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October 27th, 2006 12:44 PM #1211Thanks, you are right a public forum should present all sides and refrain from bashing other posters with different opinions. This is the only way to enrich and improve the quality of this thread's discussion, by a logical discussion of the issues, free from sarcasm,biases and flippant remarks!
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October 27th, 2006 12:49 PM #1212
But you just said...
Originally Posted by agreyes7110
I wouldn't even call that statement free from sarcasm to those affected by the D4D problem and/or bias for your car's manufacturer.
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October 27th, 2006 12:58 PM #1214
hehehe..... nagiging active talaga mga thread kapag me lumalabas na mga fanboys.
Kudos to "most" tsikot members for being so level headed. One thing I can say is
they say it like it is regardless of the brand. Unbiased ang mga reviews.
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October 27th, 2006 02:32 PM #1216
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October 27th, 2006 05:01 PM #1217
Bwahahahaha!!!!
My back still aches from the Fortuner test drive... don't get me wrong, I'd give my left lung for the 3.0 D4D engine, but seriously, that suspension could cause a miscarriage!
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RE: Buy a car because there are lots of them on the road?
Last time I was at Baguio country club, I saw 40 Sentras in the parking lot. Taxis, service cars, private vehicles, tons of Exaltas, some older Sentras...
I saw maybe two Corollas... and a Pajero, I think.
Based on this, I think we should all be driving Sentras... but of course, I don't bear any love for the crap Yulon dumps on us (ex-Sentra owner, still a Nissan fanboy, but disappointed with Nissan Philippines).
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I, too, think the "D4D issue" should be taken with a grain of salt, as I know quite a few D4D owners with no problems, but that doesn't mean the issue does not exist. People are suffering from it, and Toyota knows there's an issue (there's documentation proving this already!)...
So, is it black propaganda? I think not. Tsikot is a community of owners, and we post our problems out of concern for other owners. I'm a Ford owner, and when I give advice about Ford cars, I do relay my bad experiences and those of other Ford owners to a potential buyer.
We have Optra owners, some of whom will tell you very matter of factly what's wrong with their cars.
We have Honda owners who can't quit complaining about Honda's interior quality nowadays (and it's all true...).
So... should we show our bias and not talk about Toyota's shortcomings, hmmm???
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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October 27th, 2006 05:46 PM #1218
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October 27th, 2006 06:00 PM #1219
Oh, from the front, the Fortuner is actually very good. It was very nice to drive, actually.
But being a very conscientious test-driver, I did something 99.99% of testers never do...
I rode in the third row for two hours. It wasn't a good experience.
It's not barf-bag bad, like many old leaf-spring vehicles, but it's pretty bad for a coil-spring equipped ride. If only the rear end was tuned as well as the front......by the way, the miscarriage comment wasn't mine, originally... but I think it was aimed at the Everest.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
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October 27th, 2006 06:15 PM #1220
+1 on the Amaron. Yeah, just make sure it will fit and can be held in place securely due to...
Cheaper brands than Motolite but reliable as well