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    #21081
    Virus outbreak hits Chinese community in Cambodia

    Ang magandang tanong dito ay kung nabakunahan ba ang mga tsaynis expats/community nito nang kanilang sariling CHINA WUHAN VIRUS baksin?

    Dito nga sa atin ugong ugong ang balita na nabukahan na yung mga pogo at ilan mga taga Binondo


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    #21082
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    baka kasi higher viral load ang exposure ng HCWs kaya lower efficacy compared to general population
    So there is a big chance you'll have severe symptoms or die with Sinovac if you are in a hospital enviroment? Pilipinas lang ata may ganun na policy... in aid of BFF.

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    #21083
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ^^^

    baka kasi higher viral load ang exposure ng HCWs kaya lower efficacy compared to general population
    Hinde ba dapat yan talaga ang pinipigilan dapat ng vaccine?

    Kaya siguro ayaw ilabas yun mga data.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    So there is a big chance you'll have severe symptoms or die with Sinovac if you are in a hospital enviroment? Pilipinas lang ata may ganun na policy... in aid of BFF.
    yup

    that's what i think that 50% efficacy among healthcare workers mean

    it protected only half of those vaccinated

    i recall sa isang clinical trial ng Sinovac (Brazil yata di ko sure) they tested it sa healthcare workers

    i think that's where that data came from

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    i was listening to the news kanina... it's amazing many people misunderstand why FDA doesn't recommend sinovac to healthcare workers

    people interpreted it as di safe ung vaccine kaya di pwede sa HCWs

    di yun eh

    it's not effective enough

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    talo talaga ang inactivated virus sa mRNA

    sobra concentrated sa spike ang mRNA -- all the antibodies produced are specific to the spike

    inactivated virus the immune system sees the whole virus so antibodies generated are varied... many aren't very useful

    parang convalescent plasma madami iba't ibang antibodies... only some of the antibodies have neutralizing effect

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    #21085
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Hinde ba dapat yan talaga ang pinipigilan dapat ng vaccine?

    Kaya siguro ayaw ilabas yun mga data.


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    yes the vaccine is supposed to prevent severe illness and death

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    #21086
    Bong Go este the president has spoken

    Duterte says no MGCQ until vaccines are rolled out — Go

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    #21087
    Baka effective lang ang Sinovac sa mga Chinese.

    Its good that we are still in GCQ, no shift yet to MGCQ. some places in metro manila seeing a rise in cases.
    Pero kung hinhintayin natin mag roll out yung vaccine baka next year na tayo mag shift sa MGCQ.

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    #21088
    I'm expecting na pipila na mga cabinet secretaries na mauna magpabakuna ng sinovac.


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    #21089
    First Israel, now the UK: UK study finds one dose of Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine reduces risk of infection by 72% - CNN

    Trend also looks good for the US: US COVID-19 deaths fall for third week as cases see steep drop | Inquirer News

    Kailangan pa natin ng maraming magandang balita laban sa salot na CHINA WUHAN VIRUS na ito.
    Last edited by 111prez; February 23rd, 2021 at 09:45 AM.

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    #21090
    Lahat ng DDS saka govt officials mauna na pabakuna ng sinovac.


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    #21091
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    yup

    that's what i think that 50% efficacy among healthcare workers mean

    it protected only half of those vaccinated

    i recall sa isang clinical trial ng Sinovac (Brazil yata di ko sure) they tested it sa healthcare workers

    i think that's where that data came from

    -

    i was listening to the news kanina... it's amazing many people misunderstand why FDA doesn't recommend sinovac to healthcare workers

    people interpreted it as di safe ung vaccine kaya di pwede sa HCWs

    di yun eh

    it's not effective enough

    -

    talo talaga ang inactivated virus sa mRNA

    sobra concentrated sa spike ang mRNA -- all the antibodies produced are specific to the spike

    inactivated virus the immune system sees the whole virus so antibodies generated are varied... many aren't very useful

    parang convalescent plasma madami iba't ibang antibodies... only some of the antibodies have neutralizing effect

    Can't blame the people. only 50% effectiveness when there are options with higher effectiveness.

    Not recommending it for health workers implies that it doesnt protect people from the virus.

    Tapos du30 prefers Sinopharm over Sinovac.

    WTF talaga gobyernong ito.

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    #21092
    More from Israel against this CHINA WUHAN VIRUS: Pfizer-BioNTech shot stops covid-19 spread, Israeli study shows

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    #21093
    ^
    So 1 shot of Pfizer (which can now be stored at same temps at Moderna) offers better protection vs 2 shots of kickvac? Neat.

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    #21094
    I read it somewhere na if you have covid-19 you can’t be vaccinated? If true, is it only to those who have severe/mild symptoms?

    Because what if you are asymptomatic...


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    #21096
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    Basta makapag kontra lang sa government etong si Lechon.

    Sa tingin ko if the DOH would have otherwise advised medical frontliners to take Sinovac, sigurado ang sasabihin naman nya is why give an inferior vaccine to our medical personnel.
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    #21097
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    c4226584-52bd-4c23-bf49-08cf9c00fc12.jpg

    Basta makapag kontra lang sa government etong si Lechon.

    Sa tingin ko if the DOH would have otherwise advised medical frontliners to take Sinovac, sigurado ang sasabihin naman nya is why give an inferior vaccine to our medical personnel.
    yes gag* yan

    puro siya batikos sinovac

    tapos ngayon....


    wtf

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    #21098
    hina utak ng mga tao --> dahil hindi recommended sa HCWs ibig sabihin di safe

    kaya di recommended nga kasi mababa efficacy sa HCWs coz they're exposed to more virus than the average person

    kung lagi nasa bahay ka lang... lalabas minsan para mag grocery... mas mababa chance mo ma-expose sa virus kesa sa isang doctor o nurse na inuubuhan ng mga covid patients

    need ba high IQ para magets yun?

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    #21099
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hina utak ng mga tao --> dahil hindi recommended sa HCWs ibig sabihin di safe

    kaya di recommended nga kasi mababa efficacy sa HCWs coz they're exposed to more virus than the average person

    kung lagi nasa bahay ka lang... lalabas minsan para mag grocery... mas mababa chance mo ma-expose sa virus kesa sa isang doctor o nurse na inuubuhan ng mga covid patients

    need ba high IQ para magets yun?
    The point is magpapabakuna ka na rin lang eh di doon sa 90+% na. Eh bakit ka pa sa mas inferior kung meron din naman mas maganda.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    hina utak ng mga tao --> dahil hindi recommended sa HCWs ibig sabihin di safe

    kaya di recommended nga kasi mababa efficacy sa HCWs coz they're exposed to more virus than the average person

    kung lagi nasa bahay ka lang... lalabas minsan para mag grocery... mas mababa chance mo ma-expose sa virus kesa sa isang doctor o nurse na inuubuhan ng mga covid patients

    need ba high IQ para magets yun?
    Mataas standard ng mga pinoy... minimum 95% efficacy gusto nila... [emoji51][emoji51][emoji51]


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