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    #21601
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Pero marami nang nauna sa atin gumamit ng sinovac and sinopharm. So baka lahat yan is part of their 3rd phase trials?
    Pwede, kaya donations ginagawa nila.


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    #21602
    in order to beat this virus you have to vaccinate the whole world fast

    coz you wanna vaccinate faster than the virus can evolve

    race against time nga sabi ko

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    #21603
    Bakit hindi magawa ng Pilipinas ang ginagawa ng Cuba dito laban sa CHINA WUHAN VIRUS: Meet Cuba's Covid-19 vaccines Soberana, Abdala and Mambisa - CNN

    And this is a plus for the Cuban initiative:

    "Dr. Jose Moya, a Peruvian health expert based in Havana for the World Health Organization and Pan American Health Organization, said he was encouraged that Cuban vaccine researchers were complying with international protocols and providing updates on their progress."

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    #21604
    Pilipinas = virgin coconut oil

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    #21605
    diba nag apply ang CoronaVac ng Phase III trials dito sa Pinas last year?

    alam ko kahit yung AstraZeneca was supposed to conduct phase III trials dito pero nag withdraw.
    Even Gamelaya/Sputnik V vaccine also withdrew Phase III trials.

    Can't find the reason in the news why they pulled out of Stage III trials here.

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    #21606
    Hmmm... now im thiking na yung binulong kay du30 from china embassy is yung efficacy ng sinovac sa mga mutations... ayaw masabi ni du30 baka kasi magkamali nanaman siya... wild guess lang!


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    #21607
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Hmmm... now im thiking na yung binulong kay du30 from china embassy is yung efficacy ng sinovac sa mga mutations... ayaw masabi ni du30 baka kasi magkamali nanaman siya... wild guess lang!


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    Baka binulong bai na ung commission ni digong ipapadala na sa BPI.

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    #21608
    Maganda mga vaccines galing China ay for donation lahat. Utang nila ito globally. Kung maaga nila na manage at hindi nag cover-up ng 2019, baka naagapan pa ito bago kumalat.

    Kinasuhan pa ang unang doktor na nag warning. Kung puwede lang pati economic loss ay i singil sa kanila.

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    #21609
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Baka binulong bai na ung commission ni digong ipapadala na sa BPI.
    Binulong kay doodootirti ng amba ng bansang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ay: "ser, tapos na ang mansyon mo sa Beijing. Dalawin mo. Gawa ka lang ng dahila kung bakit ka pupunta doon. Teka, sabihin mo bibisita ka kay Bossing Xi"

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    #21610
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Baka binulong bai na ung commission ni digong ipapadala na sa BPI.
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    Binulong kay doodootirti ng amba ng bansang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS ay: "ser, tapos na ang mansyon mo sa Beijing. Dalawin mo. Gawa ka lang ng dahila kung bakit ka pupunta doon. Teka, sabihin mo bibisita ka kay Bossing Xi"
    Hahaha!!! Sabi siguro, donation namin palit sa west philippine sea... [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

    Ai ewan ko sa inyo... hahaha


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    #21611
    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Baka binulong bai na ung commission ni digong ipapadala na sa BPI.
    sa BDO

    Quote Originally Posted by bxr monkey View Post
    Maganda mga vaccines galing China ay for donation lahat. Utang nila ito globally. Kung maaga nila na manage at hindi nag cover-up ng 2019, baka naagapan pa ito bago kumalat.

    Kinasuhan pa ang unang doktor na nag warning. Kung puwede lang pati economic loss ay i singil sa kanila.
    +1000

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    #21612
    What an awful leader. This disgusting POS president slash med rep in chief should be among the first to take the vaccine. What example is he setting to the Filipinos? Dalpal siya ng daldal dati na he will take it, as usual biglang bawi



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    #21613
    para sa mga nerd tulad ko (kung meron nerd dito...)

