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    #181
    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Then 1983 came and CB had to declare that we don't have any money to pay our debts.

    Damn Marcos Vision is one of a kind indeed.

    Bigyan ng jacket!
    Gee what do you think happened on a macro-economic level that supersedes his graft and pilferage? Halatang di nagbabasa. We always had been an oil importer. Imagine how much money will the impact be if your gas shot from Php54 today to Php127. Tingin mo bansa natin di maguutang din ngayon? Tataas lang nga ng tatlong piso nagwewelga na kayo.

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    #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Thank God that guy is dead, otherwise the peso may have ended up like this..

    How will you ever know, sir?

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    #183
    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    Huwhaaaaat???! Are you serious?

    Key here is non existent ang law dati. Pinatay ng police ngayon at nahuli ang tao na walang ginagawa, tanggal sa trabaho at may kaso. Dati damputin ang tao na walang ginagawa, ok lang nakangti pa police. All you can do is turn around.

    Come on, walang pinagbago? Damn dude.
    Archie. I am not kidding. Today.. we do have laws. Thankfully we have. But that does not mean that off-the-books practices were not practiced: extra-judicial killings, torture, disappearances, etc. Remember how the news showed a few months back of an uncovered PNP "room" wherein these practices were undertaken?

    I am realist naman. Sure, we have laws. But slow justice is no justice. How many people do you think are murdered.. victim and witness alike leaving not much trace to follow? Many. It occurs around the country with impunity especially on our provincial level.

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    #184
    Vision ni macoy maging part ng Guinness Book of World Records.

    Largest Loot in History in the year 1986



    Jacket mga kapatid!

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    #185
    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Archie. I am not kidding. Today.. we do have laws. Thankfully we have. But that does not mean that off-the-books practices were not practiced: extra-judicial killings, torture, disappearances, etc. Remember how the news showed a few months back of an uncovered PNP "room" wherein these practices were undertaken?

    I am realist naman. Sure, we have laws. But slow justice is no justice. How many people do you think are murdered.. victim and witness alike leaving not much trace to follow? Many. It occurs around the country with impunity especially on our provincial level.
    I understand your point but saying it's the same as Marcos era is absurd.

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    #186
    Quote Originally Posted by jhnkvn View Post
    Gee what do you think happened on a macro-economic level that supersedes his graft and pilferage? Halatang di nagbabasa. We always had been an oil importer. Imagine how much money will the impact be if your gas shot from Php54 today to Php127. Tingin mo bansa natin di maguutang din ngayon? Tataas lang nga ng tatlong piso nagwewelga na kayo.
    Stick ka sa historical facts ha, yung may kinalaman sa thread na to.

    The IMF said the Central Bank had overstated its reserves by $264 million in 1981, $823 million in 1982, and $1.2 billion in 1983. Gross reserves had fallen $1.4 billion between June and December 1983. This means the CB now had no usable reserves. It could no longer pay its foreign debt. Bobby Ongpin reported an estimated $2 billion had flown the country in 1984 and $1 billion the year before.
    Wala akong pakialam sa mga "ifs" mo.

    Mag welga na kami pag tumaas ng tatlong piso ang gasolina... baliw ka nga no, tingin mo sa amin dito, namamasada ng jeep.

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    #187
    Well massa are indeed ignorant, can't blame them if they pick makoy.
    I like this part. But who joined the EDSA1?

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    #188
    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    I like this part. But who joined the EDSA1?
    Of course almost everyone.

    But that post refers today though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [archie] View Post
    As I've said marami wrong doings presidents or even politicians. Still can't compare for the regime of a single dictator. He had the advantage of continuing the progress but no, he continued to build and build for the sake of asking more debt.
    We already tackled the fact that debt is not a good and bad always scenario. Why do you think the international community were giving us cash? Truth is there was rapid industrialization was happening all around.

    Again, let's take China. In 1958 to 1961, Mao Zedong launched an socioeconomic campaign called the "Great Leap Forward" with the hopes of transforming the farmers into an industrial powerhouse. This campaign was often cited for human rights violations on a scale of millions with the famine claiming a toll of 18-45 million. Similarly in real GDP %, it was a whopping -27% and -5%. Imagine your GDP chopped off by a third.

    But the years afterwards as China instituted reforms that once weak economy transformed into a global powerhouse. Now that is with vision. Look at Mao Zedong.. his critics view him as the principle person who initiated mass genocide, nationwide human rights abuses, forced labor, etc. but what do the younger generation view him? They highly regard him as one of the most important individuals in Chinese history and crediting him in building China into a superpower to be reckoned with.

    Marcos.. well.. we can say he mismanaged, people disliked him, and now he's viewed as somebody equal to Hitler probably. But what if he succeeds? History is on your side.. no doubt about that because what's done is done. We can judge because we already seen the grass, but what if the grass is greener on the other side?

    If you want to bet on it, go to China. Ask people around what they view Mao Zedong as.. and I'll bet a million pesos that he's more revered than hated. Funny as it is, atrocities are forgiven when the good justifies the bad. That's how ironic mankind is. But if growth translates into food on the table.. hell yeah.. who cares.

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    #190
    Di na yata kayo kumain, mga sirs.

    Patalastas muna.

    In a rural elementary school.

    Guro: Ano ang pangalan ni Macoy?
    Pupil: Ferdinand Marcos po

    Guro: Si Ninoy, ano ang pangalan?
    Pupil: Ewan ko po

    Guro: Si Cory, ano ang pangalan?
    Pupil: Di ko alam po

    Guro: Ikaw anong pangalan mo?
    Pupil: Ferdinand po

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