Tsikot Sport Vehicle Project

[turbo]

Bar,

Ganda ng gawa mo ah. Hirap gawin ng round corners ah.

"Working model". Bow ako.

[ghosthunter]

Honda B16A engine and FWD tranny installed in a custom chassis as a rear engine, RWD config?

I assume you maintained the stock engine mounts on the engine?

[JJCarEnthusiast]

B_S said that the suspension came from the donor SiR, so as the engine. the BAR car is even lighter compared to the SiR. I think this was the main reason why it hit 100kph faster than the SiR. and maybe it would even handle better because of the weight. plus the traction at the rear is plentiful because of the rear engine layout. similar to toyota MR2 SW20 (midship).

at least that's my non-expert point of view.

[JJCarEnthusiast]

is this the soul under the fiberglass shell?

[ghosthunter]

I am not really hitting against the fiberglass sports car but it takes more than fast acceleration figures to make a proper sports car, especially these days. It has to keep a straight line when accelerating and handle well (predictably) in a corner.

As it is, it might just get the driver killed with the admitted tail-happy characteristics.

[foifoi05]

awesome work BAR!

any plans on producing these for the market? I believe maraming bibili/papagawa nito.

[Phoenix67]

.... handling? I might say tail happy... ganun daw talaga ang mga mid-engine (sabi ng iba). Siguro nagkamali ako sa weight distribution, masyadong magaan yung harap. O baka masyado humaba yung wheel base ng gawa ko. Madami pa talagang dapat tingnan.

have you tried adding tail wings? some fairly agrressive tail wings would give you down force in the rear and should probably give some better grip sa rear.

[Phoenix67]

congrats... finally finishing your project car

[Meister001]

any plans on producing these for the market? I believe maraming bibili/papagawa nito.

The car is a rolling death-trap as it is if it goes into production.

But if it gets into production, owners might be given the Darwin Award.

[Bar Stunner]

Konting info lang po, marami rin kasi ako nakausap sa carshow at sa labas, nagdududa sila sa kakayahan ng fiberglass...

LOTUS ELITE 1957 (kapapanganak pa lang sa father ko)

The first Elite or Lotus Type 14 was an ultra-light two-seater coupé, produced from 1958 to 1963 at the Cheshunt, Hertfordshire, UK factory.
Making its debut at the 1957 London Motor Car Show, Earls Court, the 14 spent a year in development, aided by "carefully selected racing customers",[2] before going on sale.
The Elite's most distinctive feature was its highly innovative fiberglass monocoque construction, in which a stressed-skin unibody replaced the previously separate chassis and body components. Unlike the contemporary Chevrolet Corvette, which used fiberglass for only exterior bodywork, the Elite also used this glass-reinforced plastic material for the entire load-bearing structure of the car, though the front of the monocoque incorporated a steel subframe supporting the engine and front suspension, and there was a hoop at the windscreen for mounting door hinges and jacking the car up.[3] The first 250 body units were made by Maximar. The body construction caused numerous early problems, until manufacture was handed over to Bristol Aeroplane Company.[4]
The resultant body was both lighter, stiffer, and provided better driver protection in the event of a crash. The weight savings allowed the Elite to achieve sports car performance from a 75 hp (55 kW) 1216 cc Coventry Climax FWE all-aluminium Straight-4 engine. All Lotus Elites were powered by the FWE engine. Some cars were later fitted with other engines, resulting in a mistaken belief that a variety of engines were installed by Lotus. However, Lotus did fit a Lotus-Ford twin-cam, Elan, engine experimentally to Elite chassis number 1514 in mid 1965 in an attempt to revive flagging interest and make use of some 50 surplus Elite body shells. That car is still running. But the twin-cam Elite did not go into production.
The car had independent suspension all round with transverse wishbones at the front and Chapman struts at the rear. (The latter is essentially the same as a MacPherson strut, though Chapman pioneered the use of this form to suspend driven wheels). The Series 2 cars, with Bristol-built bodies, had triangulated trailing radius arms for improved toe-in control. Girling disc brakes, usually without servo assistance, of 9.5 in (241 mm) diameter were used, inboard at the rear.
Advanced aerodynamics also made a contribution, giving the car a very low drag coefficient of 0.29 — quite low even for modern cars. This accomplishment is all the more remarkable considering the engineers did not enjoy the benefits of computer-aided design and wind tunnel testing. The original Elite drawings were by Peter Kirwan-Taylor. Frank Costin (brother of Mike, one of the co-founders of Cosworth), at that time Chief Aerodynamic Engineer for the de Havilland Aircraft Company, contributed to the final design.
The SE was introduced in 1960 as a higher performance variant, featuring twin SU carburettors and fabricated exhaust manifold resulting in 85 bhp, ZF gearboxes in place of the "cheap and nasty MG" standard ones,[4] Lucas PL700 headlamps, and a silver coloured roof. The Super 95 spec, with more power.[4] from a higher-tuned engine with raised compression and a fiercer camshaft with 5 bearings. A very few Super 100 and Super 105 cars were made with Weber carburettors, for racing use.
Like its siblings, the Elite was run in numerous racing formulae, with particular success at Le Mans and the Nürburgring. Elites won their class six times at the 24 hour Le Mans race as well as two Index of Thermal Efficiency wins. Les Leston and Graham Warner were noted Elite racers in the UK, driving DAD10 and LOV1 respectively. In 1961, David Hobbs began racing an Elite specially fitted with the Hobbs Mechamatic automatic gearbox, and became almost unbeatable - in two years' racing, he won 15 times out of 18 starts. New South Wales driver Leo Geoghegan won the 1960 Australian GT Championship at the wheel of a Lotus Elite. [5].
Among its few faults was a resonant vibration at 4000 rpm (where few drivers remained, on either street or track)[6] and poor quality control, handicapped by overly low price (thus losing money on every copy) and, "[p]erhaps the greatest mistake of all", offering it as a kit, exactly the opposite of the ideal for a quality manufacturer.[4]. Many drivetrain parts were highly stressed and required regreasing at frequent intervals.
When production ended in 1963, 1030 had been built.[7]
A road car tested by The Motor magazine in 1960 had a top speed of 111.8 mph (179.9 km/h) and could accelerate from 0-60 mph (97 km/h) in 11.4 seconds. A fuel consumption of 40.5 miles per imperial gallon (6.97 L/100 km; 33.7 mpg[SIZE=2]-US) was recorded. The test car cost £1966 including taxes. [1][/SIZE]

