China Corona Virus Outbreak

[Papajamba]

Many are avoiding getting tested... they don't want to be placed in granular lockdown... Since it's mild symptoms, many self medicate at home.

DOH probes recent drop in COVID-19 tests

True!
Mandatory quarantine center in our LGU, pero sa public school at common bathroom![emoji1750]
A family friend who lives in a big house in a private subdivision was not permitted to stay in her house with an isolation room with its own bathroom. She was taken to a quarantine center. Mas mahahawa at mamamatay sya sa kundisyon ng quarantine facility!!! Ang dumi daw!
Kaya takot talaga magpatest mga tao


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[_Cathy_]

True!
Mandatory quarantine center in our LGU, pero sa public school at common bathroom![emoji1750]
A family friend who lives in a big house in a private subdivision was not permitted to stay in her house with an isolation room with its own bathroom. She was taken to a quarantine center. Mas mahahawa at mamamatay sya sa kundisyon ng quarantine facility!!! Ang dumi daw!
Kaya takot talaga magpatest mga tao


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What the heck? Why? Anong city yan? That's my fear din when the LGU called me but I said I want to stay at home at pumayag naman. Also, I think labs are aware that positives get discriminated kasi I was told they will be discreet. Private car ang gamit and when the village guard asks they just say routine check.

Sana meron sila approved hotels pero personally ayoko pa rin umalis bahay, iba pa rin yung alam mo na your family is just outside your room

Kahit sino naman dalhin sa public school for quarantine na COMMON bathroom lalong sasama ang condition

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[Papajamba]

What the heck? Why? Anong city yan? That's my fear din when the LGU called me but I said I want to stay at home at pumayag naman. Also, I think labs are aware that positives get discriminated kasi I was told they will be discreet. Private car ang gamit and when the village guard asks they just say routine check.

Sana meron sila approved hotels pero personally ayoko pa rin umalis bahay, iba pa rin yung alam mo na your family is just outside your room

Kahit sino naman dalhin sa public school for quarantine na COMMON bathroom lalong sasama ang condition

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Shoe Capital[emoji4]
Also mandatory sa Manila ang quarantine facility.


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[shadow]

real peak is determined after the fact.
declaring peak at the time of peak, is asking for trouble.

There's a thing called projection.


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[uls]

well ganito lang yun

kung fake ung decline in number of cases coz people aren't getting tested and recovering at home

di naman matatago lahat yan coz there's always a percentage of cases that will need oxygen and will need help

ambulances will show

[uls]

there's a percentage of cases that will die

let's say normally our case fatality rate is 1%

kung pakonte nang pakonte ang nagpapatest you'll get an unusually high case fatality rate

unless di rin natest ung mga namatay so not counted as covid

[shadow]

*uls so tama projection ng OCTA na we have reached our peak?


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[uls]

shadow ang research ng octa entirely based on gov't numbers

kung mali ang mga numero mali ang octa

kung totoo ung sinasabi bumababa ang cases dahil mas konte ang nagpapatetest, then mali lahat

kaya we need to look at other indicators

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kung totoo pababa na ang cases we should see less new hospitalizations

those already hospitalized will recover and leave the hospital (or die) then wala na masyado bagong pasyente mag o-occupy sa mga freed up beds -- luluwag mga ospital

PERO

kung tuloy tuloy parin meron bagong pasyente (while daily reported new cases keep declining) there may be something wrong with the numbers

we should find out in the coming weeks

[bloowolf]

Remember, testing is not only in the NCR where the new Q protocols are enforced. There are a lot of cases (& rising) in neighboring provinces (where I usually go, region 4A) & I heard hospitals are up to full capacity.


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[Deestone]

If cases is now really declining so vaccine works? or it is just the natural trend of the covid virus it comes and disappear naturally (vice-versa).

[uls]

kaya if the numbers are not telling the true situation then need to look at other indicators

problem is one needs to gather data independently

for example if all ambulance providers (public and private) report to a common database how many trips they're doing in a day meron tayo gauge of the situation

kung ayaw magpatest mga tao maghahanap ng tulong mga di makahinga

they'll show up in data parin if anyone bothers to gather such data

let's say 10% of all cases will need oxygen and you know the number of people who need oxygen, alam mo na ilan ung 90% who don't need oxygen

[bloowolf]

If cases is now really declining so vaccine works? or it is just the natural trend of the covid virus it comes and disappear naturally (vice-versa).

