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    #2041
    Don’t know if this is accurate, just got it from another viber group.

    Below is a page from the book by Dean Koontz, published in 1981.

    If someone here has this book, can you verify? img_0960.jpg


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    #2042
    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    Don’t know if this is accurate, just got it from another viber group.

    Below is a page from the book by Dean Koontz, published in 1981.

    If someone here has this book, can you verify? img_0960.jpg


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    Tried to searched about it and below link appear from foxnews as well...
    A Dean Koontz book from 1981 predicted coronavirus in bizarre coincidence | Fox News



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    #2043
    Quote Originally Posted by BlancNoir View Post
    They closed it.

    Also they require arrival cards na even for PH passport holders.

    I know kasi last december, open yung e-lanes and no arrival card. Ngayon meron na.

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    Are you referring to OFW lanes? They are still open when i came back on jan 31. Also didn't fill up the arrival card.
    if other ph passport holder elanes, hindi ko napansin kung meron bukas.

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    #2044
    From a well known GMA and Digong apologist...

    Horror | Philstar.com

    Horror
    FIRST PERSON - Alex Magno (The Philippine Star) - February 18, 2020 - 12:00am
    You might have seen that horrifying video circulating on social media.

    Taken apparently on a phone, the video showed Chinese policemen loading their automatic pistols and assault rifles before moving into a neighborhood. Shots are heard. There is screaming. Defenseless people are being shot.

    I watched the video over and over again – aghast. While there was no way to verify what is being shown, there is no way the screams of those about to be shot could be staged. Those screams run a chill up the spine.

    The note accompanying the video says a Christian pastor in Wuhan filmed it. He says the doors of infected homes are welded shut, the families trapped inside left to die a slow death. Corpses, both of those who died of the virus and those summarily executed on suspicion they were infected, are being hauled off by the busload to be disposed. The crematoriums are running around the clock.

    This is an image of hell.

    I devoutly wish this is fake news. But there is no indication it is.

    The number being churned out by Chinese authorities about the progress of this epidemic is difficult to trust. China has a record of downplaying the toll taken by calamities. It is also a society where information is tightly controlled and where everyday life is tightly managed by the state.

    Recently, Xi Jinping sacked local officials en masse in the city of Wuhan and the province of Hubei. Trusted lieutenants of the autocrat replaced those yanked from their posts. Presumably, those now in charge are the most hard-knuckled cadres of the Communist Party. Their mission is to put everything in the epidemic-hit zone under control.

    There is peril in putting Leninists in charge of controlling an epidemic. When the health facilities run short, they are bound to execute the patients. The end justifies the means.

    But if the epidemic continues to run rampant, how many murders will have to be undertaken? The social fabric might not survive the brutality the hard-knuckled response Xi’s men are prepared to deal.

    Beijing imposes the tightest imaginable restrictions on public communications, maintaining what should be a horde of censors to monitor whatever information is being shared. Notwithstanding, things seep out. The Chinese public has learned to play cat-and-mouse with the censors.

    From whatever has seeped out, we know the Chinese public is seething. They feel the epidemic has been mismanaged. They chafe at the limited information about the calamity being released. They are disgusted by how little resources have gone to public health. This is easily the most serious crisis of legitimacy confronting the Xi regime.

    This epidemic is not going away anytime soon. One expert on pandemics even predicts up to two-thirds of all humanity will eventually be infected by this virus running wild.

    We hope he is wrong. But as the epidemic spreads, the global economy will suffer serious setbacks. Already, the epidemic is said to be the factor that will push the whole Eurozone into recession this year.

    Every week that passes, governments everywhere will be pulling in more resources to fight the epidemic. That could eventually include taking away from other social services to boost the medical frontline. Those governments that are not broadly supported could be pushed from power by angry mobs.

    We are at the very early stages of this scourge. Even then, we are forced to think the unthinkable – whether this be summarily executing infected people or social institutions crumbling under the weight of an unimaginable plague.

