Toyota Avanza Owners & Discussions [ARCHIVED]

[woohoo]

Sa mga nag-reply sa inquiry ko. maraming maraming salamat sa inyo, lalo na sa iyo, Sir woohoo sa pag attach mo ng comment ni sir theeved.
sus, talagang binugbog ng husto ni frank ang iloilo. first time na nangyari iyan.
Btw, sir woohoo, regarding doon sa diehard battery, achu-chu mo, mga magkano ba ito?

Php200 po nung nabili ko. Di ko pa nabalikan yung tindahan.

[AvAnzA_84]

Sa Avanza G A/T ko:


During our trip to Subic last May 30, I managed to capture some stills. Educated estimates lang ito, analog kasi ang speedometer natin:

114kph - 3575rpm
119kph - 3740rpm
121kph - 3800rpm
128kph - 4000rpm
132kph - 4125rpm
145kph - 4500rpm
I think 2000rpm will get you around 65kph.

I have observed no abnormal vibrations at all. Even at 130kph with only 3 adults on board (average weight 155lbs).

SIr woohoo, qwerty, jppt20 and to avanza G with MT owners:

Napansin parang mas mataas ang RPM ko re posted replies ninyo. Approximately averaging 300-500 RPM more.

At speed of 155kph, wala naman akong nararamdaman na vibration or unusual movement ng steering wheel. I strongly believe that the avanza is very very stable. papaano ba mag post ng video dito? Last time photobucket ginamit ko para sa mga still images.

Sa mga naka MT G model, DO we have the same reading? or parehas lang sa posts nila Sirs Woohoo and Qwerty? Btw, with that RPM my ave consumption is still 11+km/liter.

[jppt20]

SIr woohoo, qwerty, jppt20 and to avanza G with MT owners:

Napansin parang mas mataas ang RPM ko re posted replies ninyo. Approximately averaging 300-500 RPM more.

At speed of 155kph, wala naman akong nararamdaman na vibration or unusual movement ng steering wheel. I strongly believe that the avanza is very very stable. papaano ba mag post ng video dito? Last time photobucket ginamit ko para sa mga still images.

Sa mga naka MT G model, DO we have the same reading? or parehas lang sa posts nila Sirs Woohoo and Qwerty? Btw, with that RPM my ave consumption is still 11+km/liter.

Ask ko lang din po.. ang AT po ba ng Avanza may overdrive? factor po kaya yun ng lower rpm compared sa G na MT?... Any inuts po kaya from J models Thanks!

[jppt20]

SIr woohoo, qwerty, jppt20 and to avanza G with MT owners:

Napansin parang mas mataas ang RPM ko re posted replies ninyo. Approximately averaging 300-500 RPM more.

At speed of 155kph, wala naman akong nararamdaman na vibration or unusual movement ng steering wheel. I strongly believe that the avanza is very very stable. papaano ba mag post ng video dito? Last time photobucket ginamit ko para sa mga still images.

Sa mga naka MT G model, DO we have the same reading? or parehas lang sa posts nila Sirs Woohoo and Qwerty? Btw, with that RPM my ave consumption is still 11+km/liter.

Ask ko lang din po.. ang AT po ba ng Avanza may overdrive? factor po kaya yun ng lower rpm compared sa G na MT?... Any inuts po kaya from J models re: RPM vs KPH Thanks!

[_Qwerty_]

yup may overdrive po ang A/T.

[meledson]

for me, misleading ang term na overdrive. basically kasi ang overdrive is an additional gear para tipid sa gas. not para bumilios ang car.

*qwerty, may switch ba to disable the overdrive? TIA.

[puroy]

mga ka APC...Friday na naman and paalala lang, magtataas na naman ng 1.50 ang mga gasolina bukas ng 12:01am saturday. magpa-gas na kayo ngayon para makatipid kahit paano. SIGH

[ownertype]

mga ka APC...Friday na naman and paalala lang, magtataas na naman ng 1.50 ang mga gasolina bukas ng 12:01am saturday. magpa-gas na kayo ngayon para makatipid kahit paano. SIGH

tnx, wala na katapusan to. ayusin ko na yung bike ko this weekend. mag bike na lang ako.

[woohoo]

Sa mga naka MT G model, DO we have the same reading? or parehas lang sa posts nila Sirs Woohoo and Qwerty? Btw, with that RPM my ave consumption is still 11+km/liter.

