China Corona Virus Outbreak

[dr. d]

Doc, we all know naman Moderna's vaccine and other SARSCOV2 vaccines were rushed

from concept to animal testing to human testing to stage 3 clinical trials in less than a year

NOBODY knows the vaccines' effect in 5 years (the pandemic is only 1 year old)

there's no data yet on how long those vaccines will protect people

there's no data yet on long term side effects

malalaman yan after mass vaccination (after approval by gov't regulators)

oobserbahan yan ng mga pharma for many years

i believe that's called stage 4

that's nice.
you agree with me.

[uls]

^^^

Doc it's not about agreeing or disagreeing

the answer to your question is pretty much common sense:

but how will all these vaccines be, over a span of, let's say, 5 years?

how can anyone know the long term effect of the vaccine when it was only created several months ago

[Ry_Tower]

China's propaganda machines are pushing the Italian timeline now to insist the wuhan virus didn't come from them.



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It was found in ****. Probably why they knew how to find it.

[111prez]

And the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS propaganda machinery goes into overdrive.

[dr. d]

^^^





how can anyone know the long term effect of the vaccine when it was only created several months ago

good point.
we should all think of that.

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Swedish COVID herd immunity experiment...the human cost was not worth it...



After resisting lockdowns, Sweden is now imposing 'unprecedented' coronavirus restrictions as cases soar | SBS News

Sweden, which has made headlines for its softer approach to the new coronavirus, on Monday banned public gatherings of more than eight people for the first time amid a strong surge in cases.

The limit for public gatherings, until now set to between 50 and 300 people depending on the type of event, will be reduced to eight as of 24 November, an "unprecedented" measure deemed "necessary" to curb the spread of the virus, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven told reporters.

On Friday, the last day for which national data is available, Sweden reported a daily record of 5,990 cases, bringing its overall total to 177,355 cases since the start of the pandemic and 6,164 deaths.

[dr. d]

Swedish COVID herd immunity experiment...the human cost was not worth it...



After resisting lockdowns, Sweden is now imposing 'unprecedented' coronavirus restrictions as cases soar | SBS News

well,
it was an experiment.
not all experiments end up with rosy conclusions.

the real tragedy would be, if no one learned from it.

'hirap maging senior citizen doon...
wrong time, wrong location.

[Ry_Tower]

well,
it was an experiment.
not all experiments end up with rosy conclusions.

the real tragedy would be, if no one learned from it.

'hirap maging senior citizen doon...
wrong time, wrong location.

Wrong experiment lang if you ask me since we had the spanish flu as precedent and we know how flu spreads.

Initial results then already showed a deadly and highly contagious disease.

Just runs counter to every data and experience available at that time. Maybe in a single village they could have done it, but not for a whole country.

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[dr. d]

Wrong experiment lang if you ask me since we had the spanish flu as precedent and we know how flu spreads.

Initial results then already showed a deadly and highly contagious disease.

Just runs counter to every data and experience available at that time. Maybe in a single village they could have done it, but not for a whole country.

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let us hope that the rest of the world was watching and learned from it.

[uls]

RE: Sweden

They know from the start it is a very contagious virus

Kaya para sa head epidemiologist nila lockdowns/restrictions are useless coz it will only delay the inevitable infections (everyone's gonna catch the virus sooner or later)

Ang sugal niya let the epidemic run its course

ung mga na-infect will develop immunity

ang mali sa sugal niya immunity lasts only about 12 weeks

kaya madami Swedes who were infected before got infected again

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Italian COVID...

The researchers thought of testing a new COVID test kit on samples taken from a 2019-2020 screening involving lung cancer patients. They found COVID antibodies. They tested the anti-bodies to see if it was a another strain, but it killed the COVID 19 virus. All those tested were Asymptomatic.

Coronavirus hunters pick up another piece of the trail in Italy | South China Morning Post

The unexpected finding “may reshape the history of [the] pandemic”, said the team led by Dr Gabriella Sozzi, a life scientist with the National Cancer Institute of Milan, in a peer-reviewed paper published last week in the Tumori Journal.

Sozzi said the team used a specialised test with an accuracy exceeding 96 per cent. She said this resulted in more than 100 samples, or over 10 per cent of the participants, testing positive.
The researchers said they were surprised by the prevalence of infections from the novel coronavirus, saying that from the first week of September to the end of February, there was at least one positive case from each of Italy’s 13 regions.

The researchers tested blood samples from lung cancer screening tests in Italy and said they found antibodies specific to Sars-CoV-2, the virus causing Covid-19, in samples from patients all over the country in every month of a six-month trial that started in September 2019.

According to the research paper, Sozzi’s team was still concerned the antibodies they detected were generated by an infection by another type of coronavirus. To eliminate this risk, they performed another test to see if the antibodies could neutralise Sars-CoV-2, which they did.

To the question why Italian health authorities or doctors had not detected the virus earlier, the researchers said participants in the cancer screening did not show symptoms, which indicated a high proportion of asymptomatic carriers.

