E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[tidus1203]

^^E10 is from Shell and some other small gas companies like Seaoil has them. Pero among BIG 3 its only Shell who has it. Basically its a 90% unleaded gas and 10% ethanol mixture and its P2/L cheaper. I have already tried E10 on Civic FD as well, immediate consequence is the lack of acceleration is quite apparent. Kung baga, I need to step a bit harder to get the same acceleration I get from regular unleaded. And at least for me, others have different experience, my fuel economy suffered as well with E10. So I still use regular unleaded. You don't really need to use XCS for your Civic since nakalagay naman sa manual 91 RON ang requirement, regular unleaded is already 93 RON so it should be sufficient. Its just a waste of money to use higher octane gas like XCS, Gold, or V-Power for the Civic FD.

[mavsn]

thanks sir tidus! e ano po ung regular unleaded
na gamit nyo sa FD nyo, shell po ba?

[tidus1203]

Iba iba mavsn, dati when gas prices were stable I use Petron, Caltex and Shell basta ano malapit normally Petron kasi may credit card discount ako. Pero nung nag-start magkaroon ng P1.50 increase weekly sa mga small unknown gas stations (Cityoil, rarely Jetti) lang ako kasi mas mura kaysa BIG 3.

Regular Unleaded is the one with 93RON. Petron calls it Xtra Unleaded, Caltex calls it Silver, and Shell calls it Super Unleaded. Basta sabihin mo lang sa boy na regular unleaded alam na nila yun...

[mavsn]

okidok. thank you sir tidus!
mamaya mag-e-xtra unleaded na ko,hehe.

[userfriendly]

Petron is now selling E10.

Zero-tariff on oil, new Petron product may lead to cheaper pump prices
06/16/2008 | 04:04 PM

MANILA, Philippines- A new product from the country's largest oil firm, and the renewal of the zero-tariff on imported fuel, has the potential to ease oil prices by P3.50 in the coming weeks.

Petron Corp., the country’s largest oil refiner, formally introduced on Monday its ethanol blended gasoline, which is P2 per liter cheaper than regular gasoline.

At the launch of Petron's E10 Premium, Energy Secretary Angelo Reyes said Petron’s new product will not only be environment-friendly but will be a welcome development amid the continuing increase in the country’s pump prices as this will be cheaper

Aside from the P2 per liter drop in gasoline prices from Petron gas stations, the DOE is also set to certify anew a zero-percent tariff cut on imported crude oil which will result in a P1.50 per liter reduction in diesel prices by July 1.

To be able to offer the ethanol blend, Petron imported 38,000 liters of ethanol from Brazil since production of the biofuel in the Philippines has yet to start.

E10 Premium will be offered in the following Metro Manila stations: Visayas Avenue , Quezon City ; Marcos Hi-way (Westbound), Pasig City ; Marcos Hi-way (Eastbound), Pasig City ; A. Santos Ave , Paranaque ; San Marcelino Paco Manila; Quezon Avenue , Quezon City ; Osmena Hi-way. Makati ; Shaw Blvd. , Pasig City; Macapagal Ave. , Pasay City; West Service Road, Paranaque; Circumferential Road, Antipolo; FB Harrison, Manila; Boni Ave,. Mandaluyong; and Ortigas Extension, Taytay Rizal

By the end of this year or early next year, Petron would likely source its ethanol blend requirements from the local market, the company said.

Petron chairman Nicasio Alcantara said San Carlos Bioenergy Inc. will start supplying the oil company’s ethanol requirement. San Carlos and Petron have a 10-year exclusive supply contract of ethanol.

Alcantara said they are also negotiating with Leyte-Agri Corp. for a supply of nine million liters.

“The early introduction of Petron E10 Premium ahead of the government’s mandate is part of our efforts to promote the use of environment-friendly alternative fuels that can be produced locally. Once available in the country, the use of ethanol as an additive to gasoline will lessen our dependence on imported oil," Alcantara said.

Petron E10 Premium may be used in majority of fuel-injected vehicles, whether old or new. It can be used without the need for expensive engine modification. Before filling up with E-10 Premium, however, it is advisable to refer to your car manual or to consult with your car dealer. - GMANews.TV

But if it is only 2 pesos cheaper than unleaded, then its only 3.5% cheaper.

[tidus1203]

Its just the same as Shell is offering, nothing new there...

[userfriendly]

Its just the same as Shell is offering, nothing new there...

Yeah its the same bannana. But at least Petron is complying with the alternative fuel law, autogas, biodiesel and e10. So among the big 3 its only caltex that isnt selling e10.

[tidus1203]

Oh one day they will...

[rfb_arki]

been using E10 based fuels, 1st with Seaoil and now Shell for the past 3 years...no problem whatsoever...my car is an old mazda 1.3 carb...

[1D4LV]

ma try nga itong nasa petron. baka i can get better mileage using this compared to shell's. (although i doubt if i will, but i have to try to find out...)