lowering springs or "putol"

[tucson88]

mas maganda ba ang ride ng compressed springs than putol? di ba pag compressed pwede naman ibalik sa dating height? nagtanong kasi ako sa evangelista na mas okay daw compressed.
TIA

[[archie]]

Gud Day mga Sirs/Mam, Been lurking in tsikot forums for some time now reading a lot of tips from the experts.
Medyo newbie ako pagdating sa mga sasakyan, and I've been hearing about this "putol" lately sa mga kalala ko pati na din sa talyer. Tinatanong nga nila ako kung putol yun sa tsikot ko, di ko naman sila masagot dahil di ko nga alam.

Paano ko ba malalaman kung putol yun sakin? Anyways, I'm pretty much convince by the experts to avoind "Putol".

TY in advance for the replies

theres a way to find out... silipin yung springs then kung other than black color, malamang lowering spring. kaso may hnr na black, pwede mo tignan kung may tatak ng lowering spring around the coils.

mas maganda ba ang ride ng compressed springs than putol? di ba pag compressed pwede naman ibalik sa dating height? nagtanong kasi ako sa evangelista na mas okay daw compressed.
TIA

mas delicado compressed kasi they use heat to lower it. magiging mas brittle yung steel. buy the real deal. ul thank yourself later and hindi nagkakalayo ride ng stock and lowering spring. wag lang mga taiwan kasi tigas sobra ng ride.

hindi na mababalik sa orig ang compressed kasi mas delikado baka maputol na spring kakainit to manipulate the steel... worse maputol habang nakakabit na.

[tucson88]

theres a way to find out... silipin yung springs then kung other than black color, malamang lowering spring. kaso may hnr na black, pwede mo tignan kung may tatak ng lowering spring around the coils.



mas delicado compressed kasi they use heat to lower it. magiging mas brittle yung steel. buy the real deal. ul thank yourself later and hindi nagkakalayo ride ng stock and lowering spring. wag lang mga taiwan kasi tigas sobra ng ride.

hindi na mababalik sa orig ang compressed kasi mas delikado baka maputol na spring kakainit to manipulate the steel... worse maputol habang nakakabit na.

sir,even if the compression is only .5 to.75 inch drop, the springs would be brittle or the ride would be unforgiving?

[[archie]]

sir,even if the compression is only .5 to.75 inch drop, the springs would be brittle or the ride would be unforgiving?

the ride would be different but i would not know kung tough or bouncy. depende kung anong part ng spring yung iinitin. may spring rate kasi from top to bottom ang spring.

its does not matter kung saan or by how much drop, ininit pa rin and that causes fatigue on the metal.

buy the real deal. the handling would be night and day sa putol or compress. keep the orig para kung trip mo balik stock, madali. btw, change shocks kung drop ka kasi hindi kakayanin ng stock kung drop. magiging less yung play ng shocks and would cause it to bottom out lagi.

[tucson88]

will take note of that. ipon mode muna.hehe thanks

[mYk101]

mga sir any input sa Tanabe Sustec Super H? pano malalaman kung orig or hindi? dami na kasi ng labasan na fake eh..

[u12 lp]

paki correct na lang if mali..

springs are the ones responsible for the ride height of the vehicle. it is used in tandem with the shock absorber/strut as a system.

if you adjust one component of the system i.e. springs, definitely, you make the necessary changes to the other components (i.e. shock absorber, etc.) for it to function properly.

even if you use a lowering spring that is not matched with your shock absorber set-up (i.e. stock shocks), then it will be no different from using a "putol" springs on your ride.

if you have budget, get a lowering spring+short strut, pag on a budget, putol and torno.

pm lang if you have further inquiries.

[hiromi_777a]

Mga Sir ask ko lang, what if wala kang mahanap na lowering spring for your ride? Mitsubishi Adventure kasi wala daw lowering spring. One option I'm looking at is to have putol springs + palit ng shorter shocks.

[d'flash]

Mga Sir ask ko lang, what if wala kang mahanap na lowering spring for your ride? Mitsubishi Adventure kasi wala daw lowering spring. One option I'm looking at is to have putol springs + palit ng shorter shocks.

masyadong delikado ang putol spring, hanggat maaari iwasan mo na yan ang gawin mo, pag ginawa mo, gaganda nga tindig ng ride mo, alanganin naman buhay mo.

[niky]

Mga Sir ask ko lang, what if wala kang mahanap na lowering spring for your ride? Mitsubishi Adventure kasi wala daw lowering spring. One option I'm looking at is to have putol springs + palit ng shorter shocks.

Why?

If you want the look, you can simply get bigger wheels to fill in the wheel wells better, for less hassle.

[the_wildthing]

Mga Sir ask ko lang, what if wala kang mahanap na lowering spring for your ride? Mitsubishi Adventure kasi wala daw lowering spring. One option I'm looking at is to have putol springs + palit ng shorter shocks.

Di ba advantage ng Adventure ang mataas? Bakit mo gustong ibaba?

Kung gusto mo talaga puwede kang magpagawa ng custom. Mahal lang.

