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    #14781
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Was also declared covid free but got sick again and even gotten worst. The machine mentioned helped a British pilot survive covid in Thailand....

    OMG. Sya yung pedia ng anak ko nung anak ko until late 2018 sa Meycauayan Doctors Hospital. Di ko alam na positive pala sya. Sana makarecover sya at gumaling agad. Magaling pa naman syang pedia. Alagang-alaga sya nung nasa NICU pa yung baby ko.

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    It makes me sad to see young patient suffering severe case and we know that 80 to 90 percent are just mild cases and they recover. So could youn patient with severe case have a pre existing condition that they dont know of? aren't doctors doing anything to prevent the mild cases evolve to severe case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    It makes me sad to see young patient suffering severe case and we know that 80 to 90 percent are just mild cases and they recover. So could youn patient with severe case have a pre existing condition that they dont know of? aren't doctors doing anything to prevent the mild cases evolve to severe case?

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    Lungs bro... ive had my fair share of lung problems lol. Antibiotics cough and phlegm meds. Kaya naka invest ako sa air purifiers lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Someone did mention earlier about ice cream, milk tea, etc.... is there a study that covid can go directly to food especially those that doesn't need any cooking or heating? we know that the virus needs moisture for it to bond and survive.

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    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2004973

    Our results indicate that aerosol and fomite transmission of SARS-CoV-2 is plausible, since the virus can remain viable and infectious in aerosols for hours and on surfaces up to days (depending on the inoculum shed).
    I hope this can put the idea that you can't get covid 19 from aerosol, surfaces and food to rest.
    Last edited by Wh1stl3r; July 20th, 2020 at 09:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2004973



    I hope this can put the idea that you can't get covid 19 from aerosol, surfaces and food to rest.
    Tama ba pagkaintindi ko, half life of the virus in aerosol is 1 to 2hrs?
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    #14786
    Baka sa lab settings yan, controlled environment siyempre pag sa real situations na maraming factors na hinde tumagal siguro ng ganyan yun virus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    It makes me sad to see young patient suffering severe case and we know that 80 to 90 percent are just mild cases and they recover. So could youn patient with severe case have a pre existing condition that they dont know of? aren't doctors doing anything to prevent the mild cases evolve to severe case?

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    Asthmatic si doktora as per interview sa kasamahang niyang doctor sa PGH.

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    #14788
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Tama ba pagkaintindi ko, half life of the virus in aerosol is 1 to 2hrs?
    Half life of 1.1 hours daw bro. Still viable after 3 hours. The mechanism used to aerosolize the virus might have yielded an aerosol that differs in form and thus behaves differently vs the natural transmission route (breathing, speaking, coughing, sneezing).

    But personally, I'm not taking chances, given the number of people getting infected with no idea where they got it. "Low risk" to me is a misnomer when you can't predict how mild/severe your illness will be if you catch it.

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    #14789
    indoors with recirculated air / poor ventilation

    that's the worst

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    #14790
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    Is it hard to read the result of pcr? I mean the result is always either negative or positive right it doesn't say that you are negative but you have few fragments of virus residue left....

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    that is a problem.
    the test may identify fragments of the virus, giving out the result as "positive", but these fragments are no longer capable of causing disease.

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    #14791
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Asthmatic si doktora as per interview sa kasamahang niyang doctor sa PGH.
    actually,
    strictly speaking,
    they should not be giving out these information, because the patient has right to privacy.
    OT.

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    #14792
    Quote Originally Posted by Deestone View Post
    It makes me sad to see young patient suffering severe case and we know that 80 to 90 percent are just mild cases and they recover. So could youn patient with severe case have a pre existing condition that they dont know of? aren't doctors doing anything to prevent the mild cases evolve to severe case?

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    wish lang namin.

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    #14793
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that is a problem.
    the test may identify fragments of the virus, giving out the result as "positive", but these fragments are no longer capable of causing disease.
    Doc, pano ba lumalabas ang results sa PCR machine? Positive or negative lang ba? Or parang may graph or other jargons ang nilalabas ng PCR and the lab tech/med tech/doctor needs to read and interpret and translate into english?
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    #14794
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Doc, pano ba lumalabas ang results sa PCR machine? Positive or negative lang ba? Or parang may graph or other jargons ang nilalabas ng PCR and the lab tech/med tech/doctor needs to read and interpret and translate into english?
    i wish i could say more,
    but i cannot.

    it is a sub-sub-specialty in the sub-specialty of the specialty.