From November, some doctors in Italy did report an unusual increase of severe respiratory ailments among the elderly and vulnerable populations, but these cases were labelled as flu.

Some scientists suspect that a previous prevalence of other types of coronavirus might have given an immunity boost to people in local communities. But what these viruses were and if they were linked to the origin of the Sars-CoV-2 virus still remains a puzzle.

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COVID-19 positivity rate in NCR continues to decline — OCTA Research | Inquirer News

“A significant finding of this monitoring report is the continued decline in the positivity rate in the NCR which is now at 4% (down from 5%),” the group said in its report dated Monday but released to the media on Tuesday.

The World Health Organization recommends that the positivity rate should remain below five percent.

The positivity rate is the percentage of those who tested positive for the new coronavirus out of the total number of individuals tested.

According to OCTA Research, the reproduction number in the country for COVID-19 also decreased from the previous 0.87 to 0.81 and remains below 1 for the period of November 9 to 15.

The reproduction number in Metro Manila also decreased from the previous 0.82 to 0.71 and remains below 1 for the same period.

Meanwhile, hospital occupancy for total regular and intensive care unit COVID-19 beds remains below critical level for most of the local government units in Metro Manila, according to the research group.

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Do you think the internet should be regulated, were some groups like conspiracy theorist should be banned? Maybe we can start here...hehehe

Covid nurse says some dying patients are still refusing to believe virus is real: ‘This can’t be happening’ | The Independent

Emergency room patients in the US often don’t want to believe Covid-19 is real even after testing positive for the virus, according to a South Dakota nurse.

Jodi Doering spoke out in a series of tweets as cases in the US topped 11 million, expressing concern that her coronavirus patients are spending time when they should be talking to their loved ones instead filled with denial, anger and hatred.

Ms Doering works as an emergency room nurse in South Dakota. On 15 November, she began a series of tweets talking about her dismay at patients refusing to believe they are infected with the coronavirus – or that the disease even exists. Since then, her tweets have gone viral, being shared online by hundreds of thousands of people.

“I think the hardest thing to watch is that people are still looking for something else and they want a magic answer and they don’t want to believe that Covid is real … their last dying words are, ‘This can’t be happening, it’s not real’.

In her tweets, Ms Doering said that while sitting on her couch with her dog on her night off from the hospital, she can’t help “but think of the Covid patients the last few days.”

“The ones that stick out are those who still don’t believe the virus is real. The ones who scream at you for a magic medicine and that Joe Biden is going to ruin the USA. All while gasping for breath … They tell you there must be another reason they are sick. They call you names and ask why you have to wear all that stuff because they don’t have Covid because it’s not real. Yes. This really happens. And I can’t stop thinking about it,” she tweeted.

[uls]

Do you think the internet should be regulated, were some groups like conspiracy theorist should be banned? Maybe we can start here...hehehe

Covid nurse says some dying patients are still refusing to believe virus is real: ‘This can’t be happening’ | The Independent

hehe

meron talaga mga naniniwala there's really no virus

there's no such thing as 2019-nCoV or SARSCOV2

it was all made up daw...

#scamdemic

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Taking mouthwash more seriously...

Mouthwash kills coronavirus within 30 seconds | Daily Mail Online

HOW COULD MOUTHWASH FIGHT COVID-19?
Coronaviruses belong to the class of 'enveloped viruses', meaning they are covered by a fatty layer that is vulnerable to certain chemicals.

Studies have suggested agents found in mouthwash – such as low amounts of ethanol – could disrupt the membranes of other lipid viruses, in the same way as UV rays.

For instance, researchers say iodine mouthwashes have proved effective against SARS and MERS, two diseases caused by similar coronaviruses.

Scientists in May called for urgent research into the use of readily available mouthwash to reduce the spread of the virus.

[boybi]

As long as there are people who believe the earth is flat....

[shadow]

Do you think the internet should be regulated, were some groups like conspiracy theorist should be banned? Maybe we can start here...hehehe

Covid nurse says some dying patients are still refusing to believe virus is real: ‘This can’t be happening’ | The Independent

Hinde na ok na yan, death is the greatest lesson.


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[dr. d]

Taking mouthwash more seriously...

Mouthwash kills coronavirus within 30 seconds | Daily Mail Online

will i dissuade my patient from doing it?
no.

will i prescribe it for covid?
"do it if you like. done correctly, it won't do significant harm."

i'm a doctor,
but that doesn't mean, i know everything.

[_Cathy_]

will i dissuade my patient from doing it?
no.

will i prescribe it for covid?
"do it if you like. done correctly, it won't do significant harm."

i'm a doctor,
but that doesn't mean, i know everything.

I bactidol almost daily na pero I know I shouldn't, baka mawala effectivity sakin hehe

[boybi]

Drink the mouthwash? Di ba mas delikado than covid yan if ininom?