HPG starts managing traffic in EDSA effective September 7 2015

[chronicle]

Or, baka sinadya ni mr mmda na ma late para masabi nya na walang nagagawa talaga ang HPG.

[jut703]

Mas pasaway daw ang private cars kaysa PUVs, according to HPG chief. Anong masasabi niyo dito?

PNP-HPG buckles down to work vs. stubborn motorists - DZRH News

Lots of people use those pictures of buses eating into private lanes on EDSA. Eh ngayon wala nang ganun, pero traffic pa rin. Ano na? Ang dali kasi sisihin bus drivers - ganun naman diba, lahat sinisisi bago sarili. Eh etong picture na 'to, nasaan yung bus diyan?



We're all part of the problem. The most common violation I see is the utter disregard of the intersection. I try my best to not block the intersection, but I often find myself not being able to move for several minutes as literally noone will give way to you even if you arrived at the intersection prior to them. I end up getting pissed and have to force myself through the intersection (hence being part of the problem as well).

I'm working on keeping my cool no matter how many dozens of cars refuse to give way, but honestly it's so hopeless. Madalas kong naiisip, "what's the point in doing right when all other motorists are so selfish?". I just try to leave earlier and take into consideration the extra time that it'll cost me to follow road rules.

Traffic will flow much smoother when everyone follows the rules, but when only a minority do so, those few people will end up worse off than everyone else.

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Yung mga bus wala sa picture. Sila ang dahilan kaya hindi umaandar yung mga sasakyan sa lower right part ng picture. ;)

[Altis6453]

Already I'm not liking what the HPG's take on traffic is:

From abs-cbnnews.com (quoting ANC) Sept. 11, 2015

MANILA - Unruly bus drivers may seem to be the common cause of traffic jams along EDSA but the Philippine National Police Highway Patrol Group (HPG) sees things differently.

Speaking to ANC's Headstart, HPG director Chief Superintendent Arnold Gunnacao said that motorists, particularly private car owners, are harder to discipline than bus drivers on EDSA.

"They want to be ahead of others. That is one of the reasons why traffic congestion occurs because they really want to be ahead of others, and there will come a time that there will be a bottleneck because of their habit of doing that," he said.

The HPG chief said 271 traffic violators were apprehended in the past four days, most of which are private vehicles. He added that cars often swerve and change lanes which contribute to road congestion.

The HPG has already taken over the management of traffic along EDSA instead of the Metro Manila Development Authority (MMDA).

Gunnacao, meanwhile, defended the MMDA from criticisms that the agency failed in its duty to manage traffic on EDSA. He pointed out there is a difference between cops and constables.

"If you do not have that semblance of authority, the ordinary citizens will not respect you. And, of course, they (MMDA constables) cannot just arrest people. Unlike we, as policemen, we have the police power, we have the semblance of authority...and the right to arrest," Gunnacao said.

Gunnacao said the traffic situation along EDSA has improved since the deployment and implementation of the new traffic measures, adding that "fear and determination" made the road management more efficient.

My take, the number of apprehensions in 4 days is a pretty small sample size. This is without context regarding when and what time the driver apprehensions took place and for what violations?

[XTO]

sa Balintawak okupado na naman kaninang umaga yung 2 lanes ng mga taong naghihintay ng masasakyan.

wala talagang disiplina ibang pinoy

Syur, sa ganyang kaso palagay ko tao na dapat ang bawasan
Sa totoo lang marami na talagang tao. Nung binaril si Ninoy 52 million lang tayo ngayon 102 million.
30 years from now di lang 50 million madadagdag

[CVT]

Di ba pwede padala nalang sa EDSA lahat ng HPG sa Region 3? Grabe mangotong sa mga delivery trucks pag madaling araw. Sayang naman mga training ng SAF kung maging traffic enforcers lang.

Thanks. But no, thanks, bro.

Dito pa mangotong ang mga mokong na iyan,...



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[jut703]

Yung mga bus wala sa picture. Sila ang dahilan kaya hindi umaandar yung mga sasakyan sa lower right part ng picture. ;)

Seryoso ba yang comment na yan?

Kasi San Miguel Ave. yang picture na yan, at walang kahit isang bus sa daan na yan.

[CVT]

Mas pasaway daw ang private cars kaysa PUVs, according to HPG chief. Anong masasabi niyo dito?

