Toyota Innova Owners & Discussions [ARCHIVED]

[timo07]

I'm open to more technical explanation also, as it seems to be working well on 2 stroke engines though.

Mile2, 2T oils are specifically used for Two Stroke Engines, like the motorcycle engines here in the Philippines. They don't have any lube oil sump where the crankshaft, piston rods and rings, liners and other engine parts get their lubrication.

[gil_co]

[quote=timo07;1306613]The logic is already in your first posting, for them fortuner owners, that is to lubricate the fuel delivery system. The question is, Is it required for our engines? For me the answer is no. 2T oils are formulated for those twostroke engines that doesn't have any lube oil sumps. They are designed to be mixed with fuels and lubricate the combustion system as they get inside during the combustion process. As for lubricating the fuel delivery system, our diesels and gasolines should already do that as they have some form of lubricating properties as they pass through the fuel system.

Sir Timo07,

Sorry, shouldn't have used the term "logic", maybe "technical explanation" ... in which you have clearly explained, very glad to have this discussion with you guys first before experimenting, I might end up asking for help re. black smoke

The real concern is really the reliability of Toyota's fuel delivery system. Please note that this Common Rail Technology uses a very high pressure system as compared to previous technology. It's not a question of how to lubricate it, but rather, was it designed properly?

That will be a pretty long discussion heheh

Now, if those 2T practice brings forth positive benefits and no negatives, then by all means I will do it myself. But then we need hard evidence and even an endorsement from our car's manufacturer, before we can subscribe to such practice.

Agree with you, but I'm sure the TMP will stick to no need for additives, but the casa's will still sell you injector cleaners

Btw, 2T was brought up coz some fort forumers use fuel additives (booster/cleaner) w/c are expensive, and 2T was brought up coz it cost 30.00. Hmmm... K&N filter na lang kaya???? + alcohol water spray :evillaugh:evillaugh

[timo07]

[quote=gil_co;1306639]

Agree with you, but I'm sure the TMP will stick to no need for additives, but the casa's will still sell you injector cleaners

Btw, 2T was brought up coz some fort forumers use fuel additives (booster/cleaner) w/c are expensive, and 2T was brought up coz it cost 30.00. Hmmm... K&N filter na lang kaya???? + alcohol water spray :evillaugh:evillaugh

Oo nga eh. Sometimes those service reps contradict what the manufacturer say (through the manuals) in suggesting the use of those additives/cleaners. Don't know about those alcohol water spray but a clean and efficient air filter is sure to bring out the best our engine can offer.

[gil_co]

If that's not so good for a small scooter with a 90cc carburetted engine, it's definitely non-recommendable for a hyper-sensitive common-rail injection system like Toyota's D4D. I'd rather top it up with proper fuel additives than 2T.[/quote]

Sir Roberto_Minosa,

You have a very good point.... many thanks for sharing, things we put into our fuel and engine are not like putting tints or changing seat covers

Gil

[roberto_minosa]

^Tumpak! And yes, SAs make you want to buy stuff such as additives and services such as engine flushing when ToMoCo doesn't. Then they'd bill us when something breaks down...Ironic, huh?

BTW, in the '90s we used PerTua and PET on lolo's old '82 Lancer and dad's '83 Laser/323 with no bad effects. It made the engine run smoother. Lately, we tried out Oberon's own oil additive on dad's Altis 1.6 with the same effects as PerTua.

[jtbjr]

good day...

mag papalit po ako ng gulong ng innova namin...2 sa rear...may nagbibigay sakin ng gulong ng revo, bago pa kasi...maedyo makitid lang ang gulong ng revo compared to innova...ok lang po ba ito gamitin??wala kaya maging problem sa handling, stability etc??
thanks! appreciate your replies

[marlocaps]

2 lang ang papalitan mo? baka magka problema ka sa stability and hindi maging accurate ang FC reading mo.

Ma-void din warranty ng under chasis mo if ever may alignment problem ka..that is ung nasa warranty pa Innova mo.