AFAIK, mas maliit ang gear ratio ng A/T kesa sa M/T, sir, hence the lower RPM on the top gear.

For the life of me, I can't seem to recall now where I saw that gear ratio table.

Naka-chat ko pa si Pres Meledson around that time...

HTH...

[meledson]

Di ko na alam kung saan ko nakuha ito.

Gears
1st ................... 3.769 ................. 2.713
2nd ................... 2.045 ................. 1.526
3rd ................... 1.376 ................. 1.000
4th ................... 1.000 ................. 0.699
5th ................... 0.838 ................. -
Reverse ............. 4.128 ................. 2.290
Final Gear Ratio ... 5.125 ... 4.875 ... 5.125

[woohoo]

AFAIK, mas maliit ang gear ratio ng A/T kesa sa M/T, sir, hence the lower RPM on the top gear.

For the life of me, I can't seem to recall now where I saw that gear ratio table.

Naka-chat ko pa si Pres Meledson around that time...

HTH...

Heto pala:

Transmission

5 Speed Manual

4 Speed Automatic

Gear Ratio

1st

3.769

2.731

2nd

2.045

1.526

3rd

1.376

1

4th

1

0.696

5th

0.838

-

Reverse

4.128

2.29

Final Gear Ratio

5.125

4.875

5.125

Nasa cache ng google, baka mawala na one of these days, kahit nga yung actual page, di ko na makita.

Ang tanong: "what is FINAL GEAR RATIO?"

[AvAnzA_84]

Ask ko lang din po.. ang AT po ba ng Avanza may overdrive? factor po kaya yun ng lower rpm compared sa G na MT?... Any inuts po kaya from J models Thanks!

jppt20:

What I know is May overdrive ang A/T. Btw, sir G Manual ang akin.

SIr meledson and woohoo posted about the gear ratio.

Meaning the bigger the ratio, the higher the RPM. Ibig sabihin mas matakaw sa GAS ang Manual kaysa Automatic? Hmm. Everybody says mas matakaw sa gas ang Automatic vs Manual (Same engine). SIrs/Gurus, naguguluhan po ako? Please enlighten us?

[_Qwerty_]

*Pres - yup may OD switch.. nasa kambyo.. so kung matarik pataas.. pwede mag 2 tapos off ang OD.

[meledson]

jppt20:

What I know is May overdrive ang A/T. Btw, sir G Manual ang akin.

SIr meledson and woohoo posted about the gear ratio.

Meaning the bigger the ratio, the higher the RPM. Ibig sabihin mas matakaw sa GAS ang Manual kaysa Automatic? Hmm. Everybody says mas matakaw sa gas ang Automatic vs Manual (Same engine). SIrs/Gurus, naguguluhan po ako? Please enlighten us?

The smaller the number sa gear ratio, the faster the wheel turns at a particular RPM.

Ang 4'th gear ng 'matic ay smaller kaysa sa 5th gear ng manual. So sa rekta at the same speed, mas mababa ang RPM ng A/T kaysa sa M/T. resulting sa better FC if the same engine displacement. Kaso mas malaki ang displacement ng Avanza G than sa J. Di talaga simple.

Unfortunately, mas malaki ang energy lost sa Automatic transmission kaysa sa Manual Transmission. So kung same engine let us say 1.5G M/T vs 1.5G A/T. mas malakas ang M/T sa wheel hp kahit na same lang ang engine power.

[woohoo]

jppt20:

What I know is May overdrive ang A/T. Btw, sir G Manual ang akin.

SIr meledson and woohoo posted about the gear ratio.

Meaning the bigger the ratio, the higher the RPM. Ibig sabihin mas matakaw sa GAS ang Manual kaysa Automatic? Hmm. Everybody says mas matakaw sa gas ang Automatic vs Manual (Same engine). SIrs/Gurus, naguguluhan po ako? Please enlighten us?

some factors I can think of:

1. Heavier transmission of the A/T.
2. One can shift at lower RPMs on the M/T. Sa A/T, usually kailangan i-adjust, which is something the common "tao" doesn't do.

