corporation is the main proponent in the Great Wall Motor project.

Use of Philippine made parts is really the best option when we go to KD dahil madaming Philippine made parts and products na mas maganda at mas matibay pa kaysa sa Chinese made.

100% Philippine made vehicles is the ultimate goal of every Filipino in the automotive industry. But there are still many obstacles that we should circumnavigate before we could succeed in that premise. If it's that easy, siguradong nagawa na yon ng MVPMAP or any of the CAMPI members and naka take-off na yon by now. But just like what MVPMAP did with their PhUV, great cooperation is really essential to be able to do it. Kailangan din ng malaking budget to come up with a very nice design, to meet the safety standards and maging fully functional close to perfection para tangkilikin din ng market. Then, tsaka na mag mass production. We will get there but I still can't tell how long.

[EMDFrancisco]

Para hindi tayo OT. I'm excited about new cars be it China made or Vietnam made. The important thing is the support of the dealers and the distributor. Dapat credible at reliable yung kunin nilang tao. Wag lang takbuhan yung suppliers at customers.

Wow too, I hope the non-payment of suppliers will not jeopardize the company's credit rating and impact its production. Anyway, I hope Great Wall vehicles will somehow diminish the negative bias against Chinese-made cars. Probably this can be done with exceptional after-sales support.

Let me assure you that Statemotor Corporation, under the leadership of Mr. Allen Roxas, has more than enough capital to start with and hires the best people for the respective jobs be it in operations, administration, production, accounting, etc. Statemotor Corporation is a subsidiary of State Properties and State Properties is owned by State Investment Trust Inc. which had been in business since the 1970s. Teaming up with FMC which had been in the automotive industry since 1947, this venture will go a long way.

With this, we are bringing in the best variant of every Great Wall vehicle models so as to give the Filipino people the best that China can offer as of today. But together with Great Wall Motor Company Ltd and the help of the local automotive industry, we will strive to make these products even better.

[Xenomorph2007]

Let me assure you that Statemotor Corporation, under the leadership of Mr. Allen Roxas, has more than enough capital to start with and hires the best people for the respective jobs be it in operations, administration, production, accounting, etc. Statemotor Corporation is a subsidiary of State Properties and State Properties is owned by State Investment Trust Inc. which had been in business since the 1970s. Teaming up with FMC which had been in the automotive industry since 1947, this venture will go a long way.

With this, we are bringing in the best variant of every Great Wall vehicle models so as to give the Filipino people the best that China can offer as of today. But together with Great Wall Motor Company Ltd and the help of the local automotive industry, we will strive to make these products even better.

All the best people in the world will be for nothing if the dealers and after-sales support suck. Statemotor has to make sure that their dealers do not take their customers money and run. Kawawa naman si Mr. Roxas kung mangyari yun.

[marg]

All the best people in the world will be for nothing if the dealers and after-sales support suck. Statemotor has to make sure that their dealers do not take their customers money and run. Kawawa naman si Mr. Roxas kung mangyari yun.

Mas kawawa ang mga bumili ng Great Wall cars.

[jpdm]

Unfortunately, it wouldn't be the return of FMC in CAMPI but more on the entry of Statemotor Corporation in CAMPI 'if ever'. Statemotor Corporation is the main proponent in the Great Wall Motor project.

Use of Philippine made parts is really the best option when we go to KD dahil madaming Philippine made parts and products na mas maganda at mas matibay pa kaysa sa Chinese made.

100% Philippine made vehicles is the ultimate goal of every Filipino in the automotive industry. But there are still many obstacles that we should circumnavigate before we could succeed in that premise. If it's that easy, siguradong nagawa na yon ng MVPMAP or any of the CAMPI members and naka take-off na yon by now. But just like what MVPMAP did with their PhUV, great cooperation is really essential to be able to do it. Kailangan din ng malaking budget to come up with a very nice design, to meet the safety standards and maging fully functional close to perfection para tangkilikin din ng market. Then, tsaka na mag mass production. We will get there but I still can't tell how long.

Will it be a joint venture or it will be State Motors only for Great wall?

[EMDFrancisco]

All the best people in the world will be for nothing if the dealers and after-sales support suck. Statemotor has to make sure that their dealers do not take their customers money and run. Kawawa naman si Mr. Roxas kung mangyari yun.

At last we agree on something. You are correct. That is why the dealer selection process and credit investigation is very thorough, very strategic and very strict.

[EMDFrancisco]

Will it be a joint venture or it will be State Motors only for Great wall?

Statemotor Corporation only. FMC cannot be the proponent as FMC is strictly for Jeepneys and Anfras (and Mazda before). Just like before, Hyundai and Fiat were under a different corporation. Only this time, the part of Francisco in Great Wall Motor vehicles is more on the technical and marketing side.

[EMDFrancisco]

By the way Xenomorph2007, it seems to me that you just created your particular tsikot.com account last August 31, 2009 to sabotage and disrupt this previously peaceful and constructive forum. If you have personal issues, I suggest that you air your grievances elsewhere and let the peace loving car enthusiasts, like us in this forum, continue to constructively contribute to the betterment of the automotive industry. Sa barangay ka nalang magreklamo.