[dr. d]

Mga Sir ask ko lang, what if wala kang mahanap na lowering spring for your ride? Mitsubishi Adventure kasi wala daw lowering spring. One option I'm looking at is to have putol springs + palit ng shorter shocks.

putoling springs is always a bad idea. one problem with putol, is that they do not sit well.. think of sitting on a chair with only one buttock, with the other floating in the air. that's how putol spring sits on the spring seats. it can derail on the first serious bump on the road, leaving you with your car body touching the road.

[1D4LV]

imho, the adventure's height is designed for a purpose. this is to carry huge weight.
bakit kailangan mo i lower?

and yes, no to putol. been there done that. ride is not that good, damages your suspension components, handling gets affected, etc.

[Rockyds]

How about Lowering Clamps? Ok po ba yung instead na magpaputol? Kasi naka lowering springs na ako ngayon na Tein on my Lancer EX 1.6 kaso kulang sa drop lalo na yung sa harap, unlike used sa 2.0 variant ng EX, well it was actually made for that variant e, pero same body lang naman kaya nagtataka ako bakit iba ang drop. Maybe because mas magaan ang makina ng 1.6? Pero may nabasa din ako sa manual na merong 1.6 na may High Ground clearance, hindi ko alam kung nakaganun yung oto ko. Kulang sa detalye yung sa manual e kaya hirap masabi.

Kaya ngayon naiisip ko na gamitan ko kaya ng Clamp yung front springs ko, madagdagan lang drop kahit 3.4" - 1". Sa itsura niya ngayon parang hindi masyadong nakadrop e. Masama ba itong Clamp? And need pa ba initin ang springs pag ininstall ito? I guess mai-arm lang nila nito sa springs, just tightening the bolts will do to compress eh. So no need to heat, I think :-)

Gusto ko din kasi may option ako to go back sa normal ng Tein ko para maibenta kapag may pambili na ng Coilover. Do you guys think it's fine considering na designed naman for heavier car (2.0 EX) tong Tein na gamit ko so a little compression would compensate or should be fine?

[renzo_d10]

Yup most likely kasi mas magaan yung 1.6L engine. Same sa FD, ganda ng bagsak ng dos litros na Civic.

Benta mo nalang Tein mo kung ok lang. Then swap it with Tanabe DF (if meron available for EX) kasi mas mababa siya sa Tein AFAIK.

I don't really think the clamps are safe. Never heard of it actually, so malamang konti lang gumagamit. If may budget naman pang-coilies why not

[Rockyds]

Bale ito po yung clamps na kinakabit sa springs:





Chineck ko ang site ng Tanabe sadly walang available para sa Lancer EX. And looking at the specs especially the drop, halos pareho lang din ng Tein. Hay how I wish I had the cash to burn on coilovers.

[SiRbossR]

^I think those clamps would just degrade and will introduce accelerated metal fatigue in your springs.


Di kaya maxado maliit mags/tire combi mo kaya parang bitin ung drop?

[Rockyds]

^I think those clamps would just degrade and will introduce accelerated metal fatigue in your springs.


Di kaya maxado maliit mags/tire combi mo kaya parang bitin ung drop?

Actually mejo maliit ang overall diameter ko kumpara sa stock ko noon siguro by 1/4 inch. Stock was 205/60/16, ngayon naka 225/40/18 ako. Pero kasi iba talaga ang drop sa 1.6 na variant nito, dahil normally sa gulong na 235/40/18, napakaganda ng drop. Nag 225/40/18 ako pero malaki talaga difference, dapat maliit na difference lang . At merong nag 45 series na kasama ko same variant kame at springs pero yung drop niya hindi pa din kasinganda ng naka 235, normally magrub na yun kapag na 45 series ka pero sa kanya hindi nagrub e lalo na sa rear, dito pa lang masasabi nating iba talaga ang drop samin. Hayy kakainis mahal ng coilover wahahaha Mukhang tyaga tyaga muna ako ah. Naisipan ko lang gumamait ng clamps kasi merong nagbigay sakin sakto 4pcs, pang front ko lang. Kaso mukhang mapapamahal lang ako pagtagal.

[dr. d]

are those clamps safe for road use? they way i see it, the clamps will just concentrate stress on certain parts of the spring, hastening metal fatigue..

[aylaisabelle]

Mukhang hindi siya safe.

Mukhang magkakatamaan ang clamps na yan at makasira pa sa suspension ng kotse.

Gnwa ko dati sa civic ko stock SHOCKS at eibach lowering springs. Ayun after ilang months sira engine support, sira shocks pati wheel bearing sira.

Siguro sa bigat ng mags at sa pag drive narin ehhe.

Pero ayun ngayon back to stock height and shocks pati springs hu hu.

sarap ng dalin ang kotse kasi di na parang kabayong tumatalon ahhaha.

Kaya think twice talaga before lowering your car.
Looks vs. comfort ang labanan.

BTW Question lang:
May suggestion ba kayo magpapalit na ung 98 model starex namin ng leaf spring?
Nagiisip kami kung surplus lang or itong tiger leaf spring na ang kunin namin heh.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!