[supercar10]

heads up guys! newer innova's coming soon. i was told by my SA along with the news that release of our innova is due on wednesday. i thought the current model was the updated version already, that means double facelift?! lol

i asked what the changes are, he wasn't sure though he said G nad V variant remains completely the same. just that the J variant gets airbags.

[roberto_minosa]

good day...

mag papalit po ako ng gulong ng innova namin...2 sa rear...may nagbibigay sakin ng gulong ng revo, bago pa kasi...maedyo makitid lang ang gulong ng revo compared to innova...ok lang po ba ito gamitin??wala kaya maging problem sa handling, stability etc??
thanks! appreciate your replies

Since they're still fresh, why not keep the tires and trade 'em in for Innova-spec tires? The thing is, you'll eventually end up with an odd tire rotation setup. And in my opinion, it's best to install tires with either the same width as stock-spec, or wider tires.

[BOKERS]

I agree with Boss Mile 2, have been using synthetic oil ever since. If ever , invest in a Drop in K&N filter, better set of wheels instead of burloloys, lalo na pag nag tangallan na yung adhesives at lumuluwag na mga screws...

Gil

Thanks Mile2 and gil_co.

Will use fully synthetic in my next PMS.

[Torvic]

heads up guys! newer innova's coming soon. i was told by my SA along with the news that release of our innova is due on wednesday. i thought the current model was the updated version already, that means double facelift?! lol

i asked what the changes are, he wasn't sure though he said G nad V variant remains completely the same. just that the J variant gets airbags.

Gud morning Sir!

ask ko lang kung anong variant ang kukunin mo and nagkaroon ba ng price increase?

[Errol5]

The rear door of my Innova is squeeking, im sot sure though if it is the hydraulic or the hinge. Can it be solved if I spray wd40 on it?

[liv]

What I hate is when after washing the car and drying it up, the side mirrors just cant seem to be out of water. Hate the water marks on my doors...

that is the reason why i was tempted to buy a Black & Decker blower... not only does the side mirrors seem to be clogged with water but even the side mouldings too... water marks... really a pain in the a$$ to remove.

[liv]

The rear door of my Innova is squeeking, im sot sure though if it is the hydraulic or the hinge. Can it be solved if I spray wd40 on it?

go spray the hinges with wd40... no harm in trying.

[Mile2]

The rear door of my Innova is squeeking, im sot sure though if it is the hydraulic or the hinge. Can it be solved if I spray wd40 on it?

Don't use WD40 on the hydraulic stay/lift, it will eventually degrade the seals and eventually will make your stay/lift inoperable. Use regular grease instead.

Also have it checked on your next PMS, might be one of your stay/lift is already inoperable. It happens to me that one day my rear door does not move up and stay, good thing my ride was still under warranty and TMBC replaced them both at the same time.

[liv]

You have a very good point.... many thanks for sharing, things we put into our fuel and engine are not like putting tints or changing seat covers

Gil

well said! IMO, not worth risking our hard earned money.

[Errol5]

Don't use WD40 on the hydraulic stay/lift, it will eventually degrade the seals and eventually will make your stay/lift inoperable. Use regular grease instead.

Also have it checked on your next PMS, might be one of your stay/lift is already inoperable. It happens to me that one day my rear door does not move up and stay, good thing my ride was still under warranty and TMBC replaced them both at the same time.

Im over my warranty period. If ever I need to replace those lifts, do you know how much it would cost me? Thanks

[Mile2]

Im over my warranty period. If ever I need to replace those lifts, do you know how much it would cost me? Thanks

No idea on the price, might as well ask any dealer. You can actually call any parts and accessories department of any dealer or email them by their websites.

To test your door stay/lift, try to test it one at a time by removing each sides and open the door way up. If it can not make the door stay up then it is already due for replacement.

[GLD]

Mine was replaced last month, 2.5 years na innova ko.

According to my SA (Toyota Makati), warranty is 3 years.

Im over my warranty period. If ever I need to replace those lifts, do you know how much it would cost me? Thanks

[supercar10]

Gud morning Sir!

ask ko lang kung anong variant ang kukunin mo and nagkaroon ba ng price increase?

We're gettin the G diesel variant. price increase is due when the newer model comes out.