2022 Presidential Elections

**uls** · October 29th, 2021 11:39 AM

it has always been that way

like LP made Noynoy run after Cory died simply coz he's the son (Cory's death boosted the Aquino brand)

Mar Roxas was supposed to be LP's presidential candidate pero they talked him out of it

they made Roxas run for VP nalang coz the Aquino surname offers higher chance of winning

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like Erap (after being deposed) convinced his good friend FPJ to run for president coz if FPJ wins parang bumalik narin siya sa kapangyarihan

**Yatta** · October 29th, 2021 01:00 PM

**dreamur** · October 29th, 2021 01:53 PM

Kailan kaya i-release for public viewing si duterte...este, ung SALN niya.

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**glenn_duke** · October 29th, 2021 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by travajante

Had those 2decades of Marcos rule been like Sg's LKY, corruption can't be as bad the disease we see today.
Confused why we'd even entertain putting back someone who was party to the root of what everyone is complaining about here.
2decades of bad foundation that the following 3decades can't undo just shows how deep & grown the ills have gone. It definitely must not justify amnesty & amnesia.
We're now presented w/ choices of not just lesser evils & pure evil, but there's an obvious GOOD standing out....Not giving her the doubt benefit for the reason all the others have failed just shows how cynical, numb or gullible we've become as a populace.
Not discounting anyone's views nor sentiments here, but between hope & hopelessness, I'd choose the former.....it might be the strategy left to somehow keep afloat this sinking nation.
We gave the anti-establishment bisdaque 6years of more to undo...we're in a bigger mess, much deeper crap. Poor next president...let the good one try...
Let Leni Lead!!!

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Para kang c noynoy patapos na term, si pandak parin sinisisi sa pagiging inutil niya.

Ang totoo 3 dekadang pumalpak mga dilawan. Ni hindi ninyo maamin na degradation ng public education nangyari sa watch ng mga dilawan. Tapos magtataka kayo bakit bobo karamihan ng mga botante.

I will vote for isko, but i wish bbm wins, para maturuan lang ng lesson yung mga original revisionist.

**Yatta** · October 29th, 2021 04:17 PM

Grabe blindsided lahat! We did not see that coming!

**Flipo** · October 29th, 2021 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Para kang c noynoy patapos na term, si pandak parin sinisisi sa pagiging inutil niya.

Ang totoo 3 dekadang pumalpak mga dilawan. Ni hindi ninyo maamin na degradation ng public education nangyari sa watch ng mga dilawan. Tapos magtataka kayo bakit bobo karamihan ng mga botante.

I will vote for isko, but i wish bbm wins, para maturuan lang ng lesson yung mga original revisionist.

Numbers doesn't lie.

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**bugsmobile** · October 29th, 2021 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Yatta

Grabe blindsided lahat! We did not see that coming!

Huwat?! Sabi nga ng isa dito, Nagulat ako! Totally unexpected!

**glenn_duke** · October 29th, 2021 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Flipo

Numbers doesn't lie.

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Numbers dont lie nga, 70% ng voters ninyo mga mahihirap. Mga nakinabang sa pinagmamalaki ninyong gdp mga dilawan. Asan yung 6% gdp mo nung 2016 at 2019. Parang western weather forecast, "its 95 but feels like 110 " dito , its 6 but feels like 0.

Practice na kayo kumanta ng "bagong lipunan" malapit na.

**travajante** · October 29th, 2021 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Para kang c noynoy patapos na term, si pandak parin sinisisi sa pagiging inutil niya.

Flattered, thanks, but I'm not worthy to even tie his laces.

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

I will vote for isko, but i wish bbm wins, para maturuan lang ng lesson yung mga original revisionist.

Nothing against you nor your beliefs. This shouldn't be about parties nor classes, but for love of country, good sir. The masses are bearing the brunt of misguidance & everything fake. It's more for them than you & me.

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**jut703** · October 29th, 2021 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by ChoyJo

Uls hindi ka nag-iisa dito.. I got your point.. Hindi ka nag-iisa.. Tama lahat ng sinasabi mo.. idagdag mo pa mga Ghost Project at mga Tao sa gobyerno-Idagdag mo na din mga Security Guard at mga Janitor-- Mga natututo na din manghingi sa mga Negosyante..Bakit? Kasi nakikita din nila sa mga nasa taas nila..

*Dreamur, Little Missy and Others with same belief

Saludo ako dahil may Faith pa kayo.. Sana lang talaga totoong mangyari mga sinasabi nyo.. Isa ako sa matutuwa kapag nangyari mga sinasabi nyo.. But as of the moment--Same sentiments ako kay uls..

*Topic

Still Undecided who to vote(President).. Please lang huwag lang kayo mag-away dito and make it a Healthy Discussion para makatulong sa mga kagaya kong Undecided pa..

Bro if you have idle time, try listening to this podcast. It tackles the reality of corruption that you speak of, but also presente an alternative of how to deal with it.

Through The Lens of Leni Robredo: Wife, Mother, Public Servant, Superwoman - Wake Up With Jim & Saab | Podcast on Spotify

Spoiler: no one man/woman will stop corruption. Rather, getting the youth to believe that there is an alternative, even just a few % less corrupt, will eventually lead to decades of marginal progress towards a Philippines we can be proud of.

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**dr. d** · October 29th, 2021 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Yatta

Grabe blindsided lahat! We did not see that coming!

i'm not surprised.

**bloowolf** · October 29th, 2021 09:32 PM

The lies keep on coming.

EXCLUSIVE: Did Bongbong Marcos lie about Oxford, Wharton?

