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    #27641
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Daming butas yung article...



    Same with Sinovac...
    The problem is the low-efficacy vaccines aren't preventing transmission. Kumbaga personal protection lang.

    Unlike the countries that used Pfizer, cases are down even among the unvaccinated kahit nag re-open na sila. Someone posted a guy doing a walk-around in Israel a few pages back and they're mostly back to normal na even with a percentage of the population opting not to vaccinate themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Siguro ako I'll only feel somewhat safe eating out when nabakunahan na majority ng A4s so it's probably gonna be next year the earliest. Kasama sa A4 mga workers ng restaurants diba? I hope gawin mandatory ang vaccines sa mga workers in F&B industry, I don't know kung pwede din na ihiwalay mga diners na hinde pa vaccinated like ilagay sila sa smoking area convert for unvaccinated diners.

    I know hinde nakukuha sa food yun virus but diners will have to remove mask while eating.


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    I will only dine out when everyone at home is vaccinated with pfizer or moderna because we are not contagious anymore. My biggest fear e mahawaan ko mga seniors dito. Kasi kung majority sinovac tapos sinovac din lahat sa bahay, pwede pa rin makahawa at mahawa

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    #27644
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I will only dine out when everyone at home is vaccinated with pfizer or moderna because we are not contagious anymore. My biggest fear e mahawaan ko mga seniors dito. Kasi kung majority sinovac tapos sinovac din lahat sa bahay, pwede pa rin makahawa at mahawa

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    aren't you afraid that the other diners beside you might be un-vaccinated and might be harboring the infection?

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    hanggang ngayon sinovac lang dumadating na real orders (not covax)

    (sputink din pala real order)

    sa covax lang tayo nakakakuha ng astra and pfizer

    delayed pa ung astra na inorder ni Joey Concepcion

    wala pa ung inorder ng LGUs

    wala pa ung moderna ni ICTSI

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    The return of the lab-leak theory | Inquirer Opinion

    The return of the lab-leak theory

    WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus himself noted: “I do not believe this investigation is extensive enough.” This view found echoes in a recent letter sent to the journal Science by 18 scientists, including prominent names in virology. Without advancing any theory, these experts sought the reopening of the WHO investigation. Bewailing the cavalier dismissal of the lab-leak theory, they wrote that “theories of accidental release from a lab and zoonotic spillover both remain viable.”

    Some of the signatories were scientists who continued to believe that the novel coronavirus naturally evolved from wildlife, and who thought that retrofitting a virus strain in the lab to become the highly transmissible and deadly SARS-CoV-2 would have been an exceptional achievement in genetic re-engineering. But they were unified in the consensus that the WHO investigation should have included a comprehensive evaluation of biosafety measures at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    As rare as they may be, laboratory accidents do happen. Lab technicians may be exposed to all kinds of pathogens in the course of their work. Worse, they can unsuspectingly pass on the infection to the larger population. These concerns are real enough to generate an ethical conundrum that prompted the Obama administration in 2014 to suspend federal funding for cutting edge “gain-of-function” studies. The suspension was lifted during the Trump presidency.

    One of the active voices in that debate was that of Prof. Marc Lipsitch of the Harvard TH Chan School of Public Health. In an online article titled “Why Do Exceptionally Dangerous Gain-of-Function Experiments in Influenza?” published shortly before the COVID-19 pandemic, Lipsitch made a forceful case against research that involved the manipulation of viruses to create what he calls “potential pandemic pathogens” (PPPs). Such experiments, he argued, “are nearly unique in that they present biosafety risks that extend well beyond the experimenter or laboratory performing them; an accidental release could … lead to global spread of a virulent virus, a biosafety incident on a scale never before seen.”

    Lipsitch disputes the value of these studies to basic science and public health, arguing that there are safer alternative ways of answering the questions they pose. Whatever residual benefits they may have, he writes, are outweighed by the risks they present to humankind. In gain-of-function experiments, a starting virus strain, e.g. of influenza H5N1, is modified through targeted mutations, or coinfection, or spontaneous mutation. The idea is to induce the formation of phenotypes or characteristicsʍlike higher transmissibilityʍwhen the modified pathogen is transferred to recipient animals. Such studies are supposed to help public health authorities anticipate the evolution of deadlier viruses in nature, and guide the development of vaccines and therapeutics.

    The wisdom of such scientific projects has been repeatedly questioned not only for the risks posed by lab leaks, but also in view of their potential replicability by bioterrorists who may gain easy access to published results. This debate will no doubt haunt the scientific community for a long time. But, it’s almost certain that, one of these days, a team of legitimate scientists will come forward to make the shocking claim that they have evidence to prove the pathogen behind COVID-19 was created in a laboratory. I dare not think what happens next if their findings gain traction.



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    First in Israel... Now in the USA.

    Heart reaction probed as possible rare vaccine link in teens | Taiwan News | 221-6-5 2:3:14

    An article on seven U.S. teen boys in several states, published online Friday in Pediatrics, is among the latest reports of heart inflammation discovered after COVID-19 vaccination, though a link to the vaccine has not been proven.

    The boys, aged 14 to 19, received Pfizer shots in April or May and developed chest pain within a few days. Heart imaging tests showed a type of heart muscle inflammation called myocarditis.

