"Tamang OC lang" - a newbie's guide to car appearance maintenance

[crosswind]

gaano kalalim? for light scratches, i use Meguiar's ScratchX 2.0. this can also remove paint swirls and etching.

Pang machine lang yan bro??
kasi may mga kalmot ng manok yung hood ng isa kong tsikot
hindi ko na pasok sa garahe nung lolo ko nung binisita ko sila
pero medyo kumonti na with the help of Turtle wax chipstick *feling happy

[crosswind]

gaano kalalim? for light scratches, i use Meguiar's ScratchX 2.0. this can also remove paint swirls and etching.

Pang machine lang yan bro??
kasi may mga kalmot ng manok yung hood ng isa kong tsikot
hindi ko na pasok sa garahe nung lolo ko nung binisita ko sila
pero medyo kumonti na with the help of Turtle wax chipstick *feling happy

[red_one]

*crosswind: ScratchX 2.0 can be applied by hand or machine. gamit ka ng foam applicator pad or micro fiber cloth.

[bigfoot2000]

going to make a word document, ma'am. I could send it to you through email, pa-PM nalang po

Hello! Kindly send ur wonderful guide of car appearance maintenance (waxing etc..) to "rtepacenbi*yahoo.com"
I would greatly appreciate it.

Big Thanks!

[crosswind]

*crosswind: ScratchX 2.0 can be applied by hand or machine. gamit ka ng foam applicator pad or micro fiber cloth.

thanks for the reply red_one
btw how about yung Meguiars paint restorer pwedeng by hand din?
TIA

[red_one]

*crosswind: ito bang Paint Restoration Kit ang ask mo? yes, the products can be applied by hand or machine. if you apply Ultimate Compound by hand, you need to exert more force to work the product. using DA polisher is recommended for optimum result.

[llcooljed]

Question mga paps, sabi sa pinagka-car washan ko, tanggal na daw top coat ko sa hood. What does it mean? Anong pwedeng gawin para maibalik un? Dont want to repaint it since wala pamg repainted panel sa car ko..

[red_one]

Question mga paps, sabi sa pinagka-car washan ko, tanggal na daw top coat ko sa hood. What does it mean? Anong pwedeng gawin para maibalik un? Dont want to repaint it since wala pamg repainted panel sa car ko..

In a two-stage paint system, Top coat = Clear coat. It is colorless and is actually thicker than your base coat. If clear coat is gone, the base coat can be harmed. It will oxidize more quickly and will be prone to fade. Repainting the panel will fix this.



How to test if car still has clear coat? Wipe the panel with polishing compound or scratch remover or cleaner wax. If you find color on the applicator pad, then the base coat is already exposed. The color you're seeing is the pigment transferring from the paint to your applicator pad.

In photo below, the white applicator pad shows red pigments from the car. This means there is no clear coat.

[system32]

you need to let the paint cure fully before you wax/seal. this could be 60 days or more depending on the actual paint used. in the mean time, you can use pure glaze to protect the paint and keep it neat. example is 3M Imperial Hand Glaze.

ah ok sir, di ko lang natanong kung anong paint ginamit sa casa. thanks!

[llcooljed]

In a two-stage paint system, Top coat = Clear coat. It is colorless and is actually thicker than your base coat. If clear coat is gone, the base coat can be harmed. It will oxidize more quickly and will be prone to fade. Repainting the panel will fix this.



How to test if car still has clear coat? Wipe the panel with polishing compound or scratch remover or cleaner wax. If you find color on the applicator pad, then the base coat is already exposed. The color you're seeing is the pigment transferring from the paint to your applicator pad.

In photo below, the white applicator pad shows red pigments from the car. This means there is no clear coat.

Thanks sir monty. Very helpful, nawala lungkot ko.. Hehehe. The moment the detailer told me na wala na daw clearcoat, nasira araw ko eh... There's no paint pigment pa naman everytime i wax my car, so it should be ok.. thanks

[red_one]

Thanks sir monty. Very helpful, nawala lungkot ko.. Hehehe. The moment the detailer told me na wala na daw clearcoat, nasira araw ko eh... There's no paint pigment pa naman everytime i wax my car, so it should be ok.. thanks

confirm ko lang, anong wax ang gamit mo? if carnauba wax or sealant, then hindi pwedeng pang-test yan dahil wala silang abrasive components. cleaner wax or all-in-one, polish, and scratch removers ang options mo.

[llcooljed]

confirm ko lang, anong wax ang gamit mo? if carnauba wax or sealant, then hindi pwedeng pang-test yan dahil wala silang abrasive components. cleaner wax or all-in-one, polish, and scratch removers ang options mo.

Mukang carnauba wax nga lang sir... If ever, pwede ko bang gamitin ang rubbing compound instead of polishing compound pang test?

[red_one]

^yes, you can use rubbing compound for testing. mas aggressive nga lang siya kaysa polish.

[llcooljed]

Ayus na sir red_one, confimed, there's still clearcoat. salamat

[red_one]

^good to hear that.

[crosswind]

* bro red_one
since your active in this thread that states that you know alot about
paints and detailing
May I ask you
what's the difference of faded paint and oxidated paint and
how will I know if it's faded or oxidated?

[red_one]

* bro red_one
since your active in this thread that states that you know alot about
paints and detailing
May I ask you
what's the difference of faded paint and oxidated paint and
how will I know if it's faded or oxidated?

Faded paint looks dull or dim.
Oxidized paint looks dull and cloudy/hazy. Some may also show sign of clear coat failure.

Faded paint and oxidized paint can be fixed by compounding and/or polishing.
Clear coat failure can only be fixed by repainting the panel. The problem is already IN the paint, not only ON the paint surface.


Faded paint. BEFORE and AFTER paint correction:




Oxidized paint. BEFORE and DURING paint correction:





Clear coat failure. Clear coat has turned white and started to flake off:

[crosswind]

Faded paint looks dull or dim.
Oxidized paint looks dull and cloudy/hazy. Some may also show sign of clear coat failure.

Faded paint and oxidized paint can be fixed by compounding and/or polishing.
Clear coat failure can only be fixed by repainting the panel. The problem is already IN the paint, not only ON the paint surface.


Faded paint. BEFORE and AFTER paint correction:




Oxidized paint. BEFORE and DURING paint correction:





Clear coat failure. Clear coat has turned white and started to flake off:

Bro can you I identify if this paint is faded or oxidated

Btw can you see the affected part?

[red_one]

*crosswind: It is hard to see in the photo as i can see the reflection of the car cover on the paint.

Oxidation is more common to single-stage paint system while clear coat failure is more common to two-stage paint system. Generally, oxidation will cover the whole panel while clear coat failure can either affect small areas or the whole panel.

Causes of clear coat failure:

1. Thin clear coat (wet sanded too far)
2. Frequent sun exposure
3. No protection -- wax/sealant (most common reason)
4. Paint has dried out

Here's a car that shows early stage of clear coat failure. The middle area of the hood is becoming cloudy/hazy but not yet flaking or peeling off.

[monty_GTV]

Bro can you I identify if this paint is faded or oxidated

Btw can you see the affected part?

i think its not even a case of fading and oxidation, but i see watermarks that already etched on the paint. compounding and polishing/finishing may remedy the problem. i think kaya yan ng M105/M205 combo. an application of sealant after will protect the paint from further damage.