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    #2045
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post

    I devoutly wish this is fake news. But there is no indication it is.

    .
    there is no indication, whether it is real or un-real.
    it is not difficult to manufacture a scene that fits one's needs.
    eventually, the truth be out.
    and then, there will be claims of "i told you so".
    eh, kahit ano naman ang mangyayari, there will always be an "i told you so".
    Last edited by dr. d; February 18th, 2020 at 09:08 AM.

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    #2046
    nadidismaya ba kayo walang gaano excitement yung covid-19 dito pinas. Konti na lang suot useless face mask. Nagtapon ng pera sa wala.

    Kung gusto nyo bumili meron sa ever roces. MGa bagong tahi. Ang mahal ng price, presyong networker!!!!

    Mainit na eh. Malapit na magsummer.

    mas katakutan nyo walang tubig hahahahaha.

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    #2047
    only an evil person with questionable motives, would wish covid-19 excitement on our shores.

    mask?
    we wear it only because of the dusty construction projects at the workplace.

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    #2048
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumusut_Amige View Post
    Are you referring to OFW lanes? They are still open when i came back on jan 31. Also didn't fill up the arrival card.
    if other ph passport holder elanes, hindi ko napansin kung meron bukas.

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    Nope. They closed it.

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    #2049
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    only an evil person with questionable motives, would wish covid-19 excitement on our shores.

    mask?
    we wear it only because of the dusty construction projects at the workplace.
    I have a feeling si kags ang unang matutulala or matutuwa pag nagka gyera.

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    #2050
    Kags is living a very sad life. Exemption to the rule itong si Kags, ang mga meron lang sad life eh nga vegetarians Ito kumakain ng burgers eh.


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    #2051
    kagalingan is pro-china.
    wuhan coronavirus is chinese (daw!).
    he likes it.

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    #2052
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    only an evil person with questionable motives, would wish covid-19 excitement on our shores.
    That, or somebody who's not playing with a full deck, sir.

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    #2053
    Quote Originally Posted by Flipo View Post
    From a well known GMA and Digong apologist...

    Horror | Philstar.com

    Horror
    FIRST PERSON - Alex Magno (The Philippine Star) - February 18, 2020 - 12:00am
    You might have seen that horrifying video circulating on social media.

    Taken apparently on a phone, the video showed Chinese policemen loading their automatic pistols and assault rifles before moving into a neighborhood. Shots are heard. There is screaming. Defenseless people are being shot.

    I watched the video over and over again – aghast. While there was no way to verify what is being shown, there is no way the screams of those about to be shot could be staged. Those screams run a chill up the spine.

    The note accompanying the video says a Christian pastor in Wuhan filmed it. He says the doors of infected homes are welded shut, the families trapped inside left to die a slow death. Corpses, both of those who died of the virus and those summarily executed on suspicion they were infected, are being hauled off by the busload to be disposed. The crematoriums are running around the clock.

    This is an image of hell.

    I devoutly wish this is fake news. But there is no indication it is.

    The number being churned out by Chinese authorities about the progress of this epidemic is difficult to trust. China has a record of downplaying the toll taken by calamities. It is also a society where information is tightly controlled and where everyday life is tightly managed by the state.

    Recently, Xi Jinping sacked local officials en masse in the city of Wuhan and the province of Hubei. Trusted lieutenants of the autocrat replaced those yanked from their posts. Presumably, those now in charge are the most hard-knuckled cadres of the Communist Party. Their mission is to put everything in the epidemic-hit zone under control.

    There is peril in putting Leninists in charge of controlling an epidemic. When the health facilities run short, they are bound to execute the patients. The end justifies the means.

    But if the epidemic continues to run rampant, how many murders will have to be undertaken? The social fabric might not survive the brutality the hard-knuckled response Xi’s men are prepared to deal.

    Beijing imposes the tightest imaginable restrictions on public communications, maintaining what should be a horde of censors to monitor whatever information is being shared. Notwithstanding, things seep out. The Chinese public has learned to play cat-and-mouse with the censors.