    None were critically ill. All were healthy enough to be sent home after two to six days in the hospital and are doing “doing pretty well,” said Dr. Preeti Jaggi, an Emory University infectious disease specialist who co-authored the report.

    She said more follow-up is needed to determine how the seven fare but that it’s likely the heart changes were temporary.

    Only one of the seven boys in the Pediatrics report had evidence of a possible previous COVID-19 infection and doctors determined none of them had a rare inflammatory condition linked with the coronavirus.

    The cases echo reports from Israel in young men diagnosed after receiving Pfizer shots.

    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention alerted doctors last month that it was monitoring a small number of reports of heart inflammation in teens and young adults after the mRNA vaccines, the kind made by Pfizer and Moderna.

    The CDC hasn’t determined if there’s really a link to the shots, and continues to urge that everyone 12 and older get vaccinated against COVID-19, which is far riskier than the vaccine. The Pfizer vaccine is available to those as young as 12; the Moderna shot remains cleared only for adult use.

    This kind of heart inflammation can be caused by a variety of infections, including a bout of COVID-19, as well as certain medications — and there have been rare reports following other types of vaccinations.

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    #27648
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post


    Yup, it is the SPIKE PROTEINS in the covid vaccines that is causing the heart inflammation and the brain clots too.

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    #27649
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Yup, it is the SPIKE PROTEINS in the covid vaccines that is causing the heart inflammation and the brain clots too.
    Is it? Why?


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    7 turista huli sa paggamit umano ng pekeng RT-PCR test results sa Boracay | ABS-CBN News

    This is one of the reason why our numbers don't go down as much as we want.

    Dami pa rin tao pasaway.

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    #27651
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    7 turista huli sa paggamit umano ng pekeng RT-PCR test results sa Boracay | ABS-CBN News

    This is one of the reason why our numbers don't go down as much as we want.

    Dami pa rin tao pasaway.
    Gawin automatic 1 year kulong pag nahuli nag fake ng test.


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    #27652
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Gawin automatic 1 year kulong pag nahuli nag fake ng test.


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    Agree on this one. Summary proceedings lang kasi minor offense. Para isang araw pwede na. Hindi mahamper masyado judiciary.

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    #27653
    kaya hindi bumaba casew sa boracay, 10+ new cases everyday is big for a small island.

    today lang they have 18.

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    #27654
    Quote Originally Posted by dhisky View Post
    kaya hindi bumaba casew sa boracay, 10+ new cases everyday is big for a small island.

    today lang they have 18.
    well,
    it's not a closed system. it's a very open system!
    lotsa ins and outs due to tourism.

    do they not have required-on-arrival testing?
    maybe they should.
    it double-checks the guests' hand-carried pcr test certificates.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 7th, 2021 at 09:34 AM.

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    #27655
    BREAKDOWN of 7,228 cases:

    1. Top regions
    R4A= 1046
    NCR= 957
    R6= 768
    R3= 757

    2. Top areas
    Cavite= 355
    Laguna= 255
    Bacolod City= 216
    Davao City= 198
    Bulacan= 195
    Isabela= 193
    Cagayan= 187
    Batangas= 183
    QC= 171
    N. Oriental= 168
    N. Ecija= 155
    N. Occidental= 152

    *EdsonCGuido

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    #27656
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    BREAKDOWN of 7,228 cases:

    1. Top regions
    R4A= 1046
    NCR= 957
    R6= 768
    R3= 757

    2. Top areas
    Cavite= 355
    Laguna= 255
    Bacolod City= 216
    Davao City= 198
    Bulacan= 195
    Isabela= 193
    Cagayan= 187
    Batangas= 183
    QC= 171
    N. Oriental= 168
    N. Ecija= 155
    N. Occidental= 152

    *EdsonCGuido
    They've concentrated the vaccines to NCR and this is the result. Kahit tightly packed ang NCR eh mababa na cases nila. Ngayon labas naman ng NCR ang may surge. Sana ma habol pa ng vaccine.


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    #27657
    the vaccine will work into reducing the incidence of new infections.
    but it has to be administered in substantial numbers.

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    #27658
    Gov’t mulls relaxing some restrictions for those vaccinated vs COVID-19 | Inquirer News


    Nakakabwisit talaga! Mag concentrate na muna sila pabilisin yun roll out then pag at least 30%-40% na ng population saka na sila magisip ng leeway sa mga vaccinated.

    Laging gaya-gaya eh israel nag-open when madami na nabakunahan not when they're just starting yun roll out ng vaccination nila.

    Saka unahin na paano ma verify kung original yun vaccination card. Ang bilis bilis gayahin nun mga vacc card eh di naglokohan lang tayo ang daming gagawa ng fake na vacc card para makalabas.

    Kung PCR test pinepeke eh vacc card pa kaya.

    How can anybody feel safe now when chances are 1 out of 10 people around you sa labas eh lang ang vaccinated.

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    Last edited by shadow; June 7th, 2021 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    How can anybody feel safe now when chances are 1 out of 10 people around you sa labas eh lang ang vaccinated.

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    Correction: 1 out of 100 lang ang vaccinated with 2 doses.
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    #27660

China Corona Virus Outbreak