PNP-HPG buckles down to work vs. stubborn motorists - DZRH News

Lots of people use those pictures of buses eating into private lanes on EDSA. Eh ngayon wala nang ganun, pero traffic pa rin. Ano na? Ang dali kasi sisihin bus drivers - ganun naman diba, lahat sinisisi bago sarili. Eh etong picture na 'to, nasaan yung bus diyan?



We're all part of the problem. The most common violation I see is the utter disregard of the intersection. I try my best to not block the intersection, but I often find myself not being able to move for several minutes as literally noone will give way to you even if you arrived at the intersection prior to them. I end up getting pissed and have to force myself through the intersection (hence being part of the problem as well).

I'm working on keeping my cool no matter how many dozens of cars refuse to give way, but honestly it's so hopeless. Madalas kong naiisip, "what's the point in doing right when all other motorists are so selfish?". I just try to leave earlier and take into consideration the extra time that it'll cost me to follow road rules.

Traffic will flow much smoother when everyone follows the rules, but when only a minority do so, those few people will end up worse off than everyone else.

Hopeless na bro ang mga Filipino drivers sa rule na Keep the Intersection Open dito sa atin..... Hindi puwede silang (tayong) iwanang nag-iisa sa kalye na tayo-tayo lang....

Kung ikaw ang magsisimula,- walang susunod, and eventually, you drown in the system.... You will never reach your destination and fellow drivers would take advantage of you while cursing you...

Pero,- pag-drive-in mo ang mga Pinoy sa ibang bansa kung saan ang mali ay mali...

Aba e,- parang tupang sumusunod sa batas... Takot kasing mahuli,- at may pera pang penalty.....

Kaya initially,- as part of the on-the-job training and education ng mga drivers,- kailangang nandiyan ang mga nagpapatupad ng batas na walang tinititigan habang hawak ang hagupit!


"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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[Calistro]

Wala naman kase gusto magbigayan, pag nagbigay ka aabusuhin ka ng hindi nakakaintindi. Dapat talaga mareform yan driver licensure exam kasama ng LTO. Mga tao gusto instant, pineperahan naman ng oportunista

[99moves]

Mas pasaway daw ang private cars kaysa PUVs, according to HPG chief. Anong masasabi niyo dito?

PNP-HPG buckles down to work vs. stubborn motorists - DZRH News

Lots of people use those pictures of buses eating into private lanes on EDSA. Eh ngayon wala nang ganun, pero traffic pa rin. Ano na? Ang dali kasi sisihin bus drivers - ganun naman diba, lahat sinisisi bago sarili. Eh etong picture na 'to, nasaan yung bus diyan?



We're all part of the problem. The most common violation I see is the utter disregard of the intersection. I try my best to not block the intersection, but I often find myself not being able to move for several minutes as literally noone will give way to you even if you arrived at the intersection prior to them. I end up getting pissed and have to force myself through the intersection (hence being part of the problem as well).

I'm working on keeping my cool no matter how many dozens of cars refuse to give way, but honestly it's so hopeless. Madalas kong naiisip, "what's the point in doing right when all other motorists are so selfish?". I just try to leave earlier and take into consideration the extra time that it'll cost me to follow road rules.

Traffic will flow much smoother when everyone follows the rules, but when only a minority do so, those few people will end up worse off than everyone else.

agree 100%. as much as possible i follow the rules. when you are doing the right thing you are supposed to feel good. pero sa kalsada pag ginagawa mo ang tama iinit lang ulo mo dahil sasamantalahin ka ng mga demonyo at mumurahin ka pa. tapos madedelay ka pa sa pupuntahan mo dahil sa mga hinayupak

OT: sir yung sa top-left lanuza ba yun? ginawang one-way?

[newtocar]

^ impose a tougher penalty to violators, higher fees and imprisonment kung ma pwepwede at kung malala ang violation revocation ng DL. Yan ang kailangan sa atin para tumino ang gumagamit ng kalsada.

[jut703]

OT: sir yung sa top-left lanuza ba yun? ginawang one-way?

Sorry not Lanuza. That is San Miguel Ave cor the road behind LSM (forgot the name). Either way, still no buses.

[jut703]

I'd like to see what HPG will do with the private motorists clogging up Ortigas Ave. during LSGH pickup/dropoff hours.

Kung madisiplina nila yung mga inconsiderate na private motorists (mostly drivers, but some parents too), bilib ako. Then perhaps they can deploy more guys to the intersections that clog up often.

