Toyota Avanza Owners & Discussions [ARCHIVED]

[sascha]

sa A/T, kapag nag neutral ka while in motion tapos bigla ka pasok sa D, anong gear sya papasok?

[Islaw*Palitaw]

sa A/T, kapag nag neutral ka while in motion tapos bigla ka pasok sa D, anong gear sya papasok?

Hindi kaya mai-pasok bigla sa CASA ang A/T mo at baka masira ang A/T transmission kapag palagi ginagawa ang from Nuetral --> Drive while in motion....Hehehehe

[hanamsi]

Maraming nagssabi rin na sa M/T, bad practice din ang mag coast in neutral. Dapat laging in gear when moving. So what I do is to have the car in gear but step on the clutch. I shift down to the correct gear for the speed that I am in. If engine braking is needed, I do not step on the clutch while in the correct gear.

sir can you explain why turning in neutral while moving is bad practice? ganun po kc practice ko eh para matipid sa gas... ok lang daw un sabi ng friend ko mekaniko...

[juanarodriguez]

Good eve. po!

I searched about this setting to N with A/T and came across several articles and forums~ based on what I've read it is NOT advisable to set to N while the car is in motion.

Here's a brief explanation I got from the Auto. Asso'n of Singapore share ko lang po (http://www.aas.com.sg/features/archive/otr1202.htm):

[SIZE=2]"Q. Does one keep the auto gear engaged while waiting for the traffic light to change to green or shift it to neutral?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]A. The gear should remain at D position. Changing gear frequently from D to N and back will cause more wear to the valves and clutch plates.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Q. Is it true that it is not advisable to "free"the gear at N and let the vehicle roll slowly when approaching a traffic light?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]A. It is not advisable to shift to N while on the move as this may damage the internal parts of the device. When engaged at N, deceleration will allow the output shaft to overrun the hydraulic clutches and the gear trains of the gearbox. All hydraulic clutches at this gear will be at a disengaged position. The driving and driven plates will be separated slightly as they rub against one another, causing premature wear and tear. At D position, the governor or speeds sensor in the Electronic Control Transmission is still in operation. There will then be an automatic downshift, also known as coast downshift, to give better control of the vehicle and engine braking.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Q. Can one shift the gear up and down when the vehicle is in motion?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]A. You can shift gears according to the road condition. For normal in-town and highway driving, use D4. The car will start with first gear and shift automatically to second, third and fourth. Use D3 when driving in heavy traffic. Use D2 for increase engine brake when driving down hill or for increase engine power when driving up hill. Use the first gear to provide maximum engine braking effect or when driving down a steep gradient. For more details, refer to your vehicle owner's manual.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Q. How do you use the Overdrive (OD) button? If the button is pressed, the "OD Off" sign lights up. Does this mean that there is no OD or vice versa? What is the use of OD?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]A. Overdrives are usually set to function at speeds above 60 km/h to reduce engine Revolution Per Minute under lighter operating conditions. Pressing the button will de-select the overdrive mode, thus the OD sign lights up. The OD function is equivalent to the fifth gear in a manual gearbox, which is used for long distance cruising for the benefit of fuel economy as well as minimising engine wear and tear. For example, you may de-select OD when going uphill to give more torque and engine braking."[/SIZE]

[_Qwerty_]

nice find * Juana..

ako naman.. pag alam kong matagal ang stoplight.. naging habit ko na yung gear to N then hand break.. para makapahinga yung right foot ko..

