HPG starts managing traffic in EDSA effective September 7 2015

**shadow** · September 9th, 2015 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by boybi

Di ba pwede padala nalang sa EDSA lahat ng HPG sa Region 3? Grabe mangotong sa mga delivery trucks pag madaling araw. Sayang naman mga training ng SAF kung maging traffic enforcers lang.

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Di ba pwede padala nalang sa EDSA lahat ng HPG sa Region 3? Grabe mangotong sa mga delivery trucks pag madaling araw. Sayang naman mga training ng SAF kung maging traffic enforcers lang.

Sabihin mo sa kababayan mo [emoji16]

**dr. d** · September 9th, 2015 07:48 PM

we can do something about the flooding in MM. lookit holland!

we may not be able to do something fast to rehabilitate the lrt and mrt, but we we can imprison right away, those responsible for the lrt and mrt degenerations. "economic sabotage.. plunder.."

**jonski** · September 9th, 2015 08:18 PM

Sinasabotage daw ni Tolentino traffic sa EDSA para hindi maging succesfull HPG.

**NightRock** · September 9th, 2015 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by jonski

Sinasabotage daw ni Tolentino traffic sa EDSA para hindi maging succesfull HPG.

sa TV Patrol lagi tinitira si Tolentino hahahaha EPAL daw

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Originally Posted by jonski

Sinasabotage daw ni Tolentino traffic sa EDSA para hindi maging succesfull HPG.

sa TV Patrol lagi tinitira si Tolentino hahahaha EPAL daw

**jut703** · September 9th, 2015 11:33 PM

Was surprised with how light EDSA Northbound was tonight. Bit of a slowdown from Shaw to Ortigas but only because there was a stalled A31 on the flyover. But afterwards, pretty smooth. My usual 50 minute trip took just 35 minutes.

Grabe pa rin ang private motorists on the yellow lane though.

**jut703** · September 10th, 2015 01:11 AM

I was thinking about it while driving home, and technically, it's less of a sin for a private car to occupy the yellow lane than it is for a bus to occupy the private cars' lanes.

This is because buses are in no hurry to get to their destination, since their point is to stay on the road as long as possible, to pick up as many passengers as possible. Which is why there are huge stretches of yellow lane that are empty.

For example, after loading at Ortigas Ilalim, buses will stop at Corinthians to pick up the unending supply of construction workers at its front gate. But from Corinthians to Santolan (the next proper bus stop), they would erratically stop at the White Plains intersection, at the AFP gate, and finally at the Santolan bus stop.

During the time that they're dilly-dallying on these pseudo-stops, private cars could use the yellow lane without impeding the pace of the buses.

However, there's the question of when should the private motorist's use of the yellow lane stop? I personally think you should stay out of the yellow lane when approaching a proper bus stop (Megamall, Guadalupe, Santolan, etc).

Basically the logic is that if you won't be impeding any buses, then it should be okay to use the yellow lane to declog the inner 3 lanes.

Unfortunately, not everyone will know when they're already a nuisance to the buses, while there will be others who don't care if the buses are blocked.

"Eh ginagawa din nila sa private yang panghaharang eh" (as if 2 wrongs make a right)

"Eh nagmamadali ako eh" (as if their time is more important than everyone else's),

"Eh ang haba ng pila sa private eh" (as if they're so special they don't need to line up)

I've been avoiding the yellow lane to abide by the rules as much as possible, but I can't help but notice how underutilized it is (except for bus stops).

**dr. d** · September 10th, 2015 02:02 AM

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you create exceptions to the rule, and pretty soon, everyone thinks he is an exception.
no... in my opinion, we should keep the yellow land exclusive.
(typo intentional)

but i do have one question...
where does the private vehicle stop so that passengers can get in or get out..?
i asked several mmdas, and i was not able to elicit a consistent answer..
they were so hooked on the bus.. they forgot the citizen..

**jut703** · September 10th, 2015 02:34 AM

I've dropped many people off on different bus stops in EDSA, never got flagged down. I think even enforcers know that you've got to allow car passengers to be dropped off somewhere.

**sientobente** · September 10th, 2015 03:09 AM

I traverse EDSA from Southbound to Northbound during mornings on a daily basis. Di hamak na maluwag ang kalye. Even if I will be coming from MOA pa. Malaking kabawasan nung mawala ang mga nagsweswerve na bus ng 3 lanes sa Edsa. Di ko na rin nakikita masyado ang mga Jeep na nakatambay sa harapan ng guadalupe. Good improvement for me so far by the HPG. So for Tolentino - you suck!

**StockEngine** · September 10th, 2015 03:20 AM

I use PL(private lane) and YL SB before the flyover(Ortigas?) near Autocentrum/white plains area. Hatid-duty in the morning requires you to avoid the people on the 4 outer lanes. Hows the HPG in this area?

I also use PL and YL SB after the Guadalupe mrt stop. going up the bridge requires maximum acceleration. if the flow is right buses won't hit you. Marami naka post dito na HPG?

also PL and YL SB before crossing i think this is allowed. not sure if they're apprehending here na.

I think these areas pwede naman. Im always mindful of every vehicle around me.

normally i drive non-rush hour times. and its quite convenient and no harm done to other motorists.

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I use PL(private lane) and YL SB before the flyover(Ortigas?) near Autocentrum/white plains area. Hatid-duty in the morning requires you to avoid the people on the 4 outer lanes. Hows the HPG in this area?

