lowering springs or "putol"

[warbird]

i suggest you get an H&R sport 30mm drop lang para sa A101 mo na corolla pero check out kung ok pa ang shocks kasi sayang lang ma apektuhan ang handling.nag sasakay ako 4 hindi sumasayad.conservative drop lang medyo mas mababa ang likod kesa harap yan ang corolla nakatingala since progressive ang H&R ma cocorrect ang tayo tuwid at unat swabe.

[decipher]

sir warbird at mga bro

san nyp ba recommend bumili ng h&r sport na lowering spring? alam nyo po ba contact numbers nila? nag tanong kse ko sa fusion r medyo mahal eh... 12.5K.. baka may masmurang mabilhan na alam nyo... thanks

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by the_wildthing
If I'm not mistaken, yung tukod look is for rear-wheel drag race cars, and very fast ones at that. Aerodynamic efficiency in a straight line is the reason, I think. Plus the rear wheels that drive the car are usually bigger.

It's not advisable for street cars esp. front wheel drive cars.

H&R would be your best bet. Hindi naman yan taon-taon pinapalitan.

The tukod-look is meant for FWD drag cars to minimize "wheel-hop" during hard launches. Aerodynamics have almost nothing to do with it.

[the_wildthing]

Ah ok.

I was thinking about the "funny car" class of the old days at NHRA which are RWD cars and had the tukod look - really low fronts and very thin wheels... These went the quarter mile in 7 seconds or less. In hindsight, I think it was so the front wheels won't go airborne as much.

Now funny cars are made of carbon fiber and no longer have the tukod look.

[odell]

ok sana kung american muscle kaya ganun itsura..

[the_wildthing]

Yep, mga funny cars noong una based on American muscle cars.

[decipher]

bro,

san ba makakabili ng murang h&r at kyb shox? may alam ba kau na shop? pati sana contact nos. para makapag canvas ako .
thanks

[ssaloon]

nasa ganong price talaga H&R springs pare. sa suking auto supply mo naman mabibili yung kyb gas shocks.

[warbird]

bro
yung sa akin kay car shack sa bagtikan st.,Makati malapit sa toyota bel-air 12.5k talaga presyo pero sulit naman then install nila ng 1.2k mga 2hours ka mag hintay then pa check align mo sa likod nila yung Tire Masters 300 bucks lang in-adjust sa kin toe in and out.8.30 am mo dalin before lunch feel mo na handling kakaiba balitaan mo ako ha! look for the owner ramon villacorta ni refer kita Bert (Warbird) Enjoy driving!

[decipher]

bros,

thanks sa input nyo... short ako sa shox kaya ipon muna ulit konti.. kse kung apat na shox bilhin ko mga 8 k din un eh.. thanks ...God blesss

[patrick898]

recently lang pina putol ko springs ng lxi 96 ko ng mga 3 ikot, pag kabit di na pantay ung left clearance ng mags to fender sa right side, mga 1 finger lang ang kasya sa right and 2 fingers sa left pantay naman ang pagka putol ng springs and pantay naman ung clearance before putulan anu kaya prob dun? thnks!

[v6dreamer]

Its a mistake...
Never, never cut the spring of your suspension as the spring gets old its get lower the constant specially which side of the car got the load most of the time. It may look same, but they are not one is softer than the other even a precison cut wont do no good. If you want to lower the fender clearance you should bought a lowering spring or Coil-over Suspension kit( this is adjustable) or Sports Cup Kit and keep your stock springs.

[patrick898]

pero nakakabit din siya sa ibang lxi 2 mos ago pantay naman ung clearance niya, sabi ng mekaniko sira daw ung upper assembly ko pero kapapalit ko lng naman..

[v6dreamer]

Okey, pantay 2 months ago and now what, tagilid na. Cutting spring is the cheapest things to lowered a car but this a misinformed to the costumers for safety reason. Cutting an spring also increase stress level on the spring as well as affecting another related chassis component.

Here are some problem you may encounter in your car if you cut the spring.

1. Poor handling
2. Poor ride quality
3. Compromised safety
4. Premature fatigue and sagging
5. Shock/ struts bottoming out
6. Excessive negative camber
7. Premature tire wear from camber problem

Lahat yan mangyayari sa kotse mo. kaya nakatagilid ang kotse mo ngayon ay (read # 4 and 5) those 2 are now your problem. Correct the problem before it will cost you more. Good luck.