[woohoo]

Re: Pull Handles, kaya mo yan, tinutungkab lang yan... Sa handles ko, screw na lang ang kulang, kaya lang di pa ako nakakabili. Wala sa Ace at Concorde, e. pang-plate lang yung sa Concorde. :-(

Heto nga pala ang susunod na kabanata sa maaksyong talambuhay ng pull handles/hand grips: Me and my Avanza thread

[woohoo]

sir woohoo re this line "Here's my style: pag malayo pa sa humps, nag-neu-neutral ako, para kapag nag-brake, hindi masyado mahirapan ang preno"

sir, does this procedure also apply when you are descending sa mga bridges? i meant set the gear to neutral para hindi mahirapan ang preno?

so far smooth na naman yung braking ... no more sudden stops ... except pag may mga pasaway na bigla bigla na lang nagcu-cut. TIA

Dami kumontra sa pag-neutral ko, ah. Hehehe... Ang masasabi ko lang, nasa nagdadala lang iyan. Alisto naman akong mag-kambyo agad kung kinakailangan e. It only takes a split second... Of course I make sure that the coast is clear bago mag-neutral.

And re: the link you posted, sabi nga nila, DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ, lalo na sa web.

Sabi ko nga kay levanz nun, I prefer to believe the manual, which says, kahit akyatan, di ka dapat naka-2 or L, dapat D pa rin. And this contradicts one of the entries in the link you posted.

Advanced na ang technology ngayon, 2002 pa yung link na pinost mo, Ma'am Jane. In technology years, that's already decades old. Hehehe...

Maraming nagssabi rin na sa M/T, bad practice din ang mag coast in neutral. Dapat laging in gear when moving. So what I do is to have the car in gear but step on the clutch. I shift down to the correct gear for the speed that I am in. If engine braking is needed, I do not step on the clutch while in the correct gear.

Anyway, I'll be reading up more on how the transmission works, just to confirm what the old schoolers are advising...

Thanks for the inputs, guys...

[woohoo]

ramdam naman sa A/T yung engine breaking eh.. pag pababa kahit di mo lagay sa L or 2.. basta remove mo lang paa mo sa break and gas.. ramdam na nag e engine break sya..

I agree... Still, mas malakas ang engine braking kung manually, ilalagay mo sa 2 or L, kesa hintaying mong mag-automatic downshift ang system. Mas mabilis ang engine braking response.

[shadow3616931]

Dami kumontra sa pag-neutral ko, ah. Hehehe... Ang masasabi ko lang, nasa nagdadala lang iyan. Alisto naman akong mag-kambyo agad kung kinakailangan e. It only takes a split second... Of course I make sure that the coast is clear bago mag-neutral.

Sa A/T pag naka full stop ang car shift agad ako sa neutral para di naglalaban ang preno and engine and to save gas. Naalala ko dati ko car 7 speed CVT puede ka mag manual, kaya pag medyo kumakarera ako o paakyat nag mamanual ako muna para wala bitin. Kaya lang ang CVT di pa perfect gumugaralgal pag hard acceleration belt driven kasi. Dont worry yung Avanza A/T hindi CVT, FYI.

Sa M/T I usually shift to neutral when approaching a true stop traffic to save gas, sa patag lang pag pababa hindi, practice ko na yun eversince I was 16 years old. 10 years na kasi ako nagdadrive e.
O, may magpoprotesta ba? Sabihin nyo lang. Kundi

[lenuj]

nice find * Juana..

ako naman.. pag alam kong matagal ang stoplight.. naging habit ko na yung gear to N then hand break.. para makapahinga yung right foot ko..

I used to practice the same lalo na pagheavy traffic.

[jaspi11]

Sa A/T pag naka full stop ang car shift agad ako sa neutral para di naglalaban ang preno and engine and to save gas. Naalala ko dati ko car 7 speed CVT puede ka mag manual, kaya pag medyo kumakarera ako o paakyat nag mamanual ako muna para wala bitin. Kaya lang ang CVT di pa perfect gumugaralgal pag hard acceleration belt driven kasi. Dont worry yung Avanza A/T hindi CVT, FYI.

