The Perpetual NBA Thread

**mikaztro** · November 5th, 2004 01:08 PM

Who wil win, USA's best or Team Europe etal?

TEAM USA
C-Shaq Oneal
F-Kevin Garnett
F-Tracy Mcgrady
G-Kobe Bryant
G-Allen Iverson

C-Jermain Oneal
F-Ben Wallace
F-Vince Carter
G-Steve Francis
G-Jason Kidd

Reserves:
Ray Allen
Paul Pierce

INTERNATIONAL TEAM
C-Yao Ming
F-Tim Duncan
F-Dirk Nowitzki
G-Pedja Stojakovic
G-Steve Nash

C-Pau Gasol
F-Andrei Kirilenko
F-Jamaal Magloire
G-Manu Ginobili
G-Tony Parker

Reserves:
Hedo Turkoglu
Zydrunas Ilgauskas

**theveed** · November 5th, 2004 01:24 PM

Galing ni AK kagabi... hehe I really admire Sloan, kahit anong ibato mo he'll make something out of the team... Lupet din ni Boozer...

**kimpOy** · November 5th, 2004 02:06 PM

iba talaga ang ang fetish ni sloan sa white/semi-white players

**theveed** · November 5th, 2004 02:39 PM

in today's league, white guys have better fundamentals than the lebron-minded kids... Malone and Duncan lang naiisip ko na itim na ok fundamentals eh hehe.

**ILuvDetailing** · November 5th, 2004 02:53 PM

Don't forget about Kobe, he's as fundamentally as sound a player as there is in the League. He just makes a lot of spectacular plays thats why it gets overshadowed.

**theveed** · November 5th, 2004 03:01 PM

Being fundamentally sound covers your skill to become a team player, Kobe doens't fit my bill on that one, rarely do highschool players play disciplined fundamental bball, Kobe got some from playing in Italy, but far cry from being "fundamentally sound" for a pro IMO.

**mikaztro** · November 5th, 2004 04:06 PM

Lacking in FUNDAMENTALS is the main reason why TEAM USA lost the Gold in the Athens Olympics.

I think players with good fundamentals are the ones who can (dribble & shoot the ball with ease left/right, adept passing, sound free throw shooting, unrelenting rebounding, defensive audacity and teamanship skills).

There are international players who have good fundamentals like:

Dirk Nowitzki, Peja Stojakovic, Pau Gasol and Manu Ginobilli.

White Americans who have it are:

Larry Bird, Chris Mullin, Kevin Mchale, Mike Bibby, Rick Barry, Pete Maravich and Bob Cousy to name a few.

Underrated players with good fundamentals:
Tayshaun Prince, Stephen Jackson, Josh Howard, Bobby Jackson, Jalen Rose, Deshawn Stevenson, Hedo Turkoglu, Marco Jaric, Bob Sura, Vlad Radmanovic, Zach Randolph, Kareem Rush, Eduardo Najera, Gilbert Arenas, Ron Mercer, Matt Harping, Eddie Griffin, Brent Barry, Jiri Welsch, Luke Jackson, and yes!... Yuta Tabuse.

**ram** · November 5th, 2004 04:30 PM

Kobe likes to pass if the team is winning. Otherwise, he wants to get the ball. Period. That's why Shaq got the boot. Payback time for Shaq :badboy:

**luloym** · November 5th, 2004 05:10 PM

it's early in the season, folks. team's true worth should come out december.

**ILuvDetailing** · November 5th, 2004 05:17 PM

Kobe can be one of the best passers in the L if he wants to the problem is his willingness... Lets see he can pass, shoot, dribble, play defense. Kobe came into a league as an raw 17yr old, but he developed and polished his game and won three championships playing within the triangle.

mikaztro: mmm... How can you include Deshawn Stevenson and Eddie Griffin on your list of "underated" fundamentally sound players???