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    I was tested twice using this Roche test and it says only reactive or non-reactive, now I wonder how accurate the results compared to other rapidtest method. I think the technique is now using photonics just like comparing wavelength in a chemical analysis of Raman.
    About Elecsys Anti-SARS-CoV-2 serology test
    Elecsys® Anti-SARS-CoV-2 is an immunoassay for the in-vitro qualitative detection of antibodies (including IgG) to Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in human serum and plasma. Through a blood sample, the test, which is based on an in-solution double-antigen sandwich format, can detect antibodies to the new coronavirus causing COVID-19, which could signal whether a person has already been infected and potentially developed immunity to the virus. Based on the measurement of a total of 5272 samples, the Elecsys® Anti-SARS-CoV-2 assay has 99.81% specificity and shows no cross-reactivity to the four human coronaviruses causing common cold. This means it can lower the chance of false positives due to the detection of similar antibodies that may be present in an individual, but are specific for coronaviruses other than SARS-CoV-2. Elecsys® Anti-SARS-CoV-2 detected antibodies with 100% sensitivity in samples taken 14 days after a PCR-confirmed infection. The importance of specificity and sensitivity of a particular test will be dependent on its purpose and disease prevalence within a given population.

    Hospitals and reference laboratories can run the test on Roche’s cobas e analysers, which are widely available around the world. These fully automated systems can provide SARS-CoV-2 test results in approximately 18 minutes for one single test, with a test throughput of up to 300 tests/hour, depending on the analyser.

    Detecting a patient’s immune response to SARS CoV-2 with high specificity

    Elecsys® Anti‑SARS‑CoV‑2 is an immunoassay intended for qualitative detection of antibodies to SARS‑CoV‑2 in human serum and plasma (K2‑EDTA, K3‑EDTA, Li‑heparin). The test is intended for use as an aid in identifying individuals with an adaptive immune response to SARS‑CoV‑2, indicating recent or prior infection.

    The electrochemiluminescence immunoassay “ECLIA” is intended for use on cobas e immunoassay analyzers.

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    Divine Lee tests positive for COVID-19 despite staying home since March

    Aside from the delivery goods and plastic that we spray alcohol on we will now also disinfect the motorcycle delivery man himself.....

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    #14797
    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    I was tested twice using this Roche test and it says only reactive or non-reactive, now I wonder how accurate the results compared to other rapidtest method. I think the technique is now using photonics just like comparing wavelength in a chemical analysis of Raman.
    So it only test for IgG which takes weeks after infection to produce and not IgM?

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    #14798
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    indoors with recirculated air / poor ventilation

    that's the worst
    Kahit naka mask? Eh kung ganyan dapat bawal na muna mga nag officd since offices now are not design to have fresh air circulation, wala nga bintana na pwede buksan eh.


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    HK may soon go on citywide lockdown. Many cluster linked to gathering at RESTAURANTS...


    Hong Kong third wave: authorities weigh lockdown after 73 new Covid-19 cases reported | South China Morning Post

    Three new cases were related to a cluster tied to a large family gathering at Kwai Fong Chiuchow Garden eatery, taking that outbreak’s total number to nine. Fresh infections were also tied to Fulum Restaurant in Tuen Mun Central Square, while the number of people who have contracted the virus after eating at Victoria Harbour Restaurant in Prince Edward has risen to six.

    “[Some] customers who visited the Victoria Harbour Restaurant on different dates last week became infected, leading to the worries over environmental contamination in the restaurant,” Chuang said.
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    #14800
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that is a problem.
    the test may identify fragments of the virus, giving out the result as "positive", but these fragments are no longer capable of causing disease.
    If it is not capable of causing the disease it will not be infectious anymore right? So should be declared as positive but not infectious few fragments left can be release from quarantine.

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China Corona Virus Outbreak