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    #21161
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Calculated na nila yan. Wala naman pake masa kung smuggled or hindi.

    Sobrang galing nga nitong gobyerno na to, kahit anong pagbabalasubas ginagawa nila sa bansa, super love pa rin sila ng supporters nila.

    Naiintindihan ko yung mga yumaman (i.e. new age cronies), pero may mga lalong naghirap bec of poor govt handling of the pandemic and crappy policies yet todo support pa rin. Parang kung ganyan sila katanga eh wala na tayong magagawa diyan. May hangganan ang awa.


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    Yan ang mga taong nakakaawang patayin pero nakakahiya naman.buhayin.


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    #21162
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hehe

    kung ikaw china di ka ba mainis?

    puro batikos

    kung ayaw di huwag diba?

    ung para sa pinas bigay mo nalang sa africa
    Hahaha! Ipapa donate na lang ng pinas ang chinese vaccine sa ibang bansa kaysa masayang...

    Pero Payag naman ang pinas kahit anong vaccine basta 95% ang efficacy... [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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    #21163
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Hahaha! Ipapa donate na lang ng pinas ang chinese vaccine sa ibang bansa kaysa masayang...

    Pero Payag naman ang pinas kahit anong vaccine basta 95% ang efficacy... [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]


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    baket ibibigay pa sa pinas tapos pinas mag donate?

    huwag na bigyan ang pinas derecho na sa bansang mas nangangailangan

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    #21164
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    baket ibibigay pa sa pinas tapos pinas mag donate?

    huwag na bigyan ang pinas derecho na sa bansang mas nangangailangan
    Just wanted to share the below info. havent take any seasonal flu vaccines though but their effectiveness seems so low as per cdc compared to what chinese vac...

    If covid-19 vac would limit you to have mild/severe symptons for me it’s more than enough...



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    #21165
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    Just wanted to share the below info. havent take any seasonal flu vaccines though but their effectiveness seems so low as per cdc compared to what chinese vac...

    If covid-19 vac would limit you to have mild/severe symptons for me it’s more than enough...



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    ang flu vaccine kasi hit or miss yan

    every year scientists try to predict which flu strain will dominate the coming flu season and make vaccine for that

    there are years they get it wrong

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    #21166
    artemuch ng peeenoise.

    dito sa sinovac wala naman balita natigok eh ginagawang big deal na first vaccine gagamtiin. Eh sila pa nga transparent kasi the only vaccine na may clinical trial sa healthcareworkers.

    ito pa, may nakachat ako nurse sa dubai. Tinurokan sya sinovac ok naman daw sya. Wala side effect. Pag kausap ko ofw naiinis sa ugali noypisss sa pinas. Mga wala daw alam puro daw reklamo ang aarte hahahahaha.

    Dengoyvaxia nga wala nga umaamin dito naturukan. Pero dami nagtatangol. Asan ang bahyag????/

    Tingnan nyo kasi ingredients. Kung ako nga masusunod dapat ipublic ano sangkap ng vaccine kasi yan ang ayaw ko masyado confidential puro upper echelons lang nakakaalam. Eh paano ako fumafollow sa naturalist, functional medicine.

    By the way iba pa yung sinopharm na tinurok sa presidential secruity group. Both are inactivated veeerus.

    Kayo dito tsikot ang tinitingnan nyo kung ano country gawa hinid na kayo bumubusisi sa laman. Nagsisino kayo kaya minamalas. Iwan talaga kayo sa akin na buhay normal na month of mayo pa of last year. Though nadelay lang dine-in ko kasi maaga closing. Perro nung kumain ako last sunday eh nagpakasaya ako puro tawanan pa sa bilyaran. (may mga chicks pa sumusulyap)

    So dito na lang kayo abangers sa vaccine hahahahah..

    how to stengthen my immune system is to "worship the sun" and wag ako magpuyat makipagflirt. Dito talaga ako nadadale pag nakikipagflirt kasi iba talaga tulog pag madilim pa. May nameet na kaya ako this year pero usap-usap lang

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    #21167
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    artemuch ng peeenoise.

    dito sa sinovac wala naman balita natigok eh ginagawang big deal na first vaccine gagamtiin. Eh sila pa nga transparent kasi the only vaccine na may clinical trial sa healthcareworkers.

    ito pa, may nakachat ako nurse sa dubai. Tinurokan sya sinovac ok naman daw sya. Wala side effect. Pag kausap ko ofw naiinis sa ugali noypisss sa pinas. Mga wala daw alam puro daw reklamo ang aarte hahahahaha.

    Dengoyvaxia nga wala nga umaamin dito naturukan. Pero dami nagtatangol. Asan ang bahyag????/

    Tingnan nyo kasi ingredients. Kung ako nga masusunod dapat ipublic ano sangkap ng vaccine kasi yan ang ayaw ko masyado confidential puro upper echelons lang nakakaalam. Eh paano ako fumafollow sa naturalist, functional medicine.

    By the way iba pa yung sinopharm na tinurok sa presidential secruity group. Both are inactivated veeerus.