Pero para mas authoritative (hehehe):

galing po ito sa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission :

Advantages

• Manual transmissions typically offer better fuel economy compared to automatics.[2] Increased fuel economy with a properly operated manual transmission vehicle versus an equivalent automatic transmission vehicle can range from 5% to about 15% depending on driving conditions and style of driving -- extra urban or urban (highway or city). There are several reasons for this:
  
  • Mechanical efficiency. The manual transmission couples the engine to the transmission with a rigid clutch instead of a torque converter that introduces significant power losses. The automatic transmission also suffers parasitic losses by driving the high pressure hydraulic pumps required for its operation.
  • Fuel cut-off. The torque converter of the automatic transmission is designed for transmitting power from the engine to the wheels. Its ability to transmit power in the reverse direction is limited. During deceleration, if the torque converter's rotation drops beneath its stall speed, the momentum of the car can no longer turn the engine, requiring the engine to be idled. By contrast, a manual transmission, with the clutch engaged, can use the car's momentum to keep the engine turning, in principle, all the way down to zero RPM. This means that there are better opportunities, in a manual car, for the electronic control unit (ECU) to impose deceleration fuel cut-off (DFCO), a fuel-saving mode whereby the fuel injectors are turned off if the throttle is closed (foot off the accelerator pedal) and the engine is being driven by the momentum of the vehicle.
  • Geartrain efficiency. Automatics may require power to be transmitted through multiple planetary gearsets before attaining the desired gear ratio.
  
  
• Manual transmissions are still more efficient than belt-driven continuously-variable transmissions.[3][4]
• Manual transmissions are generally significantly lighter than torque-converter automatics.[2]
• Vehicles with manual transmissions are typically less expensive than those with automatic transmissions

HTH...

[meledson]

Heto pala:

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Ang tanong: "what is FINAL GEAR RATIO?"

Final Gear Ratio - ito yata ang gear ratio sa differential.

Speaking of differential. Hindi LSD ang Avanza

[AvAnzA_84]

some factors I can think of:

1. Heavier transmission of the A/T.
2. One can shift at lower RPMs on the M/T. Sa A/T, usually kailangan i-adjust, which is something the common "tao" doesn't do.

Pero para mas authoritative (hehehe):

galing po ito sa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manual_transmission :


HTH...

SIr, woohoo, thanks

So tama pala, mas fuel efficient ang M/T vs A/T (Same engine of course)

[woohoo]

Final Gear Ratio - ito yata ang gear ratio sa differential.

Speaking of differential. Hindi LSD ang Avanza

FINAL GEAR RATIO pala is the number of turns the engine has to make for the wheel to make 1 full turn.

[woohoo]

Final Gear Ratio - ito yata ang gear ratio sa differential.

Speaking of differential. Hindi LSD ang Avanza

Ano ba iyan, double post na naman, di bale, iba na lang ang ilalagay ko dito, additional info na lang:

Dun sa link na nakita ko, sabi, FGR = Primary Reduction Ratio * Secondary Reduction Ratio * Gear Ratio * Final Reduction Ratio.

All the more confusing, no? hehehe.

[rv_flores]

Hello po.......

Bro, kung mahigit na one year na avanza mo, malamang battery na yan. I had the same problem last week. akala ko grounded lang sa body. Kasi every morning ayaw na mag start(Tulak lagi), ginawa ko tinanggal ko yung cable sa battery para sure na maraming karga.. the next morning, ayaw na naman... Sabi sa battery shop, mahina na yung battery.. at exactly 14 months. Sabi ng toyota, 12 months lang ang warranty or 20K sa odometer which ever comes first. Sa nagpalit na ko ng baterya to 1SM, swak pa rin dun sa holder, also have to replace the terminal. Cost me P2,100 swapped na rin yung old battery, non free maintenance. After that... okey na ulit.

Btw, sabi dun sa battery shop, may tendency daw na m self discharge ang battery pag luma na.... which i agree afterwards.

HTH..

Salamat po sa lahat ng nag reply..

Good news..umabot sa 1yr warranty yung battery... 1 week before mag birthday ang unit ko...ang question ko ngayon, since pinalitan yung battery, that should mean na renewed yung 1yr warranty ulit dba...just in case masira nga ulit yung battery. Medyo low quality yung brand na GS eh. Sabagay nasa service records at resibo nman yung pag claim ng battery warranty.

Also, nagpa 15k PMS na rin ako kht medyo 14.2k pa lang... kaya lang, dko nabanggit na wag lagyan ng flushing...so ayun... ginamitan nnman ako ng linyang "standard po sa change oil yung flushing". Wala nman ako magagawa, nasa makina na eh...haaayy..