    From whatever has seeped out, we know the Chinese public is seething. They feel the epidemic has been mismanaged. They chafe at the limited information about the calamity being released. They are disgusted by how little resources have gone to public health. This is easily the most serious crisis of legitimacy confronting the Xi regime.

    This epidemic is not going away anytime soon. One expert on pandemics even predicts up to two-thirds of all humanity will eventually be infected by this virus running wild.

    We hope he is wrong. But as the epidemic spreads, the global economy will suffer serious setbacks. Already, the epidemic is said to be the factor that will push the whole Eurozone into recession this year.

    Every week that passes, governments everywhere will be pulling in more resources to fight the epidemic. That could eventually include taking away from other social services to boost the medical frontline. Those governments that are not broadly supported could be pushed from power by angry mobs.

    We are at the very early stages of this scourge. Even then, we are forced to think the unthinkable – whether this be summarily executing infected people or social institutions crumbling under the weight of an unimaginable plague.



    any government when faced with an outbreak of this scale will need to take draconian measures

    if there's an outbreak in the US the federal gov't will use the military

    quarantines will be enforced by threat of violence / use of force

    ganyan talaga

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    #2054
    Quote Originally Posted by Wh1stl3r View Post
    I do wish some of the doctors here would comment on the links I posted a while back re: cytokine storms.
    Not a doctor, sir, but I found this on twitter FWIW --


    "A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure," "


    Feb 16
    Replying to
    *livecrisisnews


    "One of the ways coronaviruses cripple the immune system is via an HIV-like attachment to white blood cells, which triggers a 'cytokine storm' in which an uncontrolled release of inflammatory 'cytokines' target various organs, often leading to failure and in many cases death. (3")

    Link:
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    #2055
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    That, or somebody who's not playing with a full deck, sir.
    probably 52 cards, all "joker".

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    #2056
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    only an evil person with questionable motives, would wish covid-19 excitement on our shores.

    mask?
    we wear it only because of the dusty construction projects at the workplace.
    Regarding masks, a scientist interviewed on TV said something to the effect that he'd rather "be accused of over-reacting (to the situation) than be accused of under-reacting."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    probably 52 cards, all "joker".
    A mad, evil person -- always a deadly combo.

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    #2057
    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlee View Post
    Not a doctor, sir, but I found this on twitter FWIW --


    "A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure," "


    Feb 16
    Replying to
    *livecrisisnews


    "One of the ways coronaviruses cripple the immune system is via an HIV-like attachment to white blood cells, which triggers a 'cytokine storm' in which an uncontrolled release of inflammatory 'cytokines' target various organs, often leading to failure and in many cases death. (3")

    Link:
    Twitter
    one event.
    one report, written by a scientist.
    the other, by a journalist.
    either may have different impact on the reader.

    the same proceedings may be written as a matter-of-fact, and also with an "end of the world" slant.

    my advice is, "relax and don't emulate pan".

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    #2058
    ganito yun

    if a virus kills healthy adults in their prime then it's due to cytokine storm (immune overreaction)

    read about spanish flu





    older adults had partial protection due to exposure to a previous epidemic called Russian flu

    young adults weren't around yet during Russian flu so wala memory ang immune system
    Last edited by uls; February 18th, 2020 at 11:48 AM.

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    #2059
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    kagalingan is pro-china.
    wuhan coronavirus is chinese (daw!).
    he likes it.
    That is so true.

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    #2060
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ganito yun

    if a virus kills healthy adults in their prime then it's due to cytokine storm (immune overreaction)

    read about spanish flu





    older adults had partial protection due to exposure to a previous epidemic called Russian flu

    young adults weren't around yet during Russian flu so wala memory ang immune system
    that sounds logical.
    but it would have to take considerable funding, to verify.

    'tis the same with smallpox.
    previous cowpox infection prevents smallpox infection.
    it's what jenner did.
    Last edited by dr. d; February 18th, 2020 at 11:57 AM.

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