"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[jhnkvn]

^thanks ulit sir, excited na ko bukas.. I'll meet sir ED mamaya para sa 476 and KAIO +KSG.

kakayanin ba ng clay yung mga asphalt/bug? or kailangan ko bumili ng separate pang tangal nun pag di kinaya?

I will not suggest using clay for asphalt and bugs. In fact, san ka ba nakakuha ng bug marks? Those are infrequent sa Metro Manila but should be rather common if you're doing provincial trips.

For asphalt, use kerosene to soften them and just remove them using water (use your fingernails or a terry if needed).

Truthfully, I will not recommend purchasing a clay bar. I personally find it more attractive to simply let a detailing shop do your claying even if you consider the "patong" they do.

Why?
- You'll run out of QD as lubrication unless you have a lot of them. I'd say after 2-3 applications, ubos na probably QD mo.
- One mistake and you're out. Dropped the clay? That's good as throwing it out na.
- You only clay like every quarter. In fact, I only clay once or twice a year.

P.S. Patanong na rin kay Sir Ed kung may mga exotic waxes siya on sale

[monty_GTV]

^thanks ulit sir, excited na ko bukas.. I'll meet sir ED mamaya para sa 476 and KAIO +KSG.

kakayanin ba ng clay yung mga asphalt/bug? or kailangan ko bumili ng separate pang tangal nun pag di kinaya?

ok pala if you will meet sir ED. i'm sure he will give you answers to all your questions regarding the detailing items you want to use. again, enjoy detailing!

[system32]

I will not suggest using clay for asphalt and bugs. In fact, san ka ba nakakuha ng bug marks? Those are infrequent sa Metro Manila but should be rather common if you're doing provincial trips.

For asphalt, use kerosene to soften them and just remove them using water (use your fingernails or a terry if needed).

Truthfully, I will not recommend purchasing a clay bar. I personally find it more attractive to simply let a detailing shop do your claying even if you consider the "patong" they do.

Why?
- You'll run out of QD as lubrication unless you have a lot of them. I'd say after 2-3 applications, ubos na probably QD mo.
- One mistake and you're out. Dropped the clay? That's good as throwing it out na.
- You only clay like every quarter. In fact, I only clay once or twice a year.

P.S. Patanong na rin kay Sir Ed kung may mga exotic waxes siya on sale

^thanks sa tips sir! naku di ko na natanong now ko lang nabasa post mo.hehe actually, first time ko lang din mag cclay, 4months na sa akin pero 6k kms na sa odo ko.hehe madalas kasi umuwi ng province (pangasinan/la-union/bulacan). di ko pala natanong kung nageexpire ba yun or paano tamang storage since mejo matagal tagal di siya magagamit..

kung meron interesado na wala pang clay bar, hatian ko nalang kayo.hehe laki nung clay bar na nabili ko kay sir ed.

*monty_gtv thanks sir, sarap mag back read, mga 5days na ko puyat/2am natutulog kakabasa dito/sa PD/autogeek.hehehe

[miqmiq21]

kung meron interesado na wala pang clay bar, hatian ko nalang kayo.hehe laki nung clay bar na nabili ko kay sir ed

Hello sir system 22 how much do u sell your half clay bar? Heheh interested po ak,,, kesa bumili ak ng buo hehe san po location nyo pla? Tia!

[monty_GTV]

^thanks sa tips sir! naku di ko na natanong now ko lang nabasa post mo.hehe actually, first time ko lang din mag cclay, 4months na sa akin pero 6k kms na sa odo ko.hehe madalas kasi umuwi ng province (pangasinan/la-union/bulacan). di ko pala natanong kung nageexpire ba yun or paano tamang storage since mejo matagal tagal di siya magagamit..

kung meron interesado na wala pang clay bar, hatian ko nalang kayo.hehe laki nung clay bar na nabili ko kay sir ed.

