For a price tag of 1.2M, is the 2017 DMax 4x2 AT a good buy? Or should I get the Navarra Calibre 4x2 AT price at 1.096M?

**fulcrum325** · October 5th, 2016 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Walter

Buy the Nissan Juke that you're eyeing and then buy an old beater for farm use ...

Ok din sana kaso hirap din mag hanap ng good condition. Also the price minsan is good enuf for a bnew DP. Actually my father have the fortuner which we can swap if needed yun pickup.

Kung ako lang personal use, Jimny lang ok na sa akin :-)

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**fulcrum325** · October 5th, 2016 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by tsupermario

Recently conversed with a ford agent and she mentioned in passing about big discounts sa rangers this BER months.

Sir pa PM naman yan SA na yan pra makausap ko

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**StockEngine** · October 5th, 2016 11:56 AM

Hilux(new generation) proven reliability? 1yo palang...transmission issue na 🙊

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**fulcrum325** · October 5th, 2016 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by stv13

Dmax - loaded
Navara - car like ride
Ranger - pogi
Hilux - proven reliability

Mahirap mamili talaga...

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If u can only combine all in a single choice

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**fulcrum325** · October 5th, 2016 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

Hilux(new generation) proven reliability? 1yo palang...transmission issue na 🙊

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Known issue and software correction lang naman daw. And it's not a mechanical issue per se so as they said.

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**StockEngine** · October 5th, 2016 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by fulcrum325

Known issue and software correction lang naman daw. And it's not a mechanical issue per se so as they said.

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Toyota approved transmission changes. And there is a new part number..

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**fulcrum325** · October 5th, 2016 12:11 PM

Wow as in changing the whole transmission? Imagine the down time of the owner

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**Lakwatsero** · October 5th, 2016 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by stv13

Dmax - loaded
Navara - car like ride
Ranger - pogi
Hilux - proven reliability

Mahirap mamili talaga...

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D-Max reliability is severely underrated. It's Toyota reliability minus the Toyota tax. Since its launch, I haven't read or heard any major problems here or abroad. It's the best-selling truck in pick-up crazy Thailand.

Hilux on the other hand has had issues aforementioned. Reliability still solid but it's severely overpriced for what it's worth. No projectors, drl, reverse sensors, camera, list goes on. At least it has a laggy touchscreen from avt, something the Navara doesn't have lol.

The Strada is value but wouldn't want to keep changing the timing belt every 80k. If the 4x2 had the mivec, would be at the top of my list.

Having said that, the Navara still feels the most balanced for hauling and family use. Just add-on the stuff lacking with the savings. Reliability is okay, just watch out for the alternator if this still has the same as the d40's.

**fulcrum325** · October 6th, 2016 01:26 AM

Ok my only gripe about the 2017 Dmax is its still euro 2 engine.

Is this a big deal?

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**jut703** · October 6th, 2016 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Lakwatsero

D-Max reliability is severely underrated. It's Toyota reliability minus the Toyota tax. Since its launch, I haven't read or heard any major problems here or abroad. It's the best-selling truck in pick-up crazy Thailand.

Hilux on the other hand has had issues aforementioned. Reliability still solid but it's severely overpriced for what it's worth. No projectors, drl, reverse sensors, camera, list goes on. At least it has a laggy touchscreen from avt, something the Navara doesn't have lol.

Personally, the Hilux's modern interior design and better materials are more appealing than the Dmax's toys. It's not on the spec sheets, but the Hilux really feels more premium than the Dmax.

Also, the 70k difference is somewhat justified because the Hilux's engine is quieter and much more refined than the Dmax's clattery 3.0.

If the Hilux G is too pricey, the Hilux E is a great alternative at 1.030M. It's very bare in stock form, but if you add 20" rims, a rear bumper, and step boards, you still won't reach 1.1M so it'll still be cheaper than any other pickup. It still has the same 2.4 engine, Bluetooth, steering wheel audio controls, ABS, and so on. I even like its Kenwood HU better than the AVT HU on the G.

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