Sa M/T I usually shift to neutral when approaching a true stop traffic to save gas, sa patag lang pag pababa hindi, practice ko na yun eversince I was 16 years old. 10 years na kasi ako nagdadrive e.
O, may magpoprotesta ba? Sabihin nyo lang. Kundi

mas safe talaga kung downhill naka engage ang gear...kaya yung nangyari kay MARFIN nag engine break yun kaya nag drift yung rear wheel nya at basa pa ata ang kalye.......pero kung kabisado mo na din lang ang lugar at pababa kagaya sa amin sa bulubundukin ng laguna nag neutral din ako sa pababa....kabisado ko na din kasi lugar...practice ko na din to since i was 12 ng matuto akong mag drive.....6 yrs na kasi ako nag drive....attend kayo sa debut ko ha......

[juanarodriguez]

maraming salamat po for all the info!!!

Whew napaghahalata dito kung sino ang mga teenagers

Sir Jasp hindi pala kayo nagkakalayo ng official photographer na kasama mo last EB....

Woohoo (aka batchmate) I saw the pics posted by Sir Mel pang-Oscar ang dating mo don with your "engine cover" or whatever you call it! I will go and buy the screw later ... peace tayo ha!

Ang dami ko talaga natututunan dito sa forum.....

[meledson]

Aside from camaraderie, sharing is another major purpose ng board na ito. :D

BTW, there is a lot of info in the M/T vs A/T thread.

[woohoo]

Aside from camaraderie, sharing is another major purpose ng board na ito. :D

BTW, there is a lot of info in the M/T vs A/T thread.

Yeah! We will not "fight" as long as we respect each other's opinion... we should all AGREE TO DISAGREE at times, right, folks?

[dfcsantos]

Nanghihinayang lang kasi ako sa pera, ang mahal nung pang-plate kasi colored. Wala akong makitang ordinary. Pero kung wala talaga akong makita, yun na lang Allen head na yun, may Allen tools naman ako.

Thanks.

Kaya may sobra akong plate screw, dahil nagpalit ako ng special screws. Yung orig ang ginamit ko sa pull handles. Meron rin sigurong mabibili sa mga auto supply na mura lang.

[woohoo]

Kaya may sobra akong plate screw, dahil nagpalit ako ng special screws. Yung orig ang ginamit ko sa pull handles. Meron rin sigurong mabibili sa mga auto supply na mura lang.

Sir Dindo, May post ako regarding this dun sa "Me and My Avanza" thread: http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48151

[shadow3616931]

Kaya may sobra akong plate screw, dahil nagpalit ako ng special screws. Yung orig ang ginamit ko sa pull handles. Meron rin sigurong mabibili sa mga auto supply na mura lang.

What I did is I removed 1 bolt from the existing to use it as sample then bought to nearest auto supply and installed. Installation was so easy.

[shadow3616931]

mas safe talaga kung downhill naka engage ang gear...kaya yung nangyari kay MARFIN nag engine break yun kaya nag drift yung rear wheel nya at basa pa ata ang kalye.......pero kung kabisado mo na din lang ang lugar at pababa kagaya sa amin sa bulubundukin ng laguna nag neutral din ako sa pababa....kabisado ko na din kasi lugar...practice ko na din to since i was 12 ng matuto akong mag drive.....6 yrs na kasi ako nag drive....attend kayo sa debut ko ha......

Ibig sabihin 10 years old ka nag-asawa? Kasi malaki na anak mo.

[dfcsantos]

Sir Dindo, May post ako regarding this dun sa "Me and My Avanza" thread: http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48151

Yup, kita ko na. Ang tingkad pala ng loob ng car mo.

[woohoo]

Yup, kita ko na. Ang tingkad pala ng loob ng car mo.

Hehehe... Oo nga... para malapit sa kulay ng labas... Sabi ng kuya ko, dapat kakulay ng interior ang seat covers. E di parang nakaterno ka ng beige tapos pula sapatos mo? Buti pa pula sapatos (labas), beige pantalon (interior), saka pulang shirt (seat covers)... Hehehe Siyanga pala, sir, paki-PM mo naman sa akin ang yahoo ID mo (o kaya kung anuman ang gamit mong pang instant messaging). Thanks.