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    This compounds the problem: Print shop fakes COVID-19 test results for P25

    Ilan na kayang mga itong nag sumite ng pekeng resulta tapos positive pala


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    We have breached 100k as per this dude


    Not sure if his data is reliable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    but it's lower than other European countries like Britain and Spain which both implemented lockdowns
    but you also have to put things in perspective because if you compare sweden's population of 10,099,265 to the uk's 67,886,011 and spain's 46,754,778 then that's not exactly painting a better picture of the situation in question. but if the deaths due to covid 19 are put into contrast for every 100,000 deaths of their respective citizenry, then the statistics of their fatalities wouldn't be far off because each respective country has so far tallied :

    uk - 67.97
    spain - 60.55
    sweden - 54.93

    * (for every 100,000 deaths)

    so iyong bilang ng mga nasawi nila hindi din talaga nagkakalayo sa isa't-isa in relation to each of the country's number of citizens.
    Last edited by baludoy; July 24th, 2020 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Time will tell if they were effective or otherwise ... while most of the world's waiting for the 2nd wave ... they won't have one ... they're betting that in the long term, their solution is the better option for them ...
    in the long run this really could be a better option for them because they may have basically eliminated a whole category of people - via natural selection - who would otherwise expensively burden the tax funded health care system of theirs in the name of herd immunity. why support the weak and the elderly when they can save the healthy current and future contributors of their society in one fell swoop .

    i guess that's swedish viking pragmatism at its best. is it bad? i don't think i'm fit to judge such practicality.
    Last edited by baludoy; July 24th, 2020 at 04:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Then we're doing better...consistent. [emoji23]


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    my thoughts,

    they're happy because they know they did something "wrong", but instead of getting infected, they still tested non-reactive.
    that's why they're happy.

    heh heh heh.
    evil thoughts, me.
    Doc if the covid virus can stay on air for a couple of hours then if I spray lysol inside car space will it kill the virus? how about if I spray alcohol inside car will it have same effect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Doc if the covid virus can stay on air for a couple of hours then if I spray lysol inside car space will it kill the virus? how about if I spray alcohol inside car will it have same effect?

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    i don't know.
    if i were me, i'd just open the windows and the doors.
    sanitizing with a UV light also helps.
    it's probably more effective at ridding of the virus.

    addendum:
    i did a quick google.
    the product is designed as a surface disinfectant. it is not for foods or surfaces that may come in contact with food.
    the etiketa did not say that it is designed as an "air disinfectant", either.
    Last edited by dr. d; July 24th, 2020 at 10:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i don't know.
    if i were me, i'd just open the windows and the doors.
    it's probably more effective at ridding of the virus.
    Okay for how many minutes at least?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Okay for how many minutes at least?

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    as long as i can.

    alam nyo...
    the virus did not read the book.
    do not expect it to follow protocol.

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    I remember reading an article WHO confirms or at least leaning towards that the virus can float thru air for hours based on recommendation of scientist. So why most people dont wear a safety googles or face shield? government should make it mandatory just like wearing a mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Doc if the covid virus can stay on air for a couple of hours then if I spray lysol inside car space will it kill the virus? how about if I spray alcohol inside car will it have same effect?

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    Simula ng dumating covid sa labas na ng garahe naka park sasakyan ko.
    Ulan at init, pag gagamitin night before spray ako ng lysol lalo na sa mga aiircon vent.
    Pag galing sa labas, toilet paper with alcogel punas steering wheel, then bilad ulit sa araw.

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    If there would be an available vaccine let say 1st qtr next year are you willing to be vaccinated? we all know that it could have a side effect but weighing the side effect and covid virus will you take the risk?

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    Now they tell us: Vague home quarantine rules blamed for rise in cases | Philstar.com

    Somebody should remind the OP that the DoH is part of the Executive Branch of government and its failure is the failure of the administration


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    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Now they tell us: Vague home quarantine rules blamed for rise in cases | Philstar.com

    Somebody should remind the OP that the DoH is part of the Executive Branch of government and its failure is the failure of the administration

    it's common sense.

    well,
    it just proves (again!) that common sense is among the rarest of senses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Simula ng dumating covid sa labas na ng garahe naka park sasakyan ko.
    Ulan at init, pag gagamitin night before spray ako ng lysol lalo na sa mga aiircon vent.
    Pag galing sa labas, toilet paper with alcogel punas steering wheel, then bilad ulit sa araw.
    Spraying lysol at aircon vents is it safe i mean will it not damage the plastic vent? I saw a photo before he sprayed lysol in the dashboard and might accidentally sprayed the transparent plastic of the speedometer and it becomes hazy and cannot remove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Spraying lysol at aircon vents is it safe i mean will it not damage the plastic vent? I saw a photo before he sprayed lysol in the dashboard and might accidentally sprayed the transparent plastic of the speedometer and it becomes hazy and cannot remove it.

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    let us read the warning labels.

    the original active ingredient when first introduced about a hundred years ago, was an aromatic alcohol of the cresol family. hence the name.
    nowadays... iba-iba na ang laman ng "lysol".
    Last edited by dr. d; July 24th, 2020 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Spraying lysol at aircon vents is it safe i mean will it not damage the plastic vent? I saw a photo before he sprayed lysol in the dashboard and might accidentally sprayed the transparent plastic of the speedometer and it becomes hazy and cannot remove it.

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    Should be safe.
    Spill from my liquid air freshener is more damaging to plastics than lysol.

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    Dining in covid times tips by a doctor:
    1 pointers for COVID-safe dining | Inquirer Lifestyle

    Although the coronavirus-causing COVID-19 is not known to be food-borne, it’s important that food handlers and diners must take proper precaution when cooking or eating to avoid catching the virus.

    1. Avoid raw foods for now, including raw fish, meat, unpasteurized dairy products.

    2. Wash vegetables, fruits thoroughly if uncooked, and eat immediately.

    3. Reheat leftover food before eating.

    4. Those cooking food must wash their hands thoroughly (for at least 20 seconds) after doing any of the following: cleaning work areas (countertops, oven, etc), handling raw food, touching garbage, touching one’s face or other parts of the body, shaking hands, going to the toilet, touching door knobs.

    The cook must behave like a surgeon who’s already sterile and should avoid contamination during the entire operation.

    5. The cook should also preferably use face mask.

    6. If any of the cook or food handlers feel unwell or a bit “under the weather,” even if they don’t have fever or other flu-like symptoms, they should not be allowed to work.

    7. In restaurants and other food establishments, there should be a sink dedicated solely to hand washing.

    8. Use disposable towels/tissues or hand dryers. Avoid used towels. Used paper towels or tissues should be thrown immediately in the garbage bin.

    9. Countertops used for cooking or preparing food should also be dry, since dampness can promote the growth of the virus.

    10. The cooking and dining areas must have good ventilation. In air-conditioned rooms, open windows for at least 30 minutes to an hour daily to improve air quality inside. Draw open the curtains and let the sunshine in.
    IMHO number 5. should be mandatory. For number 10, ventilation should be running all the time. Better to have air purifiers as well. I still think for now, better not to dine in yet. Best just get take out and eat it somewhere safe.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; July 24th, 2020 at 11:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    Dining in covid times tips by a doctor:
    1 pointers for COVID-safe dining | Inquirer Lifestyle



    IMHO number 5. should be mandatory. For number 10, ventilation should be running all the time. Better to have air purifiers as well. I still think for now, better not to dine in yet. Best just get take out and eat it somewhere safe.
    Agree on this one. It's better not to tempt fate.

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