Here in Pasig/Ortigas alone I could name dozens of intersections that need officers to reprimand drivers that don't follow the intersection rules. Tama na dapat sa driver manggaling yung kusa through stricter policies on licensing. But as a temporary measure, you can instill discipline by slapping steep fines on erring drivers.

[makyong]

Hopeless na bro ang mga Filipino drivers sa rule na Keep the Intersection Open dito sa atin.....

Kung ikaw ang magsisimula,- walang susunod, and eventually, you drown in the system.... You will never reach your destination and fellow drivers would take advantage of you while cursing you...




"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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I always follow this rule.
Mapag bigay ako sa kalsada. Kaso aabusuhin ka ng mga pinag bibigyan mo. Likewise mumurahin ka ng mga nasa likod mo. Like, bababaan ka ng window at sisigawan ka ng- NERBYOSO!, wala ka sa probinsya G*go! At puro busina abot mo.

[shadow]

Walanghiya talaga Filipino drivers walang pagasa na traffic dito, sana shoot kill pag meron traffic violators

[machine.pistol]

Disiplina lang talaga. Dapat may online database for driver licenses that is accessible by traffic enforcers. Kapag naka 3 violations (probably those that call for big fines), revoke na lisensiya. Panibagong application naman for DL na matino na dapat.

[Altis6453]

I'd like to see what HPG will do with the private motorists clogging up Ortigas Ave. during LSGH pickup/dropoff hours.

Kung madisiplina nila yung mga inconsiderate na private motorists (mostly drivers, but some parents too), bilib ako. Then perhaps they can deploy more guys to the intersections that clog up often.

Here in Pasig/Ortigas alone I could name dozens of intersections that need officers to reprimand drivers that don't follow the intersection rules. Tama na dapat sa driver manggaling yung kusa through stricter policies on licensing. But as a temporary measure, you can instill discipline by slapping steep fines on erring drivers.

That would be great, except the HPG's area of jurisdiction is limited to EDSA (being a national highway) and other national highways.

Dunno how Ortigas Avenue (San Juan area) is presently classified.

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That would be great, except the HPG's area of jurisdiction is limited to EDSA (being a national highway) and other national highways.

Dunno how Ortigas Avenue (San Juan area) is presently classified.

Heard in the news HPG is asking to give them the feeder streets as well..

[KenGarcia]

I always follow this rule.
Mapag bigay ako sa kalsada. Kaso aabusuhin ka ng mga pinag bibigyan mo. Likewise mumurahin ka ng mga nasa likod mo. Like, bababaan ka ng window at sisigawan ka ng- NERBYOSO!, wala ka sa probinsya G*go! At puro busina abot mo.

Sa sobrang dali kumuha at mag renew ng license. Pag napapadaan ako sa LTO office dito samin na puro fixer ang nakabaang sa mismong gate mapapailing ka nalang.

[Monseratto]

Malas na lang pag nasiraan ka sa EDSA...

HPG: Drivers whose cars will conk out on EDSA to get traffic tickets
September 13, 2015 3:49pm


Car owners will be issued with traffic violation tickets and have their driver's licenses confiscated if their vehicles will conk out on EDSA.

"Nasa batas po iyan, responsibilidad po natin na ating siguraduhin na roadworthy ang ating mga sasakyan, mapapribrado o mapapampubliko... Siguraduhin po natin na iyan ay properly maintained... Kapag kayo po ay nasiraan sa EDSA o saan man, kayo po ay [iisyuhan ng] ticket," HPG spokesperson Superintendent Oliver Tanseco told radio dzBB in an interview on Sunday.

The HPG had said that aside from the volume of vehicles, those that conk out and figure in accidents also contribute to the traffic problem on EDSA.

Tanseco said that starting this Monday, the HPG will be "superhigpit" and issue traffic violation tickets from the Land Transportation Office (LTO).

He explained that when a driver is issued with an LTO traffic violation ticket, his driver's license will be confiscated. The license can only be redeemed at LTO office.

The HPG men deployed on EDSA last week used traffic violation tickets from the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA).

The HPG had said that those apprehended from September 7 to 11 for violating traffic rules on EDSA were only given warnings or issued with MMDA traffic tickets.

Tanseco said that 65 HPG personnel have already been deputized by the LTO and 60 more underwent a seminar and took exams on Sunday.

- See more at: HPG: Drivers whose cars will conk out on EDSA to get traffic tickets | News | GMA News Online