*monty_gtv thanks sir, sarap mag back read, mga 5days na ko puyat/2am natutulog kakabasa dito/sa PD/autogeek.hehehe

kelan ka nasa pangasinan lakay/aro? 1 lang ba na malaking clay bar? yung mothers kasi 2 clay bars saka 1 spray bottle ng clay lube ang kasama. medyo pricey yun saka tama si jhnkvn, madaling maubos yung clay lube. I use optimum no rinse o ONR diluted sa water mas tipid.

[system32]

kung meron interesado na wala pang clay bar, hatian ko nalang kayo.hehe laki nung clay bar na nabili ko kay sir ed

Hello sir system 22 how much do u sell your half clay bar? Heheh interested po ak,,, kesa bumili ak ng buo hehe san po location nyo pla? Tia!

Nakuha ko sir kay sir Ed ng 1k so bale hati lang tayo sa binayaran ko QC area ako sir, tapat ng sm north.

sasagutin ko na yung dapat na itatanong ko sana about claybar.hehe
akala ko ang pag -apply ng claybar parang ipapahid mo lang as is, may tamang way pala,nakalimutan ko din itanong kay sir ed kanina sa sobrang dami ko tinanong.haha
How to use detailing clay

Fold and refold the clay bar often. When the clay appears dirty, fold it until you see clean clay. It's safe to keep using the same clay bar until it has no clean surface area left.

since mejo matagal siya hindi magagamit, ganito pala tamang pagstore..

Store the clay bar in its original case if possible, or in an airtight plastic bag. Spray it with lubricant to keep it moist. Do not allow the clay to freeze and do not store it in temperatures above 200° F.

^hindi kaya magkaroon ito ng molds pag natago ng matagal or atleast kahit once a month ilabas then lagyan ng lubricant? sayang kasi kung masisira lang pag natago ng matagal..

[system32]

question lang ulit sana, ok lang ba na hindi na tangalin muna yung mga swirls/micro scratches? basta ang mahalaga matanggal mga asphalts/tar/above surface contaminants before i-apply yung AIO+KSG? parang nabasa ko ata na hindi ganoon ka aggressive yung Meg Swirl X 2.0..

about sa kerosene, available ba ito sa mga gas stations or sa hardware(parang natanong ko dati sa ace sinusuggest nila is thinner/lacquer thinner)? nagtanong kasi ako dito sa shell malapit sa amin, wala daw sila.

and also, ok lang ba apply ang kerosene before mag wash, para isang linisan na lang?

[red_one]

it depends kung ano objective mo. if you just want to clean and protect the paint, then wash & wax pwede na. but if show car finish ang main goal mo, you need to remove the swirls. i use Meg Ultimate Polish. it is based on Meg 205 but with less polish and more glaze.

kerosene is available in most gas stations. you can apply it before washing the car.

[system32]

^Thanks chief, try ko muna si KAIO baka kayanin.

[red_one]

KAIO will make the swirls less noticeable but will not remove them. you can use KAIO habang wala ka pang polishing product or if kaunti pa lang naman ang swirls.. just hide it.

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[jhnkvn]

question lang ulit sana, ok lang ba na hindi na tangalin muna yung mga swirls/micro scratches? basta ang mahalaga matanggal mga asphalts/tar/above surface contaminants before i-apply yung AIO+KSG? parang nabasa ko ata na hindi ganoon ka aggressive yung Meg Swirl X 2.0..

about sa kerosene, available ba ito sa mga gas stations or sa hardware(parang natanong ko dati sa ace sinusuggest nila is thinner/lacquer thinner)? nagtanong kasi ako dito sa shell malapit sa amin, wala daw sila.

and also, ok lang ba apply ang kerosene before mag wash, para isang linisan na lang?

Yeah, no problem naman. I usually tell people to "accumulate" their scratches first para isang polish job lang kilangan mo. Doing paint correction every quarter of the year is kinda overkill. If you're just in for the protection, just layering your wax is enough na. But if you want a car that shines every time you clean it, it's time to remove those imperfections out.

Sa kerosene, you can buy these sa mga gas stations. Just ask for their pricing per liter (unless you plan on buying bulk). Kung wala yun Shell, ask around.. some gas stations have them. Impossible wala.. kerosene is kinda an essential petroleum distillate really.