I also use PL and YL SB after the Guadalupe mrt stop. going up the bridge requires maximum acceleration. if the flow is right buses won't hit you. Marami naka post dito na HPG?

also PL and YL and SB before crossing i think this is allowed. not sure if they're apprehending here na.

I think these areas pwede naman. Im always mindful of every vehicle around me.

normally i drive non-rush hour times. and its quite convenient and no harm done to other motorists.

**kimbon** · September 10th, 2015 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

HPG pa ba problema diyan? From all the pictures I've seen, hindi naman discipline yung kulang. Masyado lang maraming kotseng nasa EDSA dahil yung alternate routes ay binabaha, and mabagal ang usad ng kotse dahil umuulan.

Gusto kasi natin sisihin nalang lahat sa gobyerno. But to be honest we're all part of the problem because there are just too many cars in the Metro.

It will take time to finish road infra projects, and it will take time before MM is decentralized. You can choose to complain all day every day and bring unnecessary stress to yourself, or just accept that there's nothing you can do right now to alleviate the metro traffic problem. You can also decide to act and move out of manila and live in the province and trade lower incomes for greater convenience, or move abroad. But if you want to stay in Manila, then take it in its entirety including its traffic.

If you want the situation to change, May 2016 gives you an opportunity to do so. Vote intelligently, and inspire those around you to do the same.

bro jut partly agree here except the above-mentioned in bold fonts

usually sa pangkaraniwang na pamilyadong employee, di na sila risk taker sa career to move out of MM lalo na kung may mga anak pang nag-aaral at isa lang sa kanila ang kumikita. sa bawat decision, una palagi ang kapakanan ng family bago ang pansarili. hanggang kaya pang tiisin, di makikipagsapalaran sa ibang lugar maliban kung talagang no choice. Hindi gaya nating mga binata pa, di gaano malaking ang responsibility sa buhay, kung minsan nga sarili lang natin ang ini-intindi, mas bata at idealistic pa, mas madaling makahanap ng trabaho sa ibang lugar etc.....

**dr. d** · September 10th, 2015 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

I've dropped many people off on different bus stops in EDSA, never got flagged down. I think even enforcers know that you've got to allow car passengers to be dropped off somewhere.

..problem is, once you drive into these bus stops, you're caught in their queue..

**jut703** · September 10th, 2015 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by StockEngine

I use PL(private lane) and YL SB before the flyover(Ortigas?) near Autocentrum/white plains area. Hatid-duty in the morning requires you to avoid the people on the 4 outer lanes. Hows the HPG in this area?

I also use PL and YL SB after the Guadalupe mrt stop. going up the bridge requires maximum acceleration. if the flow is right buses won't hit you. Marami naka post dito na HPG?

also PL and YL SB before crossing i think this is allowed. not sure if they're apprehending here na.

I think these areas pwede naman. Im always mindful of every vehicle around me.

normally i drive non-rush hour times. and its quite convenient and no harm done to other motorists.

Agree with your observations on those areas. I think the easiest way to maximize the YL is to have some parts strictly for buses only, and some parts available for mixed use. Buses will have to stay exclusively on the yellow lane, but private cars can also use it on its open stretches. This can be indicated by using yellow and white paint for the areas where they can pass, plus a diagonal line showing where they should merge back into the inner lanes as a bus stop is approaching.

To us it may be common sense, but others will need to have it in black and white to avoid abuse, both by undisciplined drivers and corrupt enforcers.

Originally Posted by kimbon

bro jut partly agree here except the above-mentioned in bold fonts

usually sa pangkaraniwang na pamilyadong employee, di na sila risk taker sa career to move out of MM lalo na kung may mga anak pang nag-aaral at isa lang sa kanila ang kumikita. sa bawat decision, una palagi ang kapakanan ng family bago ang pansarili. hanggang kaya pang tiisin, di makikipagsapalaran sa ibang lugar maliban kung talagang no choice. Hindi gaya nating mga binata pa, di gaano malaking ang responsibility sa buhay, kung minsan nga sarili lang natin ang ini-intindi, mas bata at idealistic pa, mas madaling makahanap ng trabaho sa ibang lugar etc.....

True bro, kaya nga for those people with no option to move out, eh kailangan matuto magadjust. I have no plans of leaving Manila so I've just adjusted my expectations about traffic and I try my best to be as disciplined on the road to avoid causing more traffic.

Originally Posted by dr. d

..problem is, once you drive into these bus stops, you're caught in their queue..

I'd rather queue up with the buses than cause inconvenience to other motorists by creating a stop where there isn't one.

Usually though, what I do is to find the nearest gasoline station or other establishment with proper ingress/egress and drop off my hitchhiker there.

**dr. d** · September 10th, 2015 11:00 AM

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I'd rather queue up with the buses than cause inconvenience to other motorists by creating a stop where there isn't one.

Usually though, what I do is to find the nearest gasoline station or other establishment with proper ingress/egress and drop off my hitchhiker there.

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many years ago, private vehicles can pull over anywhere, to load and unload passengers.
it was only the buses and jeepneys, who were required to load and unload only in designated areas.
to my knowlege, there has not been any formal directive changing this..
a gloop from our administrators, perhaps?

**macsd** · September 10th, 2015 11:27 AM

MMDA chief Tolentino gets stuck in traffic, misses TV appearance | Inquirer News

At 8:55 a.m., Tolentino informed the host that he would be in the studio “in five minutes” or at 9 a.m., when Headstart was scheduled to end.

The good for nothing got to taste his own ineptness. :rofl:

**dr. d** · September 10th, 2015 11:30 AM