[[archie]]

recently lang pina putol ko springs ng lxi 96 ko ng mga 3 ikot, pag kabit di na pantay ung left clearance ng mags to fender sa right side, mga 1 finger lang ang kasya sa right and 2 fingers sa left pantay naman ang pagka putol ng springs and pantay naman ung clearance before putulan anu kaya prob dun? thnks!

ive made a thread about this already. thats normal for the the EK series (96-00). yung stock height pa yung oto mo, hindi mo lang pansin yan pero talagang mas bagsak yung left sa right kasi dun nakalean yung engine natin. kung gusto mo pantay, just get the coil sleeves... hirap pantayain pero it can be done.

kahit the most expensive lowering spring, hindi papantay yung left sa right. tama din sila to just get the after market springs. yung stock ko hindi ko pinutol kasi naisip ko baka gusto ko stock height ulit in the future.

o well the damage has been done, there are cheap lowering out there, R-1 would cost around 6k for adjustables.

[1D4LV]

recently lang pina putol ko springs ng lxi 96 ko ng mga 3 ikot, pag kabit di na pantay ung left clearance ng mags to fender sa right side, mga 1 finger lang ang kasya sa right and 2 fingers sa left pantay naman ang pagka putol ng springs and pantay naman ung clearance before putulan anu kaya prob dun? thnks!

the best thing you can do there is get aftermarket lowering springs or go back to the usual stock height springs.

ok lang di pantay (cosmetically) kesa biglang masira lahat ng suspension components mo.

[pahiyaka]

ok here's the story..

kakabili ko lang ng slightly used lowering spring na 1.5 drop and hinde basta basta ang brand.. nung papakabit ko na sya punta ako banawe 1st time ko dun so wala ako alam na ok na shop so tanong tanong ako sa mga tao dun, siguro out of 8 na pinagtanungan ko 4 sa kanila parehas sagot so dun ako pumunta. Nung pinakabit ko na spring ko medyo bitin yung drop sabi saken ng mekaniko "Sir parang bitin ah gusto mo babaan pa natin?" since pansin ko parang bitin nga sabi ko "onga eh parang ganon pa rin height, sige babaan nyo pa." akala ko naman may ilalagay lng or something, so nag ikot ikot muna ako sa banawe para mag window shopping. pag balik ko nakita ko yung spring may sunog sa dulo! pinutulan pala! sabi nung nag kabit ok lang daw yun ganon pa din. sa sobrang shock at asar ko hinde ko na pinakabit yung lowering spring sa likod! Sumibat na lang ako agad! grrr

tanong:

1. Ok lang ba talaga yun? since hinde naman stock eh. (sorry hinde ko pa naranasan sumakay sa lowered na kotse 1st time ko toh)

2. Ano pinag kaiba sa stock spring na pinutol?

3. KYB gas shocks lang gamit ko, ok na ba yun?

4. pa explain naman sa akin kung ano ba ang matagtag? pansin ko medyo stiff na sya and hinde bouncy pag dumadaan ako sa mga bumps. yun ba ang matagtag? im running on 17" rims nga din pala


hayyy sana naman ok lang kasi ilang beses ako hinde kumaen para tipirin allowance.. sana hinde sayang. huhuhu

[empy]

ouch.

cutting springs is very bad. search ka na lang about "cutting lowering springs" or "putol lowering springs" and all the relevant information will be there. but in summary - it's a potential safety hazard, it will reduce the life of your shocks, and your car's ride will be uncomfortable, guaranteed.

what's worse, di na yan pede i-reverse. you'll either have to put back the stock springs or get new lowering springs.

lesson na lang sana yan na always make sure you know what's going on with your car at bantayan mo if at all possible. sorry for your misfortune.

[shadow]

damn! :ouch:

[Memphis Raines]

Sorry you had to go through what you did. For your questions:

1. It is never good to cut springs yourself, stock or lowered - my personal experience taught me so . You simply just have to get aftermarket ones that have been weighed and cut to spec for lowering. Period.

2. Same as the above only this procedure is called a 'budget modification' which should never be compromised especially that it is a performance upgrade. Safety First.

3. Matagtag is stiff riding meaning the progression or travel of your springs is very limited in terms of flex. Lowering springs are already stiffer than stock because the coil is shorter, minimal shock absorption na. Pair this with your 17s and the thinner 50 series tires then voila! Your butt is now a secondary shock absorber.

You have to understand a lowering spring is not an aesthetic upgrade, it is bolted-on to improve cornering in circuit races, minimizing sway by keeping the car lower to the ground.

Here's a site that may help you: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...l_springs.html

my :twocents:

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