Kung wala ka kerosene, then use a WD40. You're bound to have one of those sa bahay (useful for overall lubrication really). Just spray, let it stay a while, and rinse it with water THEN you wash your car. So yes, it's okay.

[miqmiq21]

Thanks sa offer sir system,,, kala ko bago pa pag hahatian ntn mejo my katagalan n pla anyway thankyou po sa offer,, ano po ba mga binebenta ni sir ed?

And ask k lng po mga fellow tsikoter ano po ba alternative sa claybar? Tia!

[sparkfly]

Maybe try nanoskin speedy prep sponge as an alternative to clay. Haven't tried it but read good reviews abt it.

This might have been answered before. Where do you guys buy your klasse twins? I saw a seller in olx fr manila once pero wala na ngayon.


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[miqmiq21]

Maybe try nanoskin speedy prep sponge as an alternative to clay. Haven't tried it but read good reviews abt it.

This might have been answered before. Where do you guys buy your klasse twins? I saw a seller in olx fr manila once pero wala na ngayon.


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Yeah kay ginnova ko nga balak kumuha nun sir anyway salamat po sa reply

Safe po ba kerosene for clay substitute?

Un klasse po madami sa olx other info sa bigberts daw meron sabi po dito sa aking pag kaka back read sa forum

[monty_GTV]

Yeah kay ginnova ko nga balak kumuha nun sir anyway salamat po sa reply

Safe po ba kerosene for clay substitute?

Un klasse po madami sa olx other info sa bigberts daw meron sabi po dito sa aking pag kaka back read sa forum

got some of my detailing items from ginnova too like polising pads and ONR...

I have not use kerosene yet medyo adamant ako na gamitin pero ok daw pantanggal ng asphalt. I am using a degreaser instead from DIY shop on my paint surface prior to washing especially kung gusto ko I-stripped yung sealant o wax na dating nakalagay. I used it in my engine, wheel wells and rims and tanggal lahat ng grimes.

you can buy naman yung klasse in any of the olx sellers but most likely they will sell the pair of KAIO and KSG. just buy the 8oz container, it will last for a very long time especially the KSG. got mine for more than 2 years now di pa rin nakalahati yung KSG

btw, I only do polishing and complete paint correction every 6 months or more. di na ako tamang OC kasi nakakatamad at nakakapagod din there will come a time you will grow over your itch sa pag-detail. as long as I have it applied with sealant or wax I know protected na yung paint. mostly naman ng swirls at minor scratches nakukuha sa washing. if you are fond of those car wash shops sa mga gilid ng daan then most likely candidate yung car mo sa swirls i'd rather wash my cars or if nasa abroad ako its my wife duty to do it lols! as long as you know the proper washing and drying then ma-minimize mo naman yung swirls. enjoy detailing guys...

[bloowolf]

I remember using kerosene based carwax on my first car after having it repainted in the early 90's. It faded the acrylic paint. Nowadays, I just use WD40. Spray, wipe off then use car shampoo to remove residue.

[red_one]

yeah, WD40 is so useful on so many things and the smell is fine.

[system32]

^Thanks, hide ko nalang muna, konti palang naman yung nakikita ko.

[system32]

*miqmiq21
bago pa yun sir, di ko pa nagamit at nasa plastic pa.hehe microtex products, klasse twins, optimum at marami pa siya ibang binebenta.

[Francis Mendoza]

Hello mga sir, any feedback about Sonax Xtreme Paste Wax Full Protect 1? Bought one in Singapore. Is it an LSP? Or Sealant?

Also, I have Collinite 476, Nano Fil, and Nano Sil.

Just had paint protected my car in BB 2 weeks ago. Do I need to clay it before starting my own DIY regimen

Can I use this regimen: Wash > Fil > Sil > Sonax Xtreme > Collinite

Also, curing time between Fil > Sil > Sonax Xtreme > Collinite

Thank you in advance mga sir. Your advices will be much appreciated