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**Flipo** · October 29th, 2021 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by uls

it doesn't matter if she "has no track record"

what matters is her popularity

THEY made leni run coz she's the only candidate who is popular enough to drive the davao group out of power

that's the goal (and of course to return power to imperial manila)

it's like the US democrats chose an old man who already has dementia to run for president coz he's the only one popular enough to beat Trump so the democrats can return to power

it's not about the candidate

it's about the people who will benefit when the candidate wins

**glenn_duke** · October 29th, 2021 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Flipo

Si bbm daw 84 authored, 21 co-authored bills.

**bloowolf** · October 29th, 2021 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Si bbm daw 84 authored, 21 co-authored bills.

Usually, when one uses the word “daw”, it is to pass off the subject as credible but at the same time deflect the blame from one’s self.

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**glenn_duke** · October 30th, 2021 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

Usually, when one uses the word “daw”, it is to pass off the subject as credible but at the same time deflect the blame from one’s self.

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Huwag mo nang gawing complicated ang "daw" ay short for "sabi nila" , "ayon sa kanila," "sabi ng iba"

**bloowolf** · October 30th, 2021 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Huwag mo nang gawing complicated ang "daw" ay short for "sabi nila" , "ayon sa kanila," "sabi ng iba"

Ang ibig ko sabihin, post links. Mas credible kung may makikita kami. Madali sabihin yung “daw”, “sabi nila”… pero hearsay yun. Mas gusto namin yung may nababasa o nakikita kami.

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**Flipo** · October 30th, 2021 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by glenn_duke

Si bbm daw 84 authored, 21 co-authored bills.

Lies, lies, and more lies
By: Solita Collas-Monsod - *inquirerdotnet
Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:06 AM October 30, 2021

Like father, like son.

President Ferdinand Marcos lied about the medals he received during World War II. Government brochures during his presidency claimed that he was the country’s most decorated soldier, a claim echoed by his wife, Imelda. He stood by that lie all through his life. And that lie jumpstarted his political career; up to his presidency and beyond, he was mouthing it.

How do we know it is a lie? I will not cite the National Historical Commission of the Philippines (NHCP) research on the matter, nor will I cite the research of army veteran Boni Gillego, or historian Ricardo Jose on the matter. They all said that his claims were without basis. Why will I not use them? Because, unfortunately, they are Filipinos and can be painted by the trolls as biased or anti-Marcos.

I will cite, though, a December 1983 Washington Post report by John Sharkey, assistant foreign editor, which detailed the findings “of an 18-month effort to verify Marcos’ claims to high American decorations.” The effort was thorough—it included a search of US military archives, a detailed examination of official military histories, personal memoirs and portions of Marcos’ personal file at the US military records center in St. Louis, and conversations with Philippine and American survivors of the war. His conclusion: It “raises serious doubts about whether he actually was awarded them.”

This was not the only lie Ferdinand Marcos fed to the Filipino people, of course. It was followed by many more. But this is what gave him his start.

And now his son has lied about his education at Oxford University. He lied about it until he was caught out in 2015 by Rappler’s Marites Vitug. How do we know he lied about it? Well, his CV in the Senate of the Philippines (he was a senator from 2010-2016) shows that he earned a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science, Philosophy, and Economics. On the other hand, Vitug showed an email from Clare Woodcock, spokesperson for Oxford University, who wrote: “We can confirm that a Ferdinand Marcos matriculated at the University of Oxford in 1975 to read for a BA in Philosophy, Philosophy, and Economics. According to our records, he did not complete his degree, but was awarded a Special Diploma in Social Studies in 1978.”

And what is a Special Diploma? Apparently, Oxford no longer offers it, but it has been described thusly: “Anyone who only has a diploma did not complete the 3-year degree course, did not take the exams, and therefore has not been conferred a BA.” In other words, it is a consuelo de bobo for dropouts.

Bongbong surely knew the score, but he lied again about it, as recounted by Vitug. First, he said that it was a diploma in political science; then he told reporters in 2015: “I got a diploma … What do you get when you graduate? A diploma!”

A barefaced lie.

He also lied about his Wharton stay. His Senate CV states that he has a master’s degree from Wharton. No such thing.

Having been shown up, he still apparently cannot resist the urge to lie. His present website still insists: “He completed his undergraduate studies at Oxford University and graduated with a Special Diploma in Social Studies.” Sigh. He DID NOT GRADUATE. See above.

But Bongbong follows in his father’s footsteps not only in lying, but in other matters as well. Justice Tony Carpio’s column this week cites Bongbong’s having been convicted of failing to file income tax returns and failing to pay taxes from 1982 to 1985 both in the trial court and in the court of appeals (final and executory). What it did not say was that Bongbong Marcos at the time was vice governor and then governor of Ilocos Norte.

He was holding high public office when he failed to declare and pay his taxes. If it was for only a year, perhaps it could be excused. But four years?

Where are his principles? His values? Lying to the Filipino people. Cheating them. Like his father did—his father, whom he has tried his best to distance from while at the same time claiming that his father did good. If he was old enough to be governor, he certainly was old enough to know what his parents were doing (stealing the country blind, among others).

And this man is running for president? Do we really want another Marcos? Filipinos, wake up!

Lies, lies, and more lies | Inquirer Opinion

**Yatta** · October 30th, 2021 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by bloowolf

Ang ibig ko sabihin, post links. Mas credible kung may makikita kami. Madali sabihin yung “daw”, “sabi nila”… pero hearsay yun. Mas gusto namin yung may nababasa o nakikita kami.

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**bugsmobile** · October 30th, 2021 02:19 PM

O yung mga hindi pa registered dyan….

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