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    #31161
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Hindi ba kaya ng anti bodies na mag evolve din for specific variant? If virus can, antibodies should too…

    or parang norton antivirus body natin na need ng updates everytime may bagong virus na naman….


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    hehe. yung reference sa norton antivirus is funny and sobering at the same time.

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    #31162
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Hindi ba kaya ng anti bodies na mag evolve din for specific variant? If virus can, antibodies should too…

    or parang norton antivirus body natin na need ng updates everytime may bagong virus na naman….


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    kung na-injectionan ka ng vax containing instructions to make wuhan spike, the antibodies generated will be specific to wuhan spike

    those antibodies don't change

    if you want antibodies that are specific for delta spike, either mahawa ka ng delta o mabakunahan ka ng delta-specific vax (which don't exist yet... maybe meron sa lab pero wala pa mass production)
    Last edited by uls; August 25th, 2021 at 12:05 PM.

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    #31163
    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Di ko alam kung side effect ng bakuna yung nangyari sakin last week, pero parang matinding allergic reaction. Although august 4 pa ako huli nagpaturok. Basta nagpuyat lang ako last tuesday mga 4 hours tulog tapos kinabukasan nagka low fever ako at kumalat na rashes all over my body. May sore throat din. Mga 3 days tumagal di ko na pinacheckup uminom na lang ako isang tablet ng anti histamine tas kinabukasan nawala na. Yung sister ko tsaka mother ko nagkaroon din ng ganito few weeks ago ano kaya ito may virus na kumalat sa bahay namin or allergic reaction sa bakuna
    Ang tagal naman na to be vaccine-related, usually within hours ang effect niyan. Since relatives and same household, likely may nakain lang or may object sa bahay niyo (a plant, a pet, an insect) na na-expose kayo recently.

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    #31164
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Ang tagal naman na to be vaccine-related, usually within hours ang effect niyan. Since relatives and same household, likely may nakain lang or may object sa bahay niyo (a plant, a pet, an insect) na na-expose kayo recently.
    I see. Ano kaya yun parang allergy nga kasi nawala din after ko ng anti histamine intake. 3 na kami nagkaroon sa bahay pero di siya mukhang viral. Next week pa 2nd dose ko eh makikita kung may side effect ba, sana naman wala hahaha

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    #31165
    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    Di ko alam kung side effect ng bakuna yung nangyari sakin last week, pero parang matinding allergic reaction. Although august 4 pa ako huli nagpaturok. Basta nagpuyat lang ako last tuesday mga 4 hours tulog tapos kinabukasan nagka low fever ako at kumalat na rashes all over my body. May sore throat din. Mga 3 days tumagal di ko na pinacheckup uminom na lang ako isang tablet ng anti histamine tas kinabukasan nawala na. Yung sister ko tsaka mother ko nagkaroon din ng ganito few weeks ago ano kaya ito may virus na kumalat sa bahay namin or allergic reaction sa bakuna
    report it, anyway.
    we do not really know if it was vaccine-related or not.

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    #31166
    Philippines orders 10 million more Sinovac jabs | Philstar.com

    The Philippines has ordered 10 million more doses of the COVID-19 vaccine made by Chinese drugmaker Sinovac Biotech, the official in charge of the government’s vaccine procurement program said.

    Galvez said the government has also negotiated with American pharmaceutical giant Pfizer to deliver some 5 million doses in September. Authorities are also in talks with US biotech firm Moderna to deliver three to four million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine.

    He earlier said that the government will focus on procuring more shots made by Pfizer and Moderna, but it will remain open to buying additional doses from Sinovac.
    OO nga, dapat Pfizer or Moderna na yung bulk na bilhin.

    Its either Election time. hehe or is it because Sinovac is the only one consistently delivering vaccine to us every month since April.