[ghosthunter]

I am not doubting the capability of fiberglass. More of the actual car's configuration.

Anyway, am I correct that you have not enclosed the bottom of the car?

[Phoenix67]

yung owner jeepney ay rolling death-trap din naman di ba?!?

[foifoi05]

The car is a rolling death-trap as it is if it goes into production.

But if it gets into production, owners might be given the Darwin Award.

same thing with tricycles, owner type jeeps, and PUJ's.

[Phoenix67]

personally i would rather die riding on that beautiful car of BAR rather than riding an owner or tricycle or even PUJ hehehe....

[JJCarEnthusiast]

lol

if this is what under the shell has...


then you should be safer around the somewhat rollcage. and you know it is safe because after the fiberglass is ripped off the cage is going to protect you hehehehe

[Meister001]

personally i would rather die riding on that beautiful car of BAR rather than riding an owner or tricycle or even PUJ hehehe....

Ganun lang pala kamura yung tingin mo sa buhay mo?

Ako naman, mas gusto kong mabuhay na gamit ko Corolla or Lancer or Civic lang.

Di naman ganun kamahal bumili ng 2nd hand na Corona or Galant or Accord.

[donbuggy]

I'd pick Bar Stunner's car over any Japanese or Korean 4-door sedan. Although I would have preferred a design with the proportions of a Lotus Elise and one that does not look like a McLaren, Bar Stunner's car as it is right now is beautiful, a real head turner.

I'd prefer a fully triangulated space frame for better rigidity and less weight. The large section bottom frame of the present chassis looks heavy. Of course I'm not an expert in chassis design so I could be wrong.

[turbo]

Actually the design of Bar is quite safe in-case it rolls over. The Roll cage is strong enough, it might need some X-bracing but as it is, it is enough.

Since the car has a very low center of gravity and has wide track, it might spin rather than roll over.

The only problem in-case it ever roll on its back is how to open the door. All Gullwing doors exhibits this problem.

[Bar Stunner]

Ganun lang pala kamura yung tingin mo sa buhay mo?

Ako naman, mas gusto kong mabuhay na gamit ko Corolla or Lancer or Civic lang.

Di naman ganun kamahal bumili ng 2nd hand na Corona or Galant or Accord.

- Sir, NO OFFENSE po, wala naman pumipilit sayo na bumili ka o magpagawa. Hindi rin ako nag post dito para kumbinsihin ka. Nandito ako para ipakita na kaya ng pinoy gumawa ng kotse from SCRATCH.

Hindi ka ba sumasakay sa tricycle, puj, bus at owner type jeep. Patay ka rin dun kapag nabangga yun. At kahit na may rollcages pa, 6 point harness, abs, airbags... tepok ka rin naman kung reckless driver ka. Kung magpapatakbo ka ng 240KPH sa palagay mo maisasalba ka ng airbags? Natural lang po na may mga mali at mga kulang sa gawa ko, isa na ring dahilan kung bakit ako nagpost dito para sa mga comments niyo. Kung sasabihin mo "Ganun lang pala kamura yung tingin mo sa buhay mo? Ako naman, mas gusto kong mabuhay na gamit ko Corolla or Lancer or Civic lang." e parang sinabi mo na rin walang kahihinatnan itong THREAD na ito. Wala ka kasing gagawin kundi kumontra sa mga projects, WALA KANG TIWALA E.

[Bar Stunner]

Para sa nagsasabi na ginaya ko daw yung gawa ko sa european supercars... eto po yung drawing ko, way back 1991. Hinanap ko sa filing cabinet namin (ipa carbon dating niyo pa kung gusto niyo). Pinagtatawanan ako ng ilan kong classmates nung high school ako sa drawing ko na ito. Paano ko ba daw gagawin... Palagi ako napapagalitan ng teacher dahil hindi ako nakikinig at puro drawing lang ng kotse laman ng notebook ko. Anyways, yung McLaren F1 lumabas ng 1995, Yung drawing at clay model ko 1991 ko pa nagawa. Hindi pa ako marunong gumamit ng T-Square at triangles noon.