2022 Presidential Elections

[dreamur]

Hehe...nice try kags. Pero I will give the benefit of the doubt. Huwag mo kasing gamitin na evidence ung galinf sa isang lawyer na suspended foe malpractice.

[travajante]

Totally agree uls. That is what business is about - to generate profit. But are you not surpised for a "small" company to have 17000% sales to capital ratio and rewarding its executives with high end properties and supwr cars?

Guess that's ok'er than having the conyos gain? I don't buy that...& don't really care who brews what, who gets what....
Betterment of life quality for every Juan must matter more....and we're far worse now than 2016.

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[uls]

Totally agree uls. That is what business is about - to generate profit. But are you not surpised for a "small" company to have 17000% sales to capital ratio and rewarding its executives with high end properties and supwr cars?

yes i understand your point

wala capital ung company and it's not even a manufacturer of PPE

it's basically a trading company (a middleman)

they had to order PPE from manufacturers in china

(btw, i barely followed the senate hearing so i'm posting from what i know how things work)

they needed cash to pay manufacturers but they barely had money so somebody with deep pockets had to come up with the money

somebody did and the items arrived in PH

kahit maliit capital ng pharmally, meron nag abono para sa kanila

[dreamur]

yes i understand your point

wala capital ung company and it's not even a manufacturer of PPE

it's basically a trading company (a middleman)

they had to order PPE from manufacturers in china

(btw, i barely followed the senate hearing so i'm posting from what i know how things work)

they needed cash to pay manufacturers but they barely had money so somebody with deep pockets had to come up with the money

somebody did and the items arrived in PH

kahit maliit capital ng pharmally, meron nag abono para sa kanila

Right. But here's the catch - the deep pockets belong to Michael Yang who happens to be connected to Malacanang Palace and shady chinese companies.

So how much mark up can one trader afford to stay competitive with the other bidders? I think not much especially if you are just the middle person. How a company registered only in Sept 2019 can generate bonuses for its executives in millions of pesos is beyond me.

[jansky]

Help me to decide

a running candidate backed by oligarchs vs a running candidate backed by cronies

[uls]

Right. But here's the catch - the deep pockets belong to Michael Yang who happens to be connected to Malacanang Palace and shady chinese companies.

So how much mark up can one trader afford to stay competitive with the other bidders? I think not much especially if you are just the middle person. How a company registered only in Sept 2019 can generate bonuses for its executives in millions of pesos is beyond me.

ok so that's how they were able to secure supplies of PPE during a time when PPE was in great demand globally

i mean coz chinaman si Michael Yang and he knows people

re: bonuses to execs

well it's not hard to figure how they afforded it -- they got a supply contract worth billions

when they got paid by the gov't, kinuha ni Yang ang abono niya (with profit of course)

and there was more than enough left for the executives

[dreamur]

Independent accountant's assessment of the "audited" financial statements of Pharmally.

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[uls]

Independent accountant's assessment of the "audited" financial statements of Pharmally.

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ok i watched half the video

hanggang dun sa part na may 7.2 billion na importation

to me it's clear that company was set up during the du30 admin to be a gov't supplier

alam mo ung meron ka ine-expect na malaking pera dadating and it will be sent to you via bank transfer pero wala ka bank account so you open a bank account with only 5000

that's pharmally

[ale828]

I think efficiency and corruption is an oxymoron.

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How about Makati during the reigns of Binay? Hindi ba efficient service niya?

[Little Missy]

Yes, first step to eliminate corruption. But no politicians will ever do that because for one it limits their voting base to law abiding tax paying people and their money(Corruption) will have little effect on them. The other do good politicians are afraid to remove the basic civil right of people.

Corruption will never end as long as money makes the world go round.
Its been around since Jesus was alive. 2000+ years have we found a way to eliminate corruption?
Best way is to limit it, make sure that even if they are corrupt, the service they provide is worth the amount they are stealing.

First step to eliminate corruption is to suppress voting rights of the poor? Wow. [emoji15]

Well democratic country tayo and the sovereignty resides in the people so dun pa lang [emoji777] na. Pag ganyan less than 10% lang ang boboto? Magkakaroon talaga ng rich vs poor war niyan.

Dito lang naman normalized ang corruption and vote buying. It's a cultural thing kasi nga ginawang acceptable. Overall sa ibang bansa di naman ganyan.

Also, yung kakayanan ng tao bumuto nang tama wala naman sa socio economic standing niya.

Parang drug war yung ganyan concept. Pinapatay yung mga small time pushers pero yung mga drug lords na nagpapasok ng drugs dito walang nahuli. I suppress ang pagboto pero yung corrupt official pabayaan, may nagawa naman.


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[Little Missy]

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[glenn_duke]

^^^^
Panahon pa ng kastila may corruption na, not unless sinungaling si Rizal.

