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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    New record... 1 million cases in 8 days...



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    well,
    it's a big country with lots of either mis-informed, ill-informed or non-believers...

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    with or without vaccine the virus will be with humanity for a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    with or without vaccine the virus will be with humanity for a long time
    China's contribution to civilization, the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS


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    ^^

    want a conspiracy theory?

    heard of The Great Reset?



    it's a plan by the global elite (the Davos crowd) to push their pro-environment agenda

    they're taking advantage of the disruption caused by the pandemic

    they're using this opportunity to implement their agenda

    Question: are they only reacting to the pandemic?

    i mean, like everyone else, they didn't see this coming but since it's here they're not letting this opportunity go to waste

    OR

    do they have something to do with the pandemic?

    was this planned all along?

    the pro-environment agenda has been around even before the 2006 documentary "An Inconvenient Truth"

    they see the human race on an unsustainable path and the planet is in danger of becoming uninhabitable

    they believe human civillization needs to "reset" to allow the Earth to heal

    what if a virus was intentionally released para ma-implement ung plan

    while everyone is blaming China yun pala China is only part of the global elite's network

    China is only the launch pad for the virus

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    ^
    what if the great reset is the vaccine majority the people hope for?

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    it's in those swedish meatballs

    Hospitalizations have also increased dramatically, with over 1000 patients with COVID-19 being treated in hospitals, a 60% increase from last week. The figures were reported by state broadcaster SVT and cited by the Guardian.

    The death rate from coronavirus in Sweden is now one of the highest in the world when adjusted for population size.
    Sweden has admitted its coronavirus immunity predictions were wrong as cases soar across the country | Business Insider

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    #19147
    Canadian prime minister

    "opportunity to reset"

    Last edited by uls; November 16th, 2020 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ^
    what if the great reset is the vaccine majority the people hope for?

    ito ung hinihintay ng mga treehugger tulad mo

    ang goal ng Great Reset is zero carbon emissions

    dapat alam mo ito

    baka ngayon mo lang narinig itong Great Reset

    basa basa pag may time

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    ^
    im a life preserver Im more into halting not to destroy.

    Example pag may langgam sa isang area i donot bahygon. I use dahon ng laurel and curry powder. Its the scent that repels.

    One time opened a can of libbys corned beef with curry. Tapos iniwan ko sa table not knowing may himala walang langgam kasi ayaw nila amoy. Pero nung tinangal ko delata eh bumalik yung langgam.

    Tamad kasi ako maghugas agad pinggan plato baso. So natetenga sa lamesa. Eh lapitin ang wood ng insects.

    So my next move is to buy an all glass personal dining table. (personal because im single )

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    Kwento mo yun ginagamit mo kuko mo para maging fence ng mga langgam. [emoji23]


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    #19151
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ^
    im a life preserver Im more into halting not to destroy.
    the agenda is to stop the destruction of the planet

    they needed something disruptive enough to slow down or stop human activity

    a virus --> lockdowns --> bumaba ang carbon emissions

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    the agenda is to stop the destruction of the planet

    they needed something disruptive enough to slow down or stop human activity

    a virus --> lockdowns --> bumaba ang carbon emissions
    i wonder,
    who's "they" ?

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    #19153
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    this is what i read about rapid antigen test.
    if it's positive, then you're positive.
    if it tests negative, then you have to confirm using traditional pcr.
    Sa pagka scientist ni elon, nagpa test siya ng 4 beses same day, same machine, same person nag process...

    2 returned positive and the others were negative... kaya sinasabi nya na may something yung antigen test...

    If we follow your readings, 4 should come out either positive or neg...

    Oh well, why not go straight to traditional pcr... or maybe he has developed something more accurate rapid test for release...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Sa pagka scientist ni elon, nagpa test siya ng 4 beses same day, same machine, same person nag process...

    2 returned positive and the others were negative... kaya sinasabi nya na may something yung antigen test...

    If we follow your readings, 4 should come out either positive or neg...

    Oh well, why not go straight to traditional pcr... or maybe he has developed something more accurate rapid test for release...


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    rapid antigen test is not sensitive enough kaya madami false neg

    pag sobra konte nakuha virus sa swab baka di madetect ng kit

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Sa pagka scientist ni elon, nagpa test siya ng 4 beses same day, same machine, same person nag process...

    2 returned positive and the others were negative... kaya sinasabi nya na may something yung antigen test...

    If we follow your readings, 4 should come out either positive or neg...

    Oh well, why not go straight to traditional pcr... or maybe he has developed something more accurate rapid test for release...


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    "borderline level" is a common occurence in the medical laboratory.
    it's when the amount of molecules/particles present, is just about a shade below the minimum detectable levels of the diagnostic test.
    when faced with these problems, they either repeat the test after a prescribed time period (a few days, a week, etc), or we test again using a more sensitive test method.

    the more sensitive test method is usually also considerably more expensive, less available, and may take a longer period of time.

    "generic answer." not for covid alone.

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    #19156
    ^^^

    rapid antigen test only give you a yes or no

    sa PCR meron cut off value

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    sa PCR there are amplification cycles

    20 to 40 cycles

    pag 20+ cycles palang and meron na nakikita that's strong positive

    pag may nadedetect only after 30 near 40 cycles that's weak positive

    kaya it depends on the lab

    meron nga controversy how many cycles ba talaga needed to determine if someone is positive or not

    nakaka-apekto kasi sa buhay yan

    i mean declaring someone positive when he's really not

    sobra sensitive ang PCR

    the PCR test can't tell if someone is infectious or not

    some sectors are questioning if PCR tests should be used at all

    nakakasira kasi ng buhay yan

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    #19158
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    rapid antigen test only give you a yes or no

    sa PCR meron cut off value
    ... upon which, the report hinges.

    the rapid test may give only a yes or no,
    but the knowledgeable user knows what that particular test's cut-off value is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ... upon which, the report hinges.

    the rapid test may give only a yes or no,
    but the knowledgeable user knows what that particular test's cut-off value is.

    Doc a rapid antigen test only uses a strip inside cassette

    either a line shows up or doesn't

    there's no cut off value to interpret



    kaya yes or no lang

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    pansin ko madalas we're not on the same page ni dr d


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    yung PCR test yan ang may cut off value

    you run 20 to 40 amplification cycles to detect viral DNA

    at what number is the cut off?

    pag negative sa 30 pero positive sa 40 ano ilagay mo sa papel?

    that cut off can affect someone's life

China Corona Virus Outbreak