    UK variant:


    South Africa variant:


    Brazil variant:



    it's said that the N501Y mutation makes the virus better at binding to our cell receptors

    and it's said that the E484K mutation makes the virus less recognizable / unrecognizable to antibodies (if you had covid before)... also antibodies generated by gen1 vaccines like astrazeneca

    virus with both mutations (South Africa and Brazil) are more problematic than UK variant

    that's not to say UK variant isn't problematic

    it spread really fast and is now in more than 100 countries

    the other 2 variants will also go global

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    #21614
    eto nakakapagtaka

    last month may nadetect sa Cebu mga cases na may N501Y and E484K mutations

    pero there was no panic from the public

    kasi karamihan ng tao hindi nerd

    people don't know what N501Y and E484K are

    what's scary to people are the words "UK variant", "Brazil variant", "South Africa variant" HAHA

    as long as you don't use those terms it slips past people's attention HAHAHA

    2 unknown mutations of SARS-CoV-2 found in Cebu | Cebu Daily News

    Cebu CEBU CITY, Philippines – Scientists in the country have discovered the presence of at least two mutations of SARS-CoV-2, which could explain the continued increase of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) cases in Cebu.

    Dr. Mary Jean Loreche, spokesperson of Department of Health in Central Visayas (DOH-7), announced on Thursday, February 18, 2021, that they recently found ‘variants of concern’ from COVID-19 patients subjected by their bio-surveillance.

    “These two new mutations are now what we call ‘variants under investigation’,” said Loreche in a mix of English and Cebuano.

    DOH-7 tagged these mutations as E484K and N501Y.

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    #21615
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    para sa mga nerd tulad ko (kung meron nerd dito...)

    UK variant:


    South Africa variant:


    Brazil variant:



    it's said that the N501Y mutation makes the virus better at binding to our cell receptors

    and it's said that the E484K mutation makes the virus less recognizable / unrecognizable to antibodies (if you had covid before)... also antibodies generated by gen1 vaccines like astrazeneca

    virus with both mutations (South Africa and Brazil) are more problematic than UK variant

    that's not to say UK variant isn't problematic

    it spread really fast and is now in more than 100 countries

    the other 2 variants will also go global
    World Health Organization country representative Rabindra Abeyasinghe said the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine remains effective even in areas with cases of South African virus.

    Philippine Star - World Health Organization country... | Facebook

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    #21616
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    World Health Organization country representative Rabindra Abeyasinghe said the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine remains effective even in areas with cases of South African virus.

    Philippine Star - World Health Organization country... | Facebook

    tama naman yun para magpabakuna parin mga tao

    mas mabuti yun kesa hindi magpabakuna diba?

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    #21617
    Sa mga takot na mapapunta sa impiyerno... bawal ang J&J vaccine sa inyo.


    Unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine was produced in part through the use of cell lines derived from an aborted human fetus. In a statement released this week, leaders of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said that this feature of the vaccine raises questions about its permissibility.

    "If one has the ability to choose a vaccine, Pfizer or Moderna's vaccines should be chosen over Johnson & Johnson's," say Archbishop Joseph F. Naumann of Kansas City, Kan., and Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Fort Wayne-South Bend, Ind. Naumann chairs the USCCB's Committee on Pro-Life Activities, and Rhoades chairs the USCCB's Committee on Doctrine.

    The Johnson & Johnson vaccine was developed with the use of PER.C6, a fetal cell line that originated in an 18-week-old fetus aborted in 1985. According to a June 2020 article in Science, human fetal cells can be used as "miniature 'factories' to generate vast quantities of adenoviruses ... that are used as vehicles to ferry genes from the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19."

    The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines also make use of human fetal cells, but only during testing of the vaccines' efficacy, a fact that makes them acceptable, according to a lengthy statement from the U.S. bishops issued in December.

    Bishops Say Johnson & Johnson Shot Should Be Avoided If Alternatives Available : NPR

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    #21618

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    #21619
    kaya mga HCW wag na hintay pfizer

    sinovac, astra take niyo na

    dahil sigurado dadami uli mga ma-o-ospital

    naalala niyo around same time last year?

    baka ganyan mangyari

    #VOC

    #variantofconcern

    #VUI

    #variantunderinvestigation

    #n501y

    #nelly

    #e484k

    #eek

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    #21620
    even the 2 vaccines with highest efficacy have reduced efficacy against the mutants


China Corona Virus Outbreak