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    THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE IDOLIZING MARCOS



    Early this month, I asked my fourth year students to create artistic posters of post-war/contemporary Filipinos who they consider as their heroes. This is part of our observance of National History Month last August. Initially, I am pleased with their outputs because most of it are well made and depicts popular personalities today like CNN Hero Efren Penaflorida, former DILG Secretary Jesse Robredo, former Senator Benigno Aquino Jr. and former President Corazon Aquino. Some even fielded lesser known names in the field of social change like Gawad Kalinga’s Tony Meloto, child wonder Kesz Valdez, RockEd founder Gang Badoy, and even rapper Francis Magalona.

    However, I was struck speechless by what one student chose as his hero: former President and Dictator Ferdinand E. Marcos.

    When asked, the child—a chubby, 16 year old teenager—reasoned that he considers Marcos a hero because there was peace and order, and that people were disciplined and patriotic during his term. I wanted to correct his choice of hero but at the same time I don’t want to dictate or spoon feed him on what should be a hero. Hence, I accepted his work, but I neither gave him a very good score nor did I select his work for the gallery of heroes we organized at the school campus.

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    The Social Scientist: THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE IDOLIZING MARCOS
    The Social Scientist: THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW BEFORE IDOLIZING MARCOS

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    Marcos... was a dictator?





    It's weird how the new generation seems to revel in their ignorance of history. Or seem to conveniently forget that the Cojuangco connection that gives them leverage to demonize the Aquinos also applies to Marcos, as Danding was one of his biggest cronies.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    marcos was brilliant. but he used that brilliance to forward his own interests.
    for a time, many thought he was going to turn the country around, because he instilled discipline (fear?).. until...
    ah well, it's good he ain't here anymore.. otherwise we might not be enjoying this forum..

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    Sooner or later, even the presidency of Pandak will be remembered as the "good ole days". Even the Japanese are believed to be the "good guys", forgetting the attrocities they did during WW2. Marcos was the only presidency that brought the economy to bankruptcy. The Philippines had to borrow from the WB and IMF during his term...

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    Antayin natin si nognog and family. Sigurado mas mamahalin ng tao iyu. Kesa kay makoy, erap at pandak.

    Hahahhaha.

    Buhay na namna goodvibes sa makati pagnagkataon.

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    I can say i've lived in the Marcos era from the time he became president in 1965 until he was booted out of Malacanang in 1986. Until this date, he is the most debated president this country ever had not because there are loyalist nor anti but simply because his longest term as being a leader brought some good & bad things during his administration. What ever one would be his verdict to Marcos, the only thing i can say is...brain wise,his the most brilliant president this country has ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macsd View Post
    I can say i've lived in the Marcos era from the time he became president in 1965 until he was booted out of Malacanang in 1986. Until this date, he is the most debated president this country ever had not because there are loyalist nor anti but simply because his longest term as being a leader brought some good & bad things during his administration. What ever one would be his verdict to Marcos, the only thing i can say is...brain wise,his the most brilliant president this country has ever had.
    We're on the same page sir

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    All humans are dichotomous, character-wise. There are always two sides of it.
    On brilliance of the mind alone, Marcos is magnificent.
    Its another thing on integrity. Perhaps, one of the best ever telling a lie straightforward without beating an eyelash.

    As president, he has to be judged on his impact to the vast majority of this countrymen. To me, he is a major failure. The diaspora of Filipinos eager to get out of this forsaken nation of ours and not get back, started during his watch.

    The sense of nationhood or the lack of it, is the root cause of our many problems.

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    compared to Pnoy.. eh kay FM na ako..

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    Sayang at nakatakas sa Hawaii. Kung inabot sana sa Malacaņang sila noong People Power sana nabawasan na ang alagad ni diyablo sa mundo.

    Noong nakatakas si Makoy nagsitago na rin loyalists niya dahil wala na military sa likod nila. Kung nakipag head to head sana sila sa mga galit kay Marcos nagkaalaman na sana.

    Sent from the Twilight Zone...
    Last edited by e2romo; May 25th, 2014 at 11:54 AM.

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    ^ Mabuti at umalis, we may have a different Philippines today.

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    SC backs Sandigan in throwing out evidence vs Marcoses
    SC backs Sandigan in throwing out evidence vs Marcoses | Inquirer News


    Ang tindi talaga ng galamay ni Apo, hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused shoes View Post
    ^ Sir, 2014-1986 = 28 years

    Bakit 45:1 pa rin?
    The dollar went up as high as 60:1 during erap's time. But it went as low as 38 +:1 last year. Buti pa ngayon ganun kaysa yung panahon Marcos. Sobrang restricted ang dollar, controlled by his cronies.

    Marcos government of Philippines, known for its corruption, always aimed at retaining the foreign exchange earnings from traditional exporters. From 1970 to 1984, the Philippines had an intermittent history of multiple rate structure with different rates to foreign exchange transactions for exports, imports and foreign debts, on the basis of a daily "Guided Rate". From 1970 till 1973, traditional exporters were required to surrender 80% of the foreign exchange earning at a "Official Rate" fixed at 3.9, which is more disadvantageous to exporters
    If Marcos were still on control, Baka tulad tayo ngayon sa Zimbabwe or any failed African state...

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    They're trying to project that he is a great leader coz during his time ,alot of structure were built,but what they not know is they're all soft loan from other countries,what worse is half of it goes to the pocket

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    ^ and a lot of those loans didn't see the light of day. that's the reason why the central bank of the philippines went bankrupt and eventually became the bangko sentral ng pilipinas. marcos' cronies unmercifully ransacked the central bank of the philippines w/ behest loans w/c lined their pockets and financed their ostentatious lifestyle to no end in the guise of proposed industrial and infra projects here and abroad

    speaking of cronies, i hate it when guys like danding cojuangco, roberto benedicto, kokoy romualdez, lucio tan, et al are hailed as excellent businessmen when they made their fortunes in collusion w/ marcos via crony capitalism
    Last edited by baludoy; May 26th, 2014 at 11:35 AM.

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    Where were those so-called infrastructure project money really going???


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    ^
    In 1945, Japan was ruined. 20 years later, they hosted the Olympics in 1964.
    In 1953, Korea is a total s h i t. After 28 years, they bid for the Olympics and hosted it in 1988.

    Marcos era ended 28 years ago with 5 presidents after him but the Philippines can barely host a SEA Games.

    Pnoy: 1
    Pandak: 1 1/2
    Erap: 1/2
    Tabako: 1
    Cory:1

    Kasalanan pa rin siguro ni Makoy yan.
    Last edited by confused shoes; May 26th, 2014 at 08:55 PM.

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    Kups din yang si Quezon.


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    Majority of both Korea and Japan population are very patriotic. Mahal nila bansa nila and they sacrifice to ensure their country becomes strong and successful. Sa atin baliktad, majority of pinoys focus on what their country can do for them and not what they can do for their country.

    Kita natin noong nuclear leak because of the tsunami in Japan, Japanese were volunteering to work in plugging the radiation leak. Knowing full well that they will die after this. They said they are doing this for the future of their generation.

    Sent from the Twilight Zone...

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