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    #31167
    I mentioned it here before. Vax companies always update their vax. There are even vax that contain more than 1 strain & I wouldn’t be surprised if they did this in the future. They even custom make vax to the region where the variants are prevalent (South Africa - Beta variant vax). Maybe they don’t have the time to do this now but definitely, it will be made.


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    J&J Says Covid-19 Booster Shots After Eight Months Supported by Data - WSJ

    Johnson & Johnson said Wednesday that a second dose of its Covid-19 vaccine was found in a study to generate a strong immune response, justifying a booster shot after eight months.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said it expects single-dose J&J vaccine recipients would need boosters but has held off on making recommendations as it awaits more data. Wednesday’s findings are expected to inform the U.S. booster strategy set to begin in September, when the U.S. plans to begin offering boosters to people who received messenger-RNA vaccines. Later it is likely to expand the program to include J&J’s viral-vector vaccine.
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    #31169
    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    I mentioned it here before. Vax companies always update their vax. There are even vax that contain more than 1 strain & I wouldn’t be surprised if they did this in the future. They even custom make vax to the region where the variants are prevalent (South Africa - Beta variant vax). Maybe they don’t have the time to do this now but definitely, it will be made.


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    the flue vaccine.
    the composition can vary from year to year, depending on what the predicted "flavor of the year" strains, are.

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    In times like these, when media overhyped the covid19…




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    i know they will make variant specific vaccines

    my concern now is the boosters being used now are still wuhan-variant based vaccines

    baka may risk ng antibody dependent enhancement coz medyo iba na ung virus na nilalaban

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    #31173
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post


    but but... the country in number 1 position...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bloowolf View Post
    To answer our question whether Vax companies will tweak their vax, yes.

    Galvez: Moderna, AstraZeneca no longer taking first-gen orders | GMA News Online


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    Ginawa talagang business style ng MS Windows version

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    #31175
    Quote Originally Posted by ratboy View Post
    I see. Ano kaya yun parang allergy nga kasi nawala din after ko ng anti histamine intake. 3 na kami nagkaroon sa bahay pero di siya mukhang viral. Next week pa 2nd dose ko eh makikita kung may side effect ba, sana naman wala hahaha

    Type mo sa Google ang name ng Vaccine mo and then add "rashes"

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    #31176
    So the family of our ninang in our wedding had covid, & the husband just passed away. They were supposed to get vaccine shots but declined because it was Sinovac. They were able to get Moderna at a later date, & just had one shot pa lang. I wonder if the husband would still be alive had they chosen to push thru with Sinovac in the first place.

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    #31177
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    So the family of our ninang in our wedding had covid, & the husband just passed away. They were supposed to get vaccine shots but declined because it was Sinovac. They were able to get Moderna at a later date, & just had one shot pa lang. I wonder if the husband would still be alive had they chosen to push thru with Sinovac in the first place.
    well,
    initial studies put sinovac's effectivity at at least 50%...
    so yes. i think he would have benefited from the vax.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 25th, 2021 at 09:52 PM.

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    #31178
    Coronavirus: Llama antibodies could help fight COVID variants, new lab trial shows

    Coronavirus: Llama antibodies could help fight COVID variants, new lab trial shows | Newshub



    Saved by God's intervention? At least this could be the answer to the Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) problem.

    The Future Covid Variants could finally be solved if this is a success...

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    #31179
    A year ago pa pala yang llama binalita sa cnn… may 12, 2020…

    Scientists discover llama antibodies could be key to a coronavirus treatment - YouTube


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    #31180
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well,
    initial studies put sinovac's effectivity at at least 50%...
    so yes. i think he would have benefited from the vax.
    Versus just the first dose of Moderna...

    The Moderna COVID-19 (mRNA-1273) vaccine: what you need to know (WHO)

    How efficacious is the vaccine?

    The Moderna vaccine has been shown to have an efficacy of approximately 94.1 per cent in protecting against COVID-19, starting 14 days after the first dose.

China Corona Virus Outbreak