Eto parang 3 shots espresso epekto nito. He he he

Corruption in past administrations – Daily Tribune

[dreamur]

ok i watched half the video

hanggang dun sa part na may 7.2 billion na importation

to me it's clear that company was set up during the du30 admin to be a gov't supplier

alam mo ung meron ka ine-expect na malaking pera dadating and it will be sent to you via bank transfer pero wala ka bank account so you open a bank account with only 5000

that's pharmally

So the next question is - why did digong blow his top over the Pharmally investigation?

[dreamur]

^^^^
Panahon pa ng kastila may corruption na, not unless sinungaling si Rizal.

May pagasa pa glenn. Vote wisely.

[bloowolf]

^^^everyone knows corruption is wrong. So why is it accepted?


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[c_cube]

Yun mga nagsasabi na normal na sa gobyerno yun pagnanakaw at okay lang at tanggapin nalang, eh di magnakaw na din kayo. Turo niyo sa mga anak niyo kung paano magnakaw kahit wala sila sa mundo ng politika.

Walang gray area, na dapat sa gobyerno lang okay magnakaw

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[ale828]

First step to eliminate corruption is to suppress voting rights of the poor? Wow. [emoji15]

Well democratic country tayo and the sovereignty resides in the people so dun pa lang [emoji777] na. Pag ganyan less than 10% lang ang boboto? Magkakaroon talaga ng rich vs poor war niyan.

Dito lang naman normalized ang corruption and vote buying. It's a cultural thing kasi nga ginawang acceptable. Overall sa ibang bansa di naman ganyan.

Also, yung kakayanan ng tao bumuto nang tama wala naman sa socio economic standing niya.

Parang drug war yung ganyan concept. Pinapatay yung mga small time pushers pero yung mga drug lords na nagpapasok ng drugs dito walang nahuli. I suppress ang pagboto pero yung corrupt official pabayaan, may nagawa naman.


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I gave you an opinion on how to stop corruption during election. Read it again. I never said it would be accepted by everyone.

What way do you suggest to stop corruption during elections?

You do know that all the publicity that candidates are getting in the traditional media, SOCMED, Charity works, visitation during festivals should never be accepted and can be construed as a form of early campaigning as such a corruption on the electoral process. But everyone is doing it as long as you don't say Vote for me(candidate).

Do you believe countries like the US don't have corruption? maybe a lot less but not perfect.

^^^everyone knows corruption is wrong. So why is it accepted?
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Not accepted but is always the elephant in the room when politicians are around.
Trying to pull the veil on the views of people who think their party or candidate is absolved from doing corrupt practices.
Whether it be LP, Lakas-CMD, Nationalista, etc.

[dreamur]

To be fair, even Leni accepted that corruption is part of politics and cannot be totally eradicated.

Robredo appeals to voters on vote-buying: ‘Accept the money, but vote by conscience’ – Manila Bulletin

[Little Missy]

I gave you an opinion on how to stop corruption during election. Read it again. I never said it would be accepted by everyone.

What way do you suggest to stop corruption during elections?

You do know that all the publicity that candidates are getting in the traditional media, SOCMED, Charity works, visitation during festivals should never be accepted and can be construed as a form of early campaigning as such a corruption on the electoral process. But everyone is doing it as long as you don't say Vote for me(candidate).

Do you believe countries like the US don't have corruption? maybe a lot less but not perfect.

About premature campaigning, technically it is legal.

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Hindi lahat ng mahihirap bobo at nabibili at hindi lahat ng edukado pumipili ng tama. That's generalization, elitist and divisive.

Instead of blaming the poor people for corruption and making them the enemy, maybe direct the hate to the true perpetrators instead of normalizing their kind.

Instead of suppressing votes maybe educate voters.




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[ale828]

About premature campaigning, technically it is legal.

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Hindi lahat ng mahihirap bobo at nabibili at hindi lahat ng edukado pumipili ng tama. That's generalization, elitist and divisive.

Instead of blaming the poor people for corruption and making them the enemy, maybe direct the hate to the true perpetrators instead of normalizing their kind.

Instead of suppressing votes maybe educate voters.




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like all things, you can get away with a technicality. That is what most candidates do to get ahead.
But if you strictly follow the rules it shouldn't be.

I never said the people or voters to blame or that poor people are bobo and that educated people are right. You assume that on my comment on how to stop vote buying. I never said it was the an ideal way to stop vote buying.
Unless you can tell me one way that is better?
Education about vote buying is a already being done since 1992 from my recollection, maybe even during the previous elections its also being done. But until this day it is still present and candidates still do it.
Read the news regarding vote buying, nagulat ako that its in the news.
Baka one of you here is a spy? hehehe