There are a lot who have mild symptoms who opt not to have themselves tested & I would bet majority of them were vaxxed. Covid symptoms are the same symptoms you find in other common non-viral diseases & other viral infections. Coughs (asthma attack, smokers cough, copd), diarrhea (lactose intolerance), colds (allergic rhinitis), body pain (gout). Bet you a lot of people have some of these (me included) but would you have a test done just because? Those who have themselves tested do so because they need to & some are caught but majority don’t. So, I think the vax are really working, which should be put into the equation.


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[Monseratto]

Preliminary research finds that even mild cases of COVID-19 leave a mark on the brain – but it's not yet clear how long it lasts

Strikingly, the brain regions that the U.K. researchers found to be impacted by COVID-19 are all linked to the olfactory bulb, a structure near the front of the brain that passes signals about smells from the nose to other brain regions. The olfactory bulb has connections to regions of the temporal lobe. We often talk about the temporal lobe in the context of aging and Alzheimer’s disease because it is where the hippocampus is located. The hippocampus is likely to play a key role in aging, given its involvement in memory and cognitive processes.

The sense of smell is also important to Alzheimer’s research, as some data has suggested that those at risk for the disease have a reduced sense of smell. While it is far too early to draw any conclusions about the long-term impacts of these COVID-related changes, investigating possible connections between COVID-19-related brain changes and memory is of great interest – particularly given the regions implicated and their importance in memory and Alzheimer’s disease.

[dr. d]

There are a lot who have mild symptoms who opt not to have themselves tested & I would bet majority of them were vaxxed. Covid symptoms are the same symptoms you find in other common non-viral diseases & other viral infections. Coughs (asthma attack, smokers cough, copd), diarrhea (lactose intolerance), colds (allergic rhinitis), body pain (gout). Bet you a lot of people have some of these (me included) but would you have a test done just because?

in this season of covid,
in our workplace,
anyone who comes down with any bahid ng sintoma, que sipon, que lagnat or diary,
are strongly urged by the officemates to have a swab test.
ilan na ang nahuli naming positive pala.

the covid atmosphere today has set a very healthy environment for vaccine research.
cutting-edge technology... instant communication among the experts... millions and millions of willing test subjects...
heh heh.

[Monseratto]

Sinovac's COVID-19 vaccine is highly effective against serious illness, although rival shots from Pfizer/BioNTech and AstraZeneca showed better protection rates, a large real world study from Malaysia showed.

The latest data is a boost to the Chinese firm, whose COVID-19 vaccine has been under growing scrutiny over its effectiveness following reports of infections among healthcare workers fully immunized with the Sinovac shot in Indonesia and Thailand.

The study, conducted by the Malaysian government, found that 0.011% of about 7.2 million recipients of the Sinovac shot required treatment in intensive care units (ICU) for COVID-19 infections, health officials told reporters on Thursday, September 23.

By contrast, 0.002% of about 6.5 million recipients of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine needed ICU treatment for COVID-19 infections, while 0.001% of 744,958 recipients of the AstraZeneca shot required similar treatment.

Sinovac'''s COVID-19 shot highly effective against serious illness – Malaysia study

[uls]

If cases is now really declining so vaccine works? or it is just the natural trend of the covid virus it comes and disappear naturally (vice-versa).

pero vaccinated people test positive parin so vaccine effectiveness doesn't reflect in daily number of cases data

vaccine prevents death so vaccine effectiveness should show up in deaths data

example:




^^

vaccine effectiveness and immunity from natural infection

[dr. d]

pero vaccinated people test positive parin so vaccine effectiveness doesn't reflect in daily number of cases data

vaccine prevents death so vaccine effectiveness should show up in deaths data

example:




^^

vaccine effectiveness and immunity from natural infection

there is also,
the doctors are getting better at treating the covid victims...

[bloowolf]

in this season of covid,
in our workplace,
anyone who comes down with any bahid ng sintoma, que sipon, que lagnat or diary,
are strongly urged by the officemates to have a swab test.
ilan na ang nahuli naming positive pala.

the covid atmosphere today has set a very healthy environment for vaccine research.
cutting-edge technology... instant communication among the experts... millions and millions of willing test subjects...
heh heh.

Workplace requirements differ. Most of the time, people won’t. Buti kami dito sa Las Piñas, Munti & Parañaque, libre tests sa RITM.


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[dr. d]

Workplace requirements differ. Most of the time, people won’t. Buti kami dito sa Las Piñas, Munti & Parañaque, libre tests sa RITM.


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buti pa kayo.

naka-ilang pcr tests na ako sa workplace; fortunately, all were false alarms. knock on wood. heh heh.
"ilista nyo sa running bill ko."
i'll hie over to billing next week, and settle my account.

[H1Tman]

Testing is expensive.

Major hindrance why most people would not get themselves tested.