    Kayo dito tsikot ang tinitingnan nyo kung ano country gawa hinid na kayo bumubusisi sa laman. Nagsisino kayo kaya minamalas. Iwan talaga kayo sa akin na buhay normal na month of mayo pa of last year. Though nadelay lang dine-in ko kasi maaga closing. Perro nung kumain ako last sunday eh nagpakasaya ako puro tawanan pa sa bilyaran. (may mga chicks pa sumusulyap)

    So dito na lang kayo abangers sa vaccine hahahahah..

    how to stengthen my immune system is to "worship the sun" and wag ako magpuyat makipagflirt. Dito talaga ako nadadale pag nakikipagflirt kasi iba talaga tulog pag madilim pa. May nameet na kaya ako this year pero usap-usap lang
    Kags, kaya siguro malakas immune system mo lately dahil siguro sa Abstinence? Kasi anjan pa yung lakas hindi pa na lalabas....


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    #21168
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang flu vaccine kasi hit or miss yan

    every year scientists try to predict which flu strain will dominate the coming flu season and make vaccine for that

    there are years they get it wrong
    I get it... pero meron pa rin mga tao sa pinas na nagpapa flu vac kahit hit or miss... pero ito mismong specific vac for specific virus na approved sa who, na ibibigay na nga, ang iingay pa...


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    #21169
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    I get it... pero meron pa rin mga tao sa pinas na nagpapa flu vac kahit hit or miss... pero ito mismong specific vac for specific virus na approved sa who, na ibibigay na nga, ang iingay pa...


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    i have flu vaccine.
    i can afford the flu vaccine.
    and if it protects me even just once for that year,
    ok na sa akin yan.

    now,
    if people think similarly in that way for the covid vaccine...

    at face value, 95% efficiency is certainly better than only 50% efficiency.
    but let us not forget that 50% efficiency is 'way better than 0 efficiency, i.e., no vaccine..

    from what i understand, the FDA secretary explained their statement of not recommending the 50% efficiency vaccine to frontliners,
    "it's not a law. it's a recommendation. frontliners may opt for it should they wish to."
    Last edited by dr. d; February 25th, 2021 at 12:06 AM.

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    #21170
    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    I get it... pero meron pa rin mga tao sa pinas na nagpapa flu vac kahit hit or miss... pero ito mismong specific vac for specific virus na approved sa who, na ibibigay na nga, ang iingay pa...


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    alam mo kahit na 95% efficacy ang china vaccine di maniniwala mga tao 95% yan kasi china

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    #21171
    Real world data update from Israel on its fight against the CHINA WUHAN VIRUS: In boost for COVID-19 battle, Pfizer vaccine found 94% effective in real world | Inquirer News

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    #21172
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    alam mo kahit na 95% efficacy ang china vaccine di maniniwala mga tao 95% yan kasi china
    Hinde din. Kung independent third party magsabi na 95% efficacy maniniwala ako and so with many pinoys. Pero pag sabi sabi lang nila sa kanila na sinovac nila.


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    #21173
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde din. Kung independent third party magsabi na 95% efficacy maniniwala ako and so with many pinoys. Pero pag sabi sabi lang nila sa kanila na sinovac nila.


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    Tumpak!

    In related news: PH must have indemnification deal with Sinovac for COVID-19 vaccine procurement — exec

    Talagang itong BFF na bansang CHINA WUHAN VIRUS.

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    #21174
    there is no argument mRNA vaccines are superior

    this is pfizer vs astrazeneca -- challenged with regular SARSCOV2 and b1351 variant




    walang sinabi ang astrazeneca

    -

    there are reports from Europe (UK not included)...

    stockpiles of Astrazeneca vaccine not being used coz people want Pfizer

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    #21175
    so imagine the demand for pfizer sa developed world palang

    and people here in 3rd world PH expect they'll get pfizer?

    kung wala ung covax there's no chance PH will get pfizer

    and even if there's covax, what's the volume covax can get?

    and di lang tayo beneficiary ng covax

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    #21176
    wala naman argument everybody deserves the best

    pero ang kalaban mo Amerika, Europa, at ibang mayaman na bansa

    anong laban ng pinas sa agawan?

    yan ang kalakaran ng mundo kahit unfair

    money talks

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    kahit astrazeneca di tayo makakuha

    pfizer pa

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    ang tingin pala ng mga european sa astrazeneca vaccine parang tingin natin sa china vaccine

    haha

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    #21177
    Ano ba technology ginamit ng astra?

    Baka mas maganda mangyari ayaw ng Europe astra, kaya sa atin mapunta lahat ng supply.


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    #21178
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ano ba technology ginamit ng astra?

    Baka mas maganda mangyari ayaw ng Europe astra, kaya sa atin mapunta lahat ng supply.


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    Virus ang gamit ni astra

    Chimpanzee adenovirus ang delivery vehicle ni astra for spike gene

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    #21179
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Virus ang gamit ni astra

    Chimpanzee adenovirus ang delivery vehicle ni astra for spike gene
    Ok naman pala eh. Kung ayaw ng Europe sa atin na lang. Cheaper by the dozen. [emoji23]


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    #21180
    example lang





    there are reports 1.2 to 1.4 million doses of astrazeneca vaccine unused in germany

    tapos ang Pinas last year pa nag order wala pa dumadating

    pati ung astrazeneca na manggagaling sa covax wala pa
    Last edited by uls; February 25